Re: [PSES] German Required on Product Label to Match China and Nordic for (GS) ?

[John Woodgate]

Clause F.1 of 62368-1 says:

/Unless symbols are used, safety related equipment marking, instructions 
and instructional

safeguards shall be in a language accepted in the respective countries./

No doubt Germany expects German.

On 2024-04-10 17:10, Charlie Blackham wrote:


Rick

I’m not expert on GS certification but Low Voltage Directive Article 6 
required safety instructions to be in a suitable language


7. Manufacturers shall ensure that the electrical equipment is 
accompanied by instructions and safety information in a language which 
can be easily understood by consumers and other end-users, as 
determined by the Member State concerned. Such instructions and safety 
information, as well as any labelling, shall be clear, understandable 
and intelligible.


There’s a similar requirement in RED article 10 and I’m not sure 
whether this document has been published for other Directives, but 
ADCO RED have published “National language requirements of the 
national implementation of the Radio Equipment Directive (RED 
2014/53/EU)” , https://ec.europa.eu/docsroom/documents/46453


Best regards

Charlie**

**

*Charlie Blackham*

*Sulis Consultants Ltd*

*Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317*

*Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ *

Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247

*From:*Rick Linford 
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2024 3:53 PM
*To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
*Subject:* [PSES] German Required on Product Label to Match China and 
Nordic for (GS) ?


Dear EMC-PSTC Pros,

Specific to ITE IEC 62368-1 type standards and German GS 
certification. (many power supplies and ITE product carry GS mark)


Is German language required on products to match the text of other 
countries requirement to obtain German GS?


And (not or) add a statement that non-German text is not important to 
Germany?


China elevation and humidity waring is written into law and is very 
clear. Is there an equivalent German law and or specific German text?


仅适用于海拔2000米以下地区安全使用

仅适用于在非热带气候条件下安全使用

Nordic countries grounded plug warning, is specific to national 
differences in IEC 62368-1. I cannot find German equivalent in IEC 
62368-1:2014, is it there?


Apparaten skall anslutas till jordat uttag.

Apparatet må tilkoples jordet stikkontakt.

Laite on liitettävä suojamaadoituskoskettimilla varustettuun pistorasiaan.

Standard does state to provide safety information and instruction in 
language of use and there is German law it must be in German. This has 
been the case for decades.


A recent GS certification was held up until compliance with adding 
text.  They are marking other countries requirements de facto German 
GS requirement. Already aware German GS is not a legal requirement and 
there many GS issuers. I would have expected PSTC to be lit up 
already, if this was a requirement applied to every manufacturer of 
ITE and AV with GS. Starts now, I guess.


I am representing myself. I am not asking for any past, current or 
future employer.


Linford@IEEE



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Re: [PSES] German Required on Product Label to Match China and Nordic for (GS) ?

[Charlie Blackham]

Rick

I’m not expert on GS certification but Low Voltage Directive Article 6 required 
safety instructions to be in a suitable language

7. Manufacturers shall ensure that the electrical equipment is accompanied by 
instructions and safety information in a language which can be easily 
understood by consumers and other end-users, as determined by the Member State 
concerned. Such instructions and safety information, as well as any labelling, 
shall be clear, understandable and intelligible.

There’s a similar requirement in RED article 10 and I’m not sure whether this 
document has been published for other Directives, but ADCO RED have published 
“National language requirements of the national implementation of the Radio 
Equipment Directive (RED 2014/53/EU)” , 
https://ec.europa.eu/docsroom/documents/46453

Best regards
Charlie

Charlie Blackham
Sulis Consultants Ltd
Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317
Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/
Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247

From: Rick Linford 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 3:53 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] German Required on Product Label to Match China and Nordic for 
(GS) ?

Dear EMC-PSTC Pros,

Specific to ITE IEC 62368-1 type standards and German GS certification. (many 
power supplies and ITE product carry GS mark)
Is German language required on products to match the text of other countries 
requirement to obtain German GS?
And (not or) add a statement that non-German text is not important to Germany?

China elevation and humidity waring is written into law and is very clear. Is 
there an equivalent German law and or specific German text?
仅适用于海拔2000米以下地区安全使用
仅适用于在非热带气候条件下安全使用

Nordic countries grounded plug warning, is specific to national differences in 
IEC 62368-1. I cannot find German equivalent in IEC 62368-1:2014, is it there?
Apparaten skall anslutas till jordat uttag.
Apparatet må tilkoples jordet stikkontakt.
Laite on liitettävä suojamaadoituskoskettimilla varustettuun pistorasiaan.

Standard does state to provide safety information and instruction in language 
of use and there is German law it must be in German. This has been the case for 
decades.

A recent GS certification was held up until compliance with adding text.  They 
are marking other countries requirements de facto German GS requirement. 
Already aware German GS is not a legal requirement and there many GS issuers. I 
would have expected PSTC to be lit up already, if this was a requirement 
applied to every manufacturer of ITE and AV with GS. Starts now, I guess.

I am representing myself. I am not asking for any past, current or future 
employer.
Linford@IEEE


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[PSES] German Required on Product Label to Match China and Nordic for (GS) ?

[Rick Linford]

Dear EMC-PSTC Pros,



Specific to ITE IEC 62368-1 type standards and German GS certification.
(many power supplies and ITE product carry GS mark)

Is German language required on products to match the text of other
countries requirement to obtain German GS?

And (not or) add a statement that non-German text is not important to
Germany?



China elevation and humidity waring is written into law and is very clear.
Is there an equivalent German law and or specific German text?

仅适用于海拔2000米以下地区安全使用

仅适用于在非热带气候条件下安全使用



Nordic countries grounded plug warning, is specific to national differences
in IEC 62368-1. I cannot find German equivalent in IEC 62368-1:2014, is it
there?

Apparaten skall anslutas till jordat uttag.

Apparatet må tilkoples jordet stikkontakt.

Laite on liitettävä suojamaadoituskoskettimilla varustettuun pistorasiaan.



Standard does state to provide safety information and instruction in
language of use and there is German law it must be in German. This has been
the case for decades.



A recent GS certification was held up until compliance with adding text.
They are marking other countries requirements de facto German GS
requirement. Already aware German GS is not a legal requirement and there
many GS issuers. I would have expected PSTC to be lit up already, if this
was a requirement applied to every manufacturer of ITE and AV with GS.
Starts now, I guess.


I am representing myself. I am not asking for any past, current or future
employer.
Linford@IEEE

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