Re: [PSES] Television Manufacturing Documentary From The Late 1950's - YouTube
Fascinating. Love the bow ties. My pop worked at a GE plant in those days that made magnetron assemblies. They were having high failure rates and he was assigned to investigate the problem. Turned out that one of the assembly ladies was having a tough time putting one of the capacitors on the boards because the leads were too short, so she yanked them out a bit to make it easier to solder it in. Mike Violette Washington Laboratories American Certification Body mi...@wll.com +1 240 401 1388 On Jun 12, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Paasche, Dieter wrote: Testing has changed over time,…. or not? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TF2DZ0E0Q4 Dieter - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] EN and ISO standards
Well... If you feel its justified, you could could use one of the hard-copy prints that youre allowed and print the document to an unlocked PDF file using CutePDF, PDFCreator or similar. These look like regular printers to your PC but generate and save a PDF file instead of sending the document to a physical printer. I cant be sure if the Estonian standards will be protected against this, but Ive used this method to produce unprotected PDF files from protected PDFs successfully in the past. As long as the document allows printing, its always worked for me. Id be interested to know if this works. You could at least make English language only documents from the dual Estonian/English documents by only printing the English pages. Just a thought, Tony Sent:Thursday, June 12, 2014 at 5:52 PM From:Nyffenegger, Dave dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com To:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject:Re: [PSES] EN and ISO standards Following up on this topic, anyone know where soft copy PDFs of the standards can be bought which are not locked to a single PC forever? At the rate we change PCs around here buying a soft copy locked to a PC isnt even worth it. thanks -Dave From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:41 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN and ISO standards Nice tip Mike, thank you. e.g. EVS-EN ISO/IEC 17065:2012 from Estonia in Estonian English= 22 EUR (18GBP). There are some licensing restrictions, i.e. unlimited viewing on a single PC with a maximum of 2 hard copy prints, but you can buy additional user licenses, e.g 5 user licenses are just 43 EUR (35 GBP), thats about 7 GBP a copy! From BSI in the UK,BSEN ISO/IEC17065:2012 costs 168 GBP for non-members and84 GBP for members, with membership starting at 184 GBP for organisations of between 1 and 5 employees. Interestingly, the English only languageversion from Estonia is 99 EUR (81 GBP), which is less than the BSI members price. But... it is said thatif a deal seems too good to be true, then it IS too good to be true. Id be interested to know if/what thecatch is here. Otherwise, I might just go into the standards brokering business! ;-) Thanks, Tony - Original Message - From: Mike Sherman - Original Message - Sent: 05/15/14 10:25 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN and ISO standards Not aware of any price breaks through IEEE. Best pricing Ive found is through Estonia: http://www.evs.ee/shop Mike Sherman Graco Inc. From: Dave Nyffenegger dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:51:53 AM Subject: [PSES] EN and ISO standards Anyone know if we can get any breaks on purchasing EN or ISO standards through IEEE? -Dave David P. Nyffenegger, PMP, SM-IEEE Product Development Manager Bell and Howell - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to LT;emc-p...@ieee.orgGT; All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas LT;emcp...@radiusnorth.netGT; Mike Cantwell LT;mcantw...@ieee.orgGT; For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher LT;j.bac...@ieee.orgGT; David Heald LT;dhe...@gmail.comGT; - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org
Re: [PSES] EN and ISO standards
In message trinity-d5e76665-9edf-4bc7-b8c9-9eeaa4a16f0d-1402657846314@3capp-mailcom -lxa04, dated Fri, 13 Jun 2014, Anthony Thomson ton...@europe.com writes: Well... If you feel it's justified, you could could use one of the hard-copy prints that you're allowed and 'print' the document to an unlocked PDF file using CutePDF, PDFCreator or similar. These 'look' like regular printers to your PC but generate and save a PDF file instead of sending the document to a physical printer. It does work, but it's probably a copyright violation. Most of the law about intellectual property is nowhere near in tune with the 21st century, but of course the lawyers will fiercely resist any change. In many cases, people are practically forced into formally illegal acts in this context by over-stringent protection, such as having to buy a $100 document in order to copy a single diagram into an internal company report. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Quid faciamus nisi sit? John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Television Manufacturing Documentary From The Late 1950's - YouTube
In one of the scenes I saw an old RCA VTVM. This brought back very fond memories. A comment was made that the caps were tested to TWICE the rated voltage. Isn't that the purpose of a rating, to identify the maximum voltage and ensure that the working voltages are lower? What became of the old massive RCA plant in Camden N.J.? As an antique car collector, I loved seeing the old cars in the parking lot and in use by employees. Thanks for the post. Rick From: Mike Violette [mailto:mi...@acbcert.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 4:44 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Television Manufacturing Documentary From The Late 1950's - YouTube Fascinating. Love the bow ties. My pop worked at a GE plant in those days that made magnetron assemblies. They were having high failure rates and he was assigned to investigate the problem. Turned out that one of the assembly ladies was having a tough time putting one of the capacitors on the boards because the leads were too short, so she yanked them out a bit to make it easier to solder it in. Mike Violette Washington Laboratories American Certification Body mi...@wll.commailto:mi...@wll.com +1 240 401 1388 On Jun 12, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Paasche, Dieter wrote: Testing has changed over time, or not? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TF2DZ0E0Q4 Dieter - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Television Manufacturing Documentary From The Late 1950's - YouTube
Testing - Yes, it looked like they were testing it to death, leaving only the good ones to ship. Obviously, there were enough good ones to give RCA a good reputation. I almost expected quality engineers to be present when the consumer unboxed the set. Locations - I was surprised how many facilities were involved with design manufacturing. Tube testing - I liked the machine with cork bottle tops hitting the sides of tubes. I wonder if it was to test glass strength, or to check for microphonics (excessive microphonics.) Personal safety - I cringed when I saw the woman handling the open liquid nitrogen canister with her bare hands, or the assembly person picking up a CRT by its neck without gloves. My wife recognized the voice of the narrator (Henry 'Jam' Handy), and said must have done every documentary in that era. Pat On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Douglas Nix d...@ieee.org wrote: Interesting look back at 1950's manufacturing, especially from a Quality Assurance, Test and OHS perspective. No workers were using any kind of obvious PPE except a few on the soldering lines. No hearing protection, dust masks, safety glasses or other PPE that I could see. Ergonomics sucked in most cases. From a QA standpoint, it looked to me as if they were trying valiantly to test quality in, rather than build it in. The outdoor open-area-test site was pretty interesting too. These are normally inside inflatable structures now, so you can work in crappy weather as well as good. Cool in any case. Thanks for sharing this, Dieter! Doug On 12-Jun-14, at 15:19, Paasche, Dieter dieter.paas...@christiedigital.com wrote: Testing has changed over time,…. or not? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TF2DZ0E0Q4 Dieter - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to LT;emc-p...@ieee.orgGT; All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas LT;emcp...@radiusnorth.netGT; Mike Cantwell LT;mcantw...@ieee.orgGT; For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher LT;j.bac...@ieee.orgGT; David Heald LT;dhe...@gmail.comGT; - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Television Manufacturing Documentary From The Late 1950's - YouTube
I'm not sure I would state that the amount of testing seems outrageous. Many of today's similar products undergo extremely rigorous testing on the assembly line. A modern television will undergo extensive testing. The difference is that modern testing is automated. We have board of nails testers that can verify an entire circuit board quickly. Robotic test stations can check buttons and user interface functions. Cameras and sensors can verify the video and audio outputs. It's possible that modern testing is even more comprehensive. The difference is the automation allows it to be done much more quickly and effectively. We don't need armies of people on the line to run these checks. There is also more testing pushed down to the suppliers. We expect our power supply vendors to run extensive testing before they ship their products to our factories. We may run spot checks, but we expect component testing to be decentralized. Ted Eckert Compliance Engineer Microsoft Corporation ted.eck...@microsoft.com The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. Testing - Yes, it looked like they were testing it to death, leaving only the good ones to ship. Obviously, there were enough good ones to give RCA a good reputation. I almost expected quality engineers to be present when the consumer unboxed the set. Locations - I was surprised how many facilities were involved with design manufacturing. Tube testing - I liked the machine with cork bottle tops hitting the sides of tubes. I wonder if it was to test glass strength, or to check for microphonics (excessive microphonics.) Personal safety - I cringed when I saw the woman handling the open liquid nitrogen canister with her bare hands, or the assembly person picking up a CRT by its neck without gloves. My wife recognized the voice of the narrator (Henry 'Jam' Handy), and said must have done every documentary in that era. Pat On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Douglas Nix d...@ieee.org wrote: Interesting look back at 1950's manufacturing, especially from a Quality Assurance, Test and OHS perspective. No workers were using any kind of obvious PPE except a few on the soldering lines. No hearing protection, dust masks, safety glasses or other PPE that I could see. Ergonomics sucked in most cases. From a QA standpoint, it looked to me as if they were trying valiantly to test quality in, rather than build it in. The outdoor open-area-test site was pretty interesting too. These are normally inside inflatable structures now, so you can work in crappy weather as well as good. Cool in any case. Thanks for sharing this, Dieter! Doug On 12-Jun-14, at 15:19, Paasche, Dieter dieter.paas...@christiedigital.com wrote: Testing has changed over time,…. or not? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TF2DZ0E0Q4 Dieter - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to LT;emc-p...@ieee.orgGT; All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas LT;emcp...@radiusnorth.netGT; Mike Cantwell LT;mcantw...@ieee.orgGT; For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher LT;j.bac...@ieee.orgGT; David Heald LT;dhe...@gmail.comGT; - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All
