Re: [PSES] CCA cables
In order to make use of CCA wire with mains you must have connectors rated for both copper, aluminum and alloys of copper and aluminum. I work with mains connections up to 1000 amps/phase and this is a very common question. Not only do you need this rating on your components but you should also mention this in your technical certification file and in your user documents. All the best, Doug Douglas E Powell doug...@gmail.com (business) https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. Original Message From: Nick Williams Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 5:02 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply To: Nick Williams Subject: [PSES] CCA cables I would be interested in hearing from anyone with experience of testing or using copper coated aluminium (CCA) conductor cable in mains power applications. CCA is already widely used for network and booster cables but there now seems to be a move to use it in flexible power cord applications (specifically, portable extension cables). The corrosion problems associated with the use of aluminium are well known and I am familiar with the physics and chemistry involved. I’m less familiar with how much difference a copper coating makes. I’ve so far failed to find any standards which specifically address the performance or use of CCA cables, and I’m not familiar enough with the standards for copper cables to know valid it would be to apply these to CCA. All insight welcome! Nick. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
Re: [PSES] CCA cables
A Google search shows a number of negative issues. One thing that appears not to be addressed is corrosion. Aluminium is not totally immune to corrosion when chlorides are present, and chlorides are everywhere (except, we hope, in an electrolytic capacitor factory). So considering the electrochemistry, once the oxide layer on the aluminium is breached, electrolytic corrosion could be very fast. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. -Original Message- From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:34 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] CCA cables I would be interested in hearing from anyone with experience of testing or using copper coated aluminium (CCA) conductor cable in mains power applications. CCA is already widely used for network and booster cables but there now seems to be a move to use it in flexible power cord applications (specifically, portable extension cables). The corrosion problems associated with the use of aluminium are well known and I am familiar with the physics and chemistry involved. I’m less familiar with how much difference a copper coating makes. I’ve so far failed to find any standards which specifically address the performance or use of CCA cables, and I’m not familiar enough with the standards for copper cables to know valid it would be to apply these to CCA. All insight welcome! Nick. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
[PSES] CCA cables
I would be interested in hearing from anyone with experience of testing or using copper coated aluminium (CCA) conductor cable in mains power applications. CCA is already widely used for network and booster cables but there now seems to be a move to use it in flexible power cord applications (specifically, portable extension cables). The corrosion problems associated with the use of aluminium are well known and I am familiar with the physics and chemistry involved. I’m less familiar with how much difference a copper coating makes. I’ve so far failed to find any standards which specifically address the performance or use of CCA cables, and I’m not familiar enough with the standards for copper cables to know valid it would be to apply these to CCA. All insight welcome! Nick. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail toAll emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: