[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

[Amund Westin]

Great Boštjan !

 

 

 

 

Fra: Boštjan Glavič 
Sendt: 1. november 2023 15:10
Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Emne: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

 

Hello Amund

 

2 years  is normal transition period. So once standard EN IEC 62368-1:2023
+A11 +A12 will be adopted as harmonised standard, there will be a transition
period where both editions will be harmonised.

 

Best regards 

Boštjan 

 

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From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> >
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To: Boštjan Glavič mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si> >;
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mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> >
Subject: SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 

 

Thanks Boštjan

 

Have I understood correctly, that EN62368-1:2014 will be valid for a minimum
of 2 more years, whether EN62368-1:2023 will soon be approved & harmonized
or not?

 

BR

Amund

 

Fra: Boštjan Glavič 
Sendt: 1. november 2023 11:42
Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Emne: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

 

Amund,

 

TC108X responsible for EN IEC 62368-1 established WG6, to work on comments
from HAS consultants (they do assessment of draft standards for EU
commission). Currently comments received on CD/CDV version of EN IEC
62368-1:2023. We still wait for assessment of FDIS. However, WG6 prepared
answers to HAS consultants (3 consultants, one for LVD, one for RED and one
for GPSD). I hope we will get some more info on the TC108X meeting end of
November. I hope we can get new harmonised standard end of 2024. Therefore
EN 62368-1:2014 will remain valid for min 2 more years in EU.

 

Best regards,

Boštjan

 

 

Boštjan Glavič

Vodja laboratorija za elektroniko / Head of Laboratory
Varnost in elektromagnetika / Safety and Electromagnetics

 

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SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenija
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If a standard is listed in the OJ, it continues to provide a "presumption of
conformity" even it has been "withdrawn" by the standards committee.

 

The 2020 version of 62368-1 will not be listed in  the OJ


The 2023 version of 62368-1 was rejected by the EU Commission but it looks
as though CENELEC voting will see it published anyway.

 

IEC test reports  and CB certificates are not required for CE marking and
they remain valid in other countries until those national authorities have
withdrawn them

 

Best regards

Charlie

 

Charlie Blackham

Sulis Consultants Ltd

Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317

Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ 

Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247

 

From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> > 
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:08 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

 

Hi all

 

Any news about the future standing for the EN62368-1 : 2014?

 

My understanding is that EN62368-1 : 2020 is still not listed in OJ, even
though it should replace EN62368-1 : 2014 in June 2024.

In parallel, EN62368-1 : 2023 is still under work and what do we expect as a
date to replace 2014 and 2020 version?

 

In our case, we have a CB test certificate & report according to EN62368-1 :
2014 and would hope it would be valid at least a year or two more.

 

 

BR

Amund

 

 

Fra: Scott Xe 
Sendt: 8. desember 2022 10:12
Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Emne: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

 

Dear All,

 

Thanks for your comments!  It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and hope
there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period.

 

Best regards,

 

Scott

 

On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe mailto:scott...@gmail.com> 

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

[Boštjan Glavič]

Hello Amund

2 years  is normal transition period. So once standard EN IEC 62368-1:2023 +A11 
+A12 will be adopted as harmonised standard, there will be a transition period 
where both editions will be harmonised.

Best regards
Boštjan

Poslano iz Outlook za Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>

From: Amund Westin 
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 12:07:05 PM
To: Boštjan Glavič ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 

Subject: SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014


Thanks Boštjan



Have I understood correctly, that EN62368-1:2014 will be valid for a minimum of 
2 more years, whether EN62368-1:2023 will soon be approved & harmonized or not?



BR

Amund



Fra: Boštjan Glavič
Sendt: 1. november 2023 11:42
Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Emne: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014



Amund,



TC108X responsible for EN IEC 62368-1 established WG6, to work on comments from 
HAS consultants (they do assessment of draft standards for EU commission). 
Currently comments received on CD/CDV version of EN IEC 62368-1:2023. We still 
wait for assessment of FDIS. However, WG6 prepared answers to HAS consultants 
(3 consultants, one for LVD, one for RED and one for GPSD). I hope we will get 
some more info on the TC108X meeting end of November. I hope we can get new 
harmonised standard end of 2024. Therefore EN 62368-1:2014 will remain valid 
for min 2 more years in EU.