[PSES] RE2: [PSES] Television Manufacturing Documentary From The Late 1950's - YouTube
PSNet'ers, I enjoyed this video very much. Having worked at Tektronix in the business since about that time as depicted in the video it all looked like what we did day by day to get a quality product out. I am pleased to see the use of Tek scopes prominently displayed since I developed CRT displays for a number of products during that time - before I got involved in the safety regulatory activities. Ted is correct, much of the testing has been automated but, in my opinioin, is more rigorous today; component testing has also been pushed back on the supplier. All of this improves the reliability of the equipment. Thanx for this blast from the past. :) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety Engineer PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 fone/fax p.perk...@ieee.org -Original Message- From: Ted Eckert [mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 8:32 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Television Manufacturing Documentary From The Late 1950's - YouTube I'm not sure I would state that the amount of testing seems outrageous. Many of today's similar products undergo extremely rigorous testing on the assembly line. A modern television will undergo extensive testing. The difference is that modern testing is automated. We have board of nails testers that can verify an entire circuit board quickly. Robotic test stations can check buttons and user interface functions. Cameras and sensors can verify the video and audio outputs. It's possible that modern testing is even more comprehensive. The difference is the automation allows it to be done much more quickly and effectively. We don't need armies of people on the line to run these checks. There is also more testing pushed down to the suppliers. We expect our power supply vendors to run extensive testing before they ship their products to our factories. We may run spot checks, but we expect component testing to be decentralized. Ted Eckert Compliance Engineer Microsoft Corporation ted.eck...@microsoft.com The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. Testing - Yes, it looked like they were testing it to death, leaving only the good ones to ship. Obviously, there were enough good ones to give RCA a good reputation. I almost expected quality engineers to be present when the consumer unboxed the set. Locations - I was surprised how many facilities were involved with design manufacturing. Tube testing - I liked the machine with cork bottle tops hitting the sides of tubes. I wonder if it was to test glass strength, or to check for microphonics (excessive microphonics.) Personal safety - I cringed when I saw the woman handling the open liquid nitrogen canister with her bare hands, or the assembly person picking up a CRT by its neck without gloves. My wife recognized the voice of the narrator (Henry 'Jam' Handy), and said must have done every documentary in that era. Pat On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Douglas Nix d...@ieee.org wrote: Interesting look back at 1950's manufacturing, especially from a Quality Assurance, Test and OHS perspective. No workers were using any kind of obvious PPE except a few on the soldering lines. No hearing protection, dust masks, safety glasses or other PPE that I could see. Ergonomics sucked in most cases. From a QA standpoint, it looked to me as if they were trying valiantly to test quality in, rather than build it in. The outdoor open-area-test site was pretty interesting too. These are normally inside inflatable structures now, so you can work in crappy weather as well as good. Cool in any case. Thanks for sharing this, Dieter! Doug On 12-Jun-14, at 15:19, Paasche, Dieter dieter.paas...@christiedigital.com wrote: Testing has changed over time,. or not? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TF2DZ0E0Q4 Dieter - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the
Re: [PSES] RE2: [PSES] Television Manufacturing Documentary From The Late 1950's - YouTube
I was surprised to see Transportation Shock being run on a fully boxed TV. I hadn't realized that any commercial manufacturers had ever done that; I thought it was a strictly military idea. Also, I didn't see anyone smoking. Prior to about 1980, everyone smoked everywhere (or so it seemed to a non-smoker). Ed Price WB6WSN Chula Vista, CA USA -Original Message- From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 10:21 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RE2: [PSES] Television Manufacturing Documentary From The Late 1950's - YouTube PSNet'ers, I enjoyed this video very much. Having worked at Tektronix in the business since about that time as depicted in the video it all looked like what we did day by day to get a quality product out. I am pleased to see the use of Tek scopes prominently displayed since I developed CRT displays for a number of products during that time - before I got involved in the safety regulatory activities. Ted is correct, much of the testing has been automated but, in my opinioin, is more rigorous today; component testing has also been pushed back on the supplier. All of this improves the reliability of the equipment. Thanx for this blast from the past. :) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety Engineer PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 fone/fax mailto:p.perk...@ieee.org p.perk...@ieee.org - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
