Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoquim

2012-08-18 Thread Arthur Michael

Hello John et al,

The English language while blasted by many as difficult, is a marvel in 
itself. I did not need to look up the invented word Provoquim or 
Provoquium in any dictionary. It's meaning was obvious at first glance. 
Very clever of you, John Pearson!


What do you think of my invention: emailversation ??  Is its meaning 
obvious at first glance. I think so. Again, you can blame the English 
language for that - or just enjoy the invention.


While some have mentioned the commercial aspects of safety compliance, 
I've always referred to them as the product safety Laws of Economics.


Try marketing your electrical product to a major retailer in the U.S. 
without safety certifications; it is mandated by J.C. Penney, K-Mart, 
Walmart, Target, Sears, QVC, etc., etc., etc.  Many of them even have 
their own test labs to verify the safety of the electrical products they 
procure and ultimately market to consumers.


In the U.S. insurers of industrial/commercial sites also require 
electrical safety certification of products utilized in those 
industrial/commercial sites.


In my own experience of 30+ years of electrical safety compliance, IBM 
(and other bigs) will not even evaluate an alternate manufacturer's 
power supply, until it bears valid electrical safety cert's.


The Law of Economics is loud and clear; it mandates electical 
product safety compliance for the buyer's offerings.


Best regards, Art Michael

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On Sat, 18 Aug 2012, John Woodgate wrote:

In message 037701cd7d34$3926d4f0$ab747ed0$@mcauley, dated Sat, 18 Aug 2012, 
John McAuley john.mcau...@cei.ie writes:


BTW, has a new word, ?Provoqium?, been invented? I can?t find it in any 
dictionary. Comes up as a variation of provoke.


The spelling is 'unorfadox'! Provoquium would be legitimate classical Latin, 
from provoco, provocare - to challenge, provoke or bring about. The 'ium' 
suffix is for 'a place where...', as in 'auditorium', and the modulation of 
'provocium' to 'provoquium' is conventional.

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John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK



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Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoquim

2012-08-18 Thread John Woodgate
In message 20120818095356.f4...@shelley.shelltown.net, dated Sat, 18 
Aug 2012, Arthur Michael amich...@safetylink.com writes:


The Law of Economics is loud and clear; it mandates electical product 
safety compliance for the buyer's offerings.


I think the question is 'Which is the best way to frame the 'law' - the 
US 'third party way', which used to apply in Europe as well, but a bit 
differently because it was a real law, and the current European way, 
'Manufacturer, you bear total responsibility for your products' safety 
(and EMC etc.) conformity and you can't delegate that to a test house or 
certification body.'?

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total confusion.
John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK

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