Best regards,

Boštjan





Boštjan Glavič

Vodja laboratorija za elektroniko / Head of Laboratory
Varnost in elektromagnetika / Safety and Electromagnetics



SIQ Ljubljana, Mašera-Spasićeva ulica 10,
SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenija
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If a standard is listed in the OJ, it continues to provide a “presumption of 
conformity” even it has been “withdrawn” by the standards committee.



The 2020 version of 62368-1 will not be listed in  the OJ

The 2023 version of 62368-1 was rejected by the EU Commission but it looks as 
though CENELEC voting will see it published anyway.



IEC test reports  and CB certificates are not required for CE marking and they 
remain valid in other countries until those national authorities have withdrawn 
them



Best regards

Charlie



Charlie Blackham

Sulis Consultants Ltd

Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317

Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/

Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247



From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no>>
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:08 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014



Hi all



Any news about the future standing for the EN62368-1 : 2014?



My understanding is that EN62368-1 : 2020 is still not listed in OJ, even 
though it should replace EN62368-1 : 2014 in June 2024.

In parallel, EN62368-1 : 2023 is still under work and what do we expect as a 
date to replace 2014 and 2020 version?



In our case, we have a CB test certificate & report according to EN62368-1 : 
2014 and would hope it would be valid at least a year or two more.





BR

Amund





Fra: Scott Xe
Sendt: 8. desember 2022 10:12
Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Emne: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014



Dear All,



Thanks for your comments!  It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and hope 
there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period.



Best regards,



Scott



On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe 
mailto:scott...@gmail.com>> wrote:

CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024.  
What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market 
surveillances?



EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ.  All the relevant 
products should follow this version for EU markets.  What is the point of this 
change to them?



In general the test 

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

[Amund Westin]

Thanks Boštjan

 

Have I understood correctly, that EN62368-1:2014 will be valid for a minimum of 
2 more years, whether EN62368-1:2023 will soon be approved & harmonized or not?

 

BR

Amund

 

Fra: Boštjan Glavič 
Sendt: 1. november 2023 11:42
Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Emne: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

 

Amund,

 

TC108X responsible for EN IEC 62368-1 established WG6, to work on comments from 
HAS consultants (they do assessment of draft standards for EU commission). 
Currently comments received on CD/CDV version of EN IEC 62368-1:2023. We still 
wait for assessment of FDIS. However, WG6 prepared answers to HAS consultants 
(3 consultants, one for LVD, one for RED and one for GPSD). I hope we will get 
some more info on the TC108X meeting end of November. I hope we can get new 
harmonised standard end of 2024. Therefore EN 62368-1:2014 will remain valid 
for min 2 more years in EU.

 

Best regards,

Boštjan

 

 

Boštjan Glavič

Vodja laboratorija za elektroniko / Head of Laboratory
Varnost in elektromagnetika / Safety and Electromagnetics

 

SIQ Ljubljana, Mašera-Spasićeva ulica 10,
SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenija
T: +386 1 4778 265
M: +386 41 391 283
bostjan.gla...@siq.si <mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si> ; www.siq.si 
<https://www.siq.si/> 


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Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 9:11 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

 


CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organisation. Do not click 
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Amund

 

If a standard is listed in the OJ, it continues to provide a “presumption of 
conformity” even it has been “withdrawn” by the standards committee.

 

The 2020 version of 62368-1 will not be listed in  the OJ


The 2023 version of 62368-1 was rejected by the EU Commission but it looks as 
though CENELEC voting will see it published anyway.

 

IEC test reports  and CB certificates are not required for CE marking and they 
remain valid in other countries until those national authorities have withdrawn 
them

 

Best regards

Charlie

 

Charlie Blackham

Sulis Consultants Ltd

Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317

Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ 

Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247

 

From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> 
> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:08 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

 

Hi all

 

Any news about the future standing for the EN62368-1 : 2014?

 

My understanding is that EN62368-1 : 2020 is still not listed in OJ, even 
though it should replace EN62368-1 : 2014 in June 2024.

In parallel, EN62368-1 : 2023 is still under work and what do we expect as a 
date to replace 2014 and 2020 version?

 

In our case, we have a CB test certificate & report according to EN62368-1 : 
2014 and would hope it would be valid at least a year or two more.

 

 

BR

Amund

 

 

Fra: Scott Xe 
Sendt: 8. desember 2022 10:12
Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Emne: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

 

Dear All,

 

Thanks for your comments!  It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and hope 
there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period.

