Re: [PSES] [EXT] Re: [PSES] ESD standards for testing remotes
If the board ground is referenced to DC return, you could discharge it from the negative side of the batteries, if accessible. Best Regards, Charlie From: James Pawson (U3C) Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 5:01 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [EXT] Re: [PSES] ESD standards for testing remotes ATTENTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Please do not open any attachments or click any links unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hi Charles, I thought you were Mr. RF these days and didn't stoop to lowly EMC tests ;-) Agree with Charlie on EN 55035 - - > IEC 61000-4-2 @ 8kV air and 4kV contact. Removing the built up charge from the insulated surface will be the challenge during testing. All the best James Charlie Blackham wrote Charles Assuming it’s infrared only, EN 55035 would be a suitable product standard (Infrared remote controls are referenced as ancillary/support equipment for TVs in the informative Annex J) A wireless remote would additionally be tested to EN 301 489-x, but the test levels are the same Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/sulisconsultants.com/__;!!LVMHySo!nqPjS6U_onUumPWYl9vbyPEztNfet_jjsgMIQK91T71AyTtB110A4RYIMIP1XLgCqEeMljSoH659y1lXH-_uFW94SPU$> Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Chas Grasso mailto:charles.gra...@dish.com>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 11:24 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] ESD standards for testing remotes Hello gurus! Does anyone know of an official standard for ESD testing remotes used for TVs /STBs etc? Thanking you in advance!! -- Charles Grasso Dish Technologies (c) 303-204-2974 (w) 303-706-5467 (h) 303-317-5530 (e ) charles.gra...@dish.com<mailto:charles.gra...@dish.com> (e2) chasgra...@gmail.com<mailto:chasgra...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html__;!!LVMHySo!nqPjS6U_onUumPWYl9vbyPEztNfet_jjsgMIQK91T71AyTtB110A4RYIMIP1XLgCqEeMljSoH659y1lXH-_uXfUjJ74$> Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.ieee-pses.org/__;!!LVMHySo!nqPjS6U_onUumPWYl9vbyPEztNfet_jjsgMIQK91T71AyTtB110A4RYIMIP1XLgCqEeMljSoH659y1lXH-_usAXFf6Y$> Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.ieee-pses.org/list.html__;!!LVMHySo!nqPjS6U_onUumPWYl9vbyPEztNfet_jjsgMIQK91T71AyTtB110A4RYIMIP1XLgCqEeMljSoH659y1lXH-_uv6aHsUw$> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html__;!!LVMHySo!nqPjS6U_onUumPWYl9vbyPEztNfet_jjsgMIQK91T71AyTtB110A4RYIMIP1XLgCqEeMljSoH659y1lXH-_uNe-cx7A$> For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC=1__;!!LVMHySo!nqPjS6U_onUumPWYl9vbyPEztNfet_jjsgMIQK91T71AyTtB110A4RYIMIP1XLgCqEeMljSoH659y1lXH-_upAQWJNA$> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html__;!!LVMHySo!nqPjS6U_onUumPWYl9vbyPEztNfet_jjsgMIQK91T71AyTtB110A4RYIMIP1XLgCqEeMljSoH659y1lXH-_uXfUjJ74$> Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.ieee-pses.org/__;!!LVMHySo!nqPjS6U_onUumPWYl9vbyPEztNfet_jjsgMIQK91T71AyTtB110A4RYIMIP1XLgCqEeMljSoH659y1lXH-_usAXFf6Y$> Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.ieee-pses.org/list.html__;!!LVMHySo!nqPjS6U_onUumPWYl9vbyPEztNfet_jjsgMIQK91T71AyTtB110A4RYIMIP1XLgCqEeMljSoH659y1lXH-_uv6aHsUw$> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html__;!!LVMHySo!nqPjS6U_onUumPWYl9vbyPEztNfet_jjsgMIQK91T71AyTtB110A4RYI
Re: [PSES] ESD standards for testing remotes
Hi Charles, I thought you were Mr. RF these days and didn't stoop to lowly EMC tests ;-) Agree with Charlie on EN 55035 - - > IEC 61000-4-2 @ 8kV air and 4kV contact. Removing the built up charge from the insulated surface will be the challenge during testing. All the best James Charlie Blackham wrote >Charles > >Assuming it’s infrared only, EN 55035 would be a suitable product standard >(Infrared remote controls are referenced as ancillary/support equipment for >TVs in the informative Annex J) > >A wireless remote would additionally be tested to EN 301 489-x, but the test >levels are the same > >Best regards >Charlie > >Charlie Blackham >Sulis Consultants Ltd >Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 >Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ >Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 > >From: Chas Grasso >Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 11:24 PM >To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >Subject: [PSES] ESD standards for testing remotes > >Hello gurus! > >Does anyone know of an official standard for ESD testing remotes used for TVs >/STBs etc? > >Thanking you in advance!! > > >-- >Charles Grasso >Dish Technologies > (c) 303-204-2974 >(w) 303-706-5467 >(h) 303-317-5530 >(e ) charles.gra...@dish.com<mailto:charles.gra...@dish.com> >(e2) chasgra...@gmail.com<mailto:chasgra...@gmail.com> >- > > >This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc >discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to >mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> > >All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: >http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > >Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ >Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to >unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> >List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > >For help, send mail to the list administrators: >Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> > >For policy questions, send mail to: >Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> >David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> > > > >To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: >https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC=1 > >- > >This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc >discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to > > >All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: >http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > >Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ >Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to >unsubscribe) >List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > >For help, send mail to the list administrators: >Mike Cantwell > >For policy questions, send mail to: >Jim Bacher: >David Heald: >_ >To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: >https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC=1 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: _ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC=1
Re: [PSES] ESD standards for testing remotes
Charles Assuming it’s infrared only, EN 55035 would be a suitable product standard (Infrared remote controls are referenced as ancillary/support equipment for TVs in the informative Annex J) A wireless remote would additionally be tested to EN 301 489-x, but the test levels are the same Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Chas Grasso Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 11:24 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] ESD standards for testing remotes Hello gurus! Does anyone know of an official standard for ESD testing remotes used for TVs /STBs etc? Thanking you in advance!! -- Charles Grasso Dish Technologies (c) 303-204-2974 (w) 303-706-5467 (h) 303-317-5530 (e ) charles.gra...@dish.com<mailto:charles.gra...@dish.com> (e2) chasgra...@gmail.com<mailto:chasgra...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC=1 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: _ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC=1
[PSES] ESD standards for testing remotes
Hello gurus! Does anyone know of an official standard for ESD testing remotes used for TVs /STBs etc? Thanking you in advance!! -- Charles Grasso Dish Technologies (c) 303-204-2974 (w) 303-706-5467 (h) 303-317-5530 (e ) charles.gra...@dish.com (e2) chasgra...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: _ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC=1
