Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable
Yes it was KDB number 981555. But, as mentioned the specific question was for detachable power cables. That being said I have personally witnessed many products with detachable cables with loose ferrites in the box for the customer to install especially on recent televisions. -Chad From: Bill Owsley [mailto:wdows...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:25 PM To: Bell, Chad; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable Was this response on the KDB, the Knowledge Data Base? If so, what is the number? That is where the FCC makes rulings on a near day to day bases. And those reasons are very similar to the ones given for the EU requirement. From: Bell, Chad chad_b...@bose.commailto:chad_b...@bose.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable Gary, Here is the response from the FCC on the same question except we asked about adding a ferrite on the power cable. “The power cord with ferrite snaps and clamps for conducted emission compliance has got to be supplied as one unit. That is to say, the ferrite snaps and clamps must be incorporated into the power cord such that the purchaser of the electronic device does not have to put the ferrite snap or clamp onto the power cord when he or she is assembling the device for operation. The reason is that the FCC's historically knows that the buyer or purchaser of the electronic device will not put the ferrite snap or clamp onto the power cord and as a result the manufacturer must incorporate it into the power cord.” Sincerely, Chad Bell From: Myers, Gary [mailto:gary.my...@xerox.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:11 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable EMC Experts, If an ITE product requires a ferrite on an external LAN cable in order to comply with FCC Part 15 and EU EMC Directive requirements, is it legally required that the manufacturer include the LAN cable fitted with the ferrite with the ITE product, or can the manufacturer simply provide the ferrite along with detailed installation instructions for the end user to add the ferrite to his own LAN cable? Thanks, Gary Myers - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org
Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable
The KDB *supplements* the Part 15 Rules. I would start with Part 15.27. Also consider who is installing the equipment. Consumer or Professional? -Bob From: Bell, Chad [mailto:chad_b...@bose.com] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:54 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable Yes it was KDB number 981555. But, as mentioned the specific question was for detachable power cables. That being said I have personally witnessed many products with detachable cables with loose ferrites in the box for the customer to install especially on recent televisions. -Chad From: Bill Owsley [mailto:wdows...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:25 PM To: Bell, Chad; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable Was this response on the KDB, the Knowledge Data Base? If so, what is the number? That is where the FCC makes rulings on a near day to day bases. And those reasons are very similar to the ones given for the EU requirement. From: Bell, Chad chad_b...@bose.commailto:chad_b...@bose.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable Gary, Here is the response from the FCC on the same question except we asked about adding a ferrite on the power cable. “The power cord with ferrite snaps and clamps for conducted emission compliance has got to be supplied as one unit. That is to say, the ferrite snaps and clamps must be incorporated into the power cord such that the purchaser of the electronic device does not have to put the ferrite snap or clamp onto the power cord when he or she is assembling the device for operation. The reason is that the FCC's historically knows that the buyer or purchaser of the electronic device will not put the ferrite snap or clamp onto the power cord and as a result the manufacturer must incorporate it into the power cord.” Sincerely, Chad Bell From: Myers, Gary [mailto:gary.my...@xerox.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:11 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable EMC Experts, If an ITE product requires a ferrite on an external LAN cable in order to comply with FCC Part 15 and EU EMC Directive requirements, is it legally required that the manufacturer include the LAN cable fitted with the ferrite with the ITE product, or can the manufacturer simply provide the ferrite along with detailed installation instructions for the end user to add the ferrite to his own LAN cable? Thanks, Gary Myers - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p
[PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable
EMC Experts, If an ITE product requires a ferrite on an external LAN cable in order to comply with FCC Part 15 and EU EMC Directive requirements, is it legally required that the manufacturer include the LAN cable fitted with the ferrite with the ITE product, or can the manufacturer simply provide the ferrite along with detailed installation instructions for the end user to add the ferrite to his own LAN cable? Thanks, Gary Myers - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable
In message b663bfa8769f0c478865f765ed1d17d319de0...@usa7109mb006.na.xerox.net, dated Fri, 4 Oct 2013, Myers, Gary gary.my...@xerox.com writes: If an ITE product requires a ferrite on an external LAN cable in order to comply with FCC Part 15 and EU EMC Directive requirements, is it legally required that the manufacturer include the LAN cable fitted with the ferrite with the ITE product, or can the manufacturer simply provide the ferrite along with detailed installation instructions for the end user to add the ferrite to his own LAN cable? Legal requirements don't go down to such details. This is where your EMC Assessment file comes in. You explain in it what you have done - provided the ferrite and explained how to use it. In the unlikely event of an investigation, you have exercised due diligence. I would suggest a form of magic words for the instructions: 'For continued conformity with EMC regulations, a LAN cable with a ferrite filter is required. If your LAN cable does not have such a filter, it is essential to install the filter provided.' -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk If dictionaries were correct, we would only need one, because they would all give the same information. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable
Gary, Here is the response from the FCC on the same question except we asked about adding a ferrite on the power cable. The power cord with ferrite snaps and clamps for conducted emission compliance has got to be supplied as one unit. That is to say, the ferrite snaps and clamps must be incorporated into the power cord such that the purchaser of the electronic device does not have to put the ferrite snap or clamp onto the power cord when he or she is assembling the device for operation. The reason is that the FCC's historically knows that the buyer or purchaser of the electronic device will not put the ferrite snap or clamp onto the power cord and as a result the manufacturer must incorporate it into the power cord. Sincerely, Chad Bell From: Myers, Gary [mailto:gary.my...@xerox.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:11 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable EMC Experts, If an ITE product requires a ferrite on an external LAN cable in order to comply with FCC Part 15 and EU EMC Directive requirements, is it legally required that the manufacturer include the LAN cable fitted with the ferrite with the ITE product, or can the manufacturer simply provide the ferrite along with detailed installation instructions for the end user to add the ferrite to his own LAN cable? Thanks, Gary Myers - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable
In message 830f86aca6c04c0aa3791601703cb...@bl2pr08mb273.namprd08.prod.outlook.com , dated Fri, 4 Oct 2013, Bell, Chad chad_b...@bose.com writes: Here is the response from the FCC on the same question except we asked about adding a ferrite on the power cable. That may be OK for a power cable, as they are usually fairly short and provided with the product anyway. But surely it's impracticable for a LAN cable, that could be 500 m long! -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk If dictionaries were correct, we would only need one, because they would all give the same information. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable
I agree with John (as I usually do). We purchased an electronic device a few years ago in the US and it came is a bag of snap-on ferrite beads and instructions to what cables they had to be put on; even though not all the cables were provided. For instance, if I used a USB printer then one of the beads where to go on the USB cable. I have seen instructions for electronic devices that require the customer to purchase shielded I/O cables. I've even seen where shielded Ethernet cables are required (usually short jumper cables between server and switch). I used to work for a PC company and the rule was No Ferrite Beads on I/O cables because Marketing says it gives the appearance of a low quality product, but today is not unusual to see two or three cables on your PC with molded ferrite beads. What more can be expected from any company than to provide the means and instructions to their customer on how to setup and use the product so it is compliant to the FCC regulations? IMHO The Other Brian -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:29 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable In message 830f86aca6c04c0aa3791601703cb...@bl2pr08mb273.namprd08.prod.outlook.com , dated Fri, 4 Oct 2013, Bell, Chad chad_b...@bose.com writes: Here is the response from the FCC on the same question except we asked about adding a ferrite on the power cable. That may be OK for a power cable, as they are usually fairly short and provided with the product anyway. But surely it's impracticable for a LAN cable, that could be 500 m long! -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk If dictionaries were correct, we would only need one, because they would all give the same information. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com LECO Corporation Notice: This communication may contain confidential information intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you received this by mistake, please destroy it and notify us of the error. Thank you. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable
Hello Gary, I know Panasonic supply clip-on ferrite cores with some of their TV's with the instruction to fit them to certain cables the end user plugs into the TV. This would seem a sensible approach where the manufacturer doesn't supply all the cables that will be plugged into their product but where they know their product may conduct EMI from those ports. Your scenario seems like a perfect example of this. You wouldn't expect to receive LAN cables with a PC but if you know you emit from that port then you provide the user with the means to suppress those emissions. Just my thoughts... T - Original Message - From: Myers, Gary Sent: 10/04/13 01:11 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable EMC Experts, If an ITE product requires a ferrite on an external LAN cable in order to comply with FCC Part 15 and EU EMC Directive requirements, is it legally required that the manufacturer include the LAN cable fitted with the ferrite with the ITE product, or can the manufacturer simply provide the ferrite along with detailed installation instructions for the end user to add the ferrite to his own LAN cable? Thanks, Gary Myers - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to LT; emc-p...@ieee.org GT; All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas LT; emcp...@radiusnorth.net GT; Mike Cantwell LT; mcantw...@ieee.org GT; For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher LT; j.bac...@ieee.org GT; David Heald LT; dhe...@gmail.com GT; - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable
Was this response on the KDB, the Knowledge Data Base? If so, what is the number? That is where the FCC makes rulings on a near day to day bases. And those reasons are very similar to the ones given for the EU requirement. From: Bell, Chad chad_b...@bose.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable Gary, Here is the response from the FCC on the same question except we asked about adding a ferrite on the power cable. “The power cord with ferrite snaps and clamps for conducted emission compliance has got to be supplied as one unit. That is to say, the ferrite snaps and clamps must be incorporated into the power cord such that the purchaser of the electronic device does not have to put the ferrite snap or clamp onto the power cord when he or she is assembling the device for operation. The reason is that the FCC's historically knows that the buyer or purchaser of the electronic device will not put the ferrite snap or clamp onto the power cord and as a result the manufacturer must incorporate it into the power cord.” Sincerely, Chad Bell From: Myers, Gary [mailto:gary.my...@xerox.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:11 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable EMC Experts, If an ITE product requires a ferrite on an external LAN cable in order to comply with FCC Part 15 and EU EMC Directive requirements, is it legally required that the manufacturer include the LAN cable fitted with the ferrite with the ITE product, or can the manufacturer simply provide the ferrite along with detailed installation instructions for the end user to add the ferrite to his own LAN cable? Thanks, Gary Myers - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com