 

Best regards,

 

Scott

 

On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe mailto:scott...@gmail.com> > wrote:

CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024.  
What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market 
surveillances?

 

EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ.  All the relevant 
products should follow this version for EU markets.  What is the point of this 
change to them?

 

In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients in 
this aspect.  Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes CENELEC.  
Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to follow.  Some 
countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as their national 
standards.  Can't withdrawn standards be used?

 

Thanks and best regards,

 

Scott

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Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

[Boštjan Glavič]

Amund,

TC108X responsible for EN IEC 62368-1 established WG6, to work on comments from 
HAS consultants (they do assessment of draft standards for EU commission). 
Currently comments received on CD/CDV version of EN IEC 62368-1:2023. We still 
wait for assessment of FDIS. However, WG6 prepared answers to HAS consultants 
(3 consultants, one for LVD, one for RED and one for GPSD). I hope we will get 
some more info on the TC108X meeting end of November. I hope we can get new 
harmonised standard end of 2024. Therefore EN 62368-1:2014 will remain valid 
for min 2 more years in EU.

Best regards,
Boštjan


Boštjan Glavič
Vodja laboratorija za elektroniko / Head of Laboratory
Varnost in elektromagnetika / Safety and Electromagnetics

SIQ Ljubljana, Mašera-Spasićeva ulica 10,
SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenija
T: +386 1 4778 265
M: +386 41 391 283
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To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

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If a standard is listed in the OJ, it continues to provide a “presumption of 
conformity” even it has been “withdrawn” by the standards committee.

The 2020 version of 62368-1 will not be listed in  the OJ

The 2023 version of 62368-1 was rejected by the EU Commission but it looks as 
though CENELEC voting will see it published anyway.

IEC test reports  and CB certificates are not required for CE marking and they 
remain valid in other countries until those national authorities have withdrawn 
them

Best regards
Charlie

Charlie Blackham
Sulis Consultants Ltd
Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317
Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/
Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247

From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no>>
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:08 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

Hi all

Any news about the future standing for the EN62368-1 : 2014?

My understanding is that EN62368-1 : 2020 is still not listed in OJ, even 
though it should replace EN62368-1 : 2014 in June 2024.
In parallel, EN62368-1 : 2023 is still under work and what do we expect as a 
date to replace 2014 and 2020 version?

In our case, we have a CB test certificate & report according to EN62368-1 : 
2014 and would hope it would be valid at least a year or two more.


BR
Amund


Fra: Scott Xe
Sendt: 8. desember 2022 10:12
Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Emne: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

Dear All,

Thanks for your comments!  It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and hope 
there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period.

Best regards,

Scott

On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe 
mailto:scott...@gmail.com>> wrote:
CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024.  
What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market 
surveillances?

EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ.  All the relevant 
products should follow this version for EU markets.  What is the point of this 
change to them?

In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients in 
this aspect.  Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes CENELEC.  
Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to follow.  Some 
countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as their national 
standards.  Can't withdrawn standards be used?

Thanks and best regards,

Scott
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Amund

If a standard is listed in the OJ, it continues to provide a “presumption of 
conformity” even it has been “withdrawn” by the standards committee.

The 2020 version of 62368-1 will not be listed in  the OJ

The 2023 version of 62368-1 was rejected by the EU Commission but it looks as 
though CENELEC voting will see it published anyway.

IEC test reports  and CB certificates are not required for CE marking and they 
remain valid in other countries until those national authorities have withdrawn 
them

Best regards
Charlie

Charlie Blackham
Sulis Consultants Ltd
Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317
Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/
Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247

From: Amund Westin 
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:08 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

Hi all

Any news about the future standing for the EN62368-1 : 2014?

My understanding is that EN62368-1 : 2020 is still not listed in OJ, even 
though it should replace EN62368-1 : 2014 in June 2024.
In parallel, EN62368-1 : 2023 is still under work and what do we expect as a 
date to replace 2014 and 2020 version?

In our case, we have a CB test certificate & report according to EN62368-1 : 
2014 and would hope it would be valid at least a year or two more.


BR
Amund


Fra: Scott Xe
Sendt: 8. desember 2022 10:12
Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Emne: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

Dear All,

Thanks for your comments!  It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and hope 
there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period.

Best regards,

Scott

On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe 
mailto:scott...@gmail.com>> wrote:
CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024.  
What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market 
surveillances?

EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ.  All the relevant 
products should follow this version for EU markets.  What is the point of this 
change to them?

In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients in 
this aspect.  Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes CENELEC.  
Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to follow.  Some 
countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as their national 
standards.  Can't withdrawn standards be used?

Thanks and best regards,

Scott
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[PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

[Amund Westin]

Hi all

 

Any news about the future standing for the EN62368-1 : 2014?

 

My understanding is that EN62368-1 : 2020 is still not listed in OJ, even 
though it should replace EN62368-1 : 2014 in June 2024.

In parallel, EN62368-1 : 2023 is still under work and what do we expect as a 
date to replace 2014 and 2020 version?

 

In our case, we have a CB test certificate & report according to EN62368-1 : 
2014 and would hope it would be valid at least a year or two more.

 

 

BR

Amund

 

 

Fra: Scott Xe 
Sendt: 8. desember 2022 10:12
Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Emne: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

 

Dear All,

 

Thanks for your comments!  It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and hope 
there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period.

 

Best regards,

 

Scott

 

On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe mailto:scott...@gmail.com> > wrote:

CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024.  
What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market 
surveillances?

 

EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ.  All the relevant 
products should follow this version for EU markets.  What is the point of this 
change to them?

 

In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients in 
this aspect.  Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes CENELEC.  
Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to follow.  Some 
countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as their national 
standards.  Can't withdrawn standards be used?

 

Thanks and best regards,

 

Scott

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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

[Scott Xe]

Dear All,

Thanks for your comments!  It said version 4 will be issued in 2023 and
hope there is less chance to have amendments during the extension period.

Best regards,

Scott

On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 at 00:42, Scott Xe  wrote:

> CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to
> 06/07/2024.  What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses
> and market surveillances?
>
> EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ.  All the relevant
> products should follow this version for EU markets.  What is the point of
> this change to them?
>
> In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients
> in this aspect.  Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes
> CENELEC.  Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to
> follow.  Some countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as
> their national standards.  Can't withdrawn standards be used?
>
> Thanks and best regards,
>
> Scott
>

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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

[Charlie Blackham]

Scott

My understanding is that the extension is purely so that there is not an 
expired standard listed in the OJ for the LVD – that’s all

There is no legal link between the dates in a standard and compliance with a 
Directive

A manufacturer is free to use whatever standards they wish for compliance with 
LVD and article 3.1(a) of the RED, but only Harmonised Standards currently 
listed in the OJ provide a Presumption of Conformity

Best regards
Charlie

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From: Scott Xe 
Sent: 07 December 2022 16:43
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024.  
What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market 
surveillances?

EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ.  All the relevant 
products should follow this version for EU markets.  What is the point of this 
change to them?

In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients in 
this aspect.  Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes CENELEC.  
Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to follow.  Some 
countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as their national 
standards.  Can't withdrawn standards be used?

Thanks and best regards,

Scott
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[PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

[Scott Xe]

CENELEC recently extended DoW for 18 months from 06/01/2023 to 06/07/2024.
What are the impacts on importers/manufacturers, test houses and market
surveillances?

EN 62368-1 : 2014 is still valid for LVD/RED in EUOJ.  All the relevant
products should follow this version for EU markets.  What is the point of
this change to them?

In general the test houses give unclear interpretations to their clients
in this aspect.  Sometimes, they follow EUOJ requirements but sometimes
CENELEC.  Some importers/manufacturers also confuse which requirements to
follow.  Some countries also may not adopt the latest IEC/EN standard as
their national standards.  Can't withdrawn standards be used?

Thanks and best regards,

Scott

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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

[Ralph McDiarmid]

Gee, and I thought SDOs like UL and CSA were the only ones with issues.  ;^))

Ralph McDiarmid
Product Compliance
Engineering
Solar Business
Schneider Electric


From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 2:34 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

See my recent post  about chaos. It applies to EN 60950-1 as well as EN 60065.

With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only
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From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:54 AM
To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Hello Bostjan.

Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950?

Regards;

Ian McBurney
Design & Compliance Engineer.

Allen & Heath Ltd.
Kernick Industrial Estate,
Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK
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E: mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com


From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] 
Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08
To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Dear all,

There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 
20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very 
important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 
into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020.

Best regards,
Bostjan


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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

[Boštjan Glavič]

Hello Ian,

I have not been informed about it. If you check linked-in, UL is advertising 
count-down till DoW for EN 60065:2014.

Best regards,
Bostjan

From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 11:23 AM
To: Boštjan Glavič <bostjan.gla...@siq.si>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Hello Bostjan.

I was informed by a testing agency that the DOW was the same as EN 60950 i.e. 
20-12-2020.

Regards;

Ian McBurney
Design & Compliance Engineer.

Allen & Heath Ltd.
Kernick Industrial Estate,
Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK
T: 01326 372070
E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com<mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com>


From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si]
Sent: 11 September 2017 09:58
To: McBurney, Ian 
<ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com<mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com>>; 
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Hello Ian,

EN 60065:2014 has a DoW 17.11.2017. This is in two months.

For this standard CENELEC and OJ show the same DoW.

Best regards,
Bostjan

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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:54 AM
To: Boštjan Glavič <bostjan.gla...@siq.si<mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si>>; 
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Hello Bostjan.

Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950?

Regards;

Ian McBurney
Design & Compliance Engineer.

Allen & Heath Ltd.
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Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK
T: 01326 372070
E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com<mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com>


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Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Dear all,

There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 
20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very 
important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 
into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020.

Best regards,
Bostjan


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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

[John Woodgate]

That's what it SHOULD be, but for some reason it was proposed to withdraw
from EN 62368-1 the text that allows parts conforming to the older standards
to be used, with no date of withdrawal specified. Many National Committees
have said that it must not be withdrawn until 2020-12-20, but there is no
official decision yet, hence chaos.. 
 
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only
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Associates Rayleigh England
 
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From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:23 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
 
Hello Bostjan.
 
I was informed by a testing agency that the DOW was the same as EN 60950
i.e. 20-12-2020.
 
Regards;
 
Ian McBurney
Design & Compliance Engineer.
 
Allen & Heath Ltd.
Kernick Industrial Estate,
Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK
T: 01326 372070
E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com <mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> 
 
 
From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] 
Sent: 11 September 2017 09:58
To: McBurney, Ian <ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com
<mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> >; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
 
Hello Ian,
 
EN 60065:2014 has a DoW 17.11.2017. This is in two months.
 
For this standard CENELEC and OJ show the same DoW.
 
Best regards,
Bostjan
 
From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:54 AM
To: Boštjan Glavič <bostjan.gla...@siq.si <mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si> >;
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
 
Hello Bostjan.
 
Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950?
 
Regards;
 
Ian McBurney
Design & Compliance Engineer.
 
Allen & Heath Ltd.
Kernick Industrial Estate,
Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK
T: 01326 372070
E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com <mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> 
 
 
From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] 
Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
 
Dear all,
 
There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still
DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It
is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN
60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020.
 
Best regards,
Bostjan
 
 
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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

[McBurney, Ian]

Hello Bostjan.

I was informed by a testing agency that the DOW was the same as EN 60950 i.e. 
20-12-2020.

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Ian McBurney
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E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com


From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si]
Sent: 11 September 2017 09:58
To: McBurney, Ian <ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Hello Ian,

EN 60065:2014 has a DoW 17.11.2017. This is in two months.

For this standard CENELEC and OJ show the same DoW.

Best regards,
Bostjan

From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:54 AM
To: Boštjan Glavič <bostjan.gla...@siq.si<mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si>>; 
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Hello Bostjan.

Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950?

Regards;

Ian McBurney
Design & Compliance Engineer.

Allen & Heath Ltd.
Kernick Industrial Estate,
Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK
T: 01326 372070
E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com<mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com>


From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si]
Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Dear all,

There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 
20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very 
important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 
into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020.

Best regards,
Bostjan


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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

[John Woodgate]

See my recent post  about chaos. It applies to EN 60950-1 as well as EN
60065.
 
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only
 <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and
Associates Rayleigh England
 
UK is a sovereignty, not a Zollverein-ty
 
From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:54 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
 
Hello Bostjan.
 
Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950?
 
Regards;
 
Ian McBurney
Design & Compliance Engineer.
 
Allen & Heath Ltd.
Kernick Industrial Estate,
Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK
T: 01326 372070
E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com <mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> 
 
 
From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] 
Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
 
Dear all,
 
There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still
DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It
is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN
60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020.
 
Best regards,
Bostjan
 
 
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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

[McBurney, Ian]

Hello Bostjan.

Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950?

Regards;

Ian McBurney
Design & Compliance Engineer.

Allen & Heath Ltd.
Kernick Industrial Estate,
Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK
T: 01326 372070
E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com


From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si]
Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Dear all,

There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 
20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very 
important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 
into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020.

Best regards,
Bostjan


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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

[John Woodgate]

Yes, well, it's all in chaos. Several National Committees have asked CENELEC
to change that date to 20 December 2020 or later.
 
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only
 <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and
Associates Rayleigh England
 
UK is a sovereignty, not a Zollverein-ty
 
From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:58 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
 
Hello Ian,
 
EN 60065:2014 has a DoW 17.11.2017. This is in two months.
 
For this standard CENELEC and OJ show the same DoW.
 
Best regards,
Bostjan
 
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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:54 AM
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EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
 
Hello Bostjan.
 
Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950?
 
Regards;
 
Ian McBurney
Design & Compliance Engineer.
 
Allen & Heath Ltd.
Kernick Industrial Estate,
Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK
T: 01326 372070
E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com <mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> 
 
 
From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] 
Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
 
Dear all,
 
There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still
DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It
is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN
60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020.
 
Best regards,
Bostjan
 
 
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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

[Boštjan Glavič]

Hello Ian,

EN 60065:2014 has a DoW 17.11.2017. This is in two months.

For this standard CENELEC and OJ show the same DoW.

Best regards,
Bostjan

From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:54 AM
To: Boštjan Glavič <bostjan.gla...@siq.si>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Hello Bostjan.

Do you know if EN 60065:2014 has the same withdrawal date as EN 60950?

Regards;

Ian McBurney
Design & Compliance Engineer.

Allen & Heath Ltd.
Kernick Industrial Estate,
Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK
T: 01326 372070
E: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com<mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com>


From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si]
Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Dear all,

There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 
20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very 
important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 
into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020.

Best regards,
Bostjan


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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

[Boštjan Glavič]

Hello Nick,

Thank you for this clarification.

Best regards,
Bostjan

From: Hooper, Nick [mailto:nick.hoo...@ul.com]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:23 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Hello Bostjan

The EU Commission are "aware" of this, the last update to the LVD OJEU was to 
add "take into account the new status of the 60335-2-9"
There are a number of updates in the pipeline and they are working with CENELEC.

Best Regards
Nick

From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si]
Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Dear all,

There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 
20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very 
important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 
into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020.

Best regards,
Bostjan


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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

[John Woodgate]

There should be an explanation of such things at the top of the OJ list, but
that would require intelligence, which is contrary to policy.
 
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only
 <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and
Associates Rayleigh England
 
UK is a sovereignty, not a Zollverein-ty
 
From: Hooper, Nick [mailto:nick.hoo...@ul.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:23 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
 
Hello Bostjan
 
The EU Commission are "aware" of this, the last update to the LVD OJEU was
to add "take into account the new status of the 60335-2-9"
There are a number of updates in the pipeline and they are working with
CENELEC.
 
Best Regards
Nick
 
From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] 
Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> 
Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
 
Dear all,
 
There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still
DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It
is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN
60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020.
 
Best regards,
Bostjan
 
 
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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

[John Woodgate]

I have flagged this up to the BSI committee, which may produce an
explanation.
 
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only
 <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and
Associates Rayleigh England
 
UK is a sovereignty, not a Zollverein-ty
 
From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:08 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW
 
Dear all,
 
There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still
DoW 20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It
is very important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN
60950-1 into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020.
 
Best regards,
Bostjan
 
 
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Re: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

[Hooper, Nick]

Hello Bostjan

The EU Commission are "aware" of this, the last update to the LVD OJEU was to 
add "take into account the new status of the 60335-2-9"
There are a number of updates in the pipeline and they are working with CENELEC.

Best Regards
Nick

From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si]
Sent: 11 September 2017 09:08
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

Dear all,

There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 
20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very 
important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 
into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020.

Best regards,
Bostjan


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[PSES] EN 62368-1:2014 DoW

[Boštjan Glavič]

Dear all,

There was new EU official journey published on Sep 08 2017, however still DoW 
20.06.2019 is mentioned for EN 62368-1. Is anyone familiar about it? It is very 
important topic for customer who need to change certification for EN 60950-1 
into EN 62368-1. Cenelec web page shows DoW as Dec 20, 2020.

Best regards,
Bostjan



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