Re: [PSES] UK extends CE mark recognition indefinitely

2023-09-20 Thread Charlie Blackham 
Sam

Those directives are enforced by a different UK government department that 
didn’t put out a press release.

There’s been no further communication on this issue so we’re really waiting to 
see what the draft legislation says when that’s published (whenever that may be)

Best regards
Charlie

Charlie Blackham
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In reviewing this, I don’t see that it addresses RoHS and Ecodesign directives. 
 Would products in scope of these directives still require the UKCA mark by 
December 2024?

SAM Davis
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Customer Engineering Services
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Reporting:  
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/aug/01/uk-eu-safety-mark-brexit-climbdown
 - the funny bit here is that the original article was accompanied by a picture 
of a non-compliant CE logo, as per the final note “The image accompanying this 
article was changed on 1 August 2023, to one of a CE mark that adheres more 
closely to EU guidance on how it should be reproduced”

The [UK] government intends to extend recognition of the CE marking for placing 
most goods on the market in Great Britain, indefinitely, beyond December 2024. 
These updates apply to the 18 regulations that fall under the Department for 
Business and Trade (DBT). These are:

  *   toys
  *   pyrotechnics
  *   recreational craft and personal watercraft
  *   simple pressure vessels
  *   electromagnetic compatibility
  *   non-automatic weighing instruments
  *   measuring instruments
  *   measuring container bottles
  *   lifts
  *   equipment for potentially explosive atmospheres (ATEX)
  *   radio equipment
  *   pressure equipment
  *   personal protective equipment (PPE)
  *   gas appliances
  *   machinery
  *   equipment for use outdoors
  *   aerosols
  *   low voltage electrical equipment
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Re: [PSES] UK extends CE mark recognition indefinitely

2023-09-19 Thread Sam Davis 
In reviewing this, I don’t see that it addresses RoHS and Ecodesign directives. 
 Would products in scope of these directives still require the UKCA mark by 
December 2024?

SAM Davis
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www.jabil.com<https://www.jabil.com/>

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/aug/01/uk-eu-safety-mark-brexit-climbdown
 - the funny bit here is that the original article was accompanied by a picture 
of a non-compliant CE logo, as per the final note “The image accompanying this 
article was changed on 1 August 2023, to one of a CE mark that adheres more 
closely to EU guidance on how it should be reproduced”

The [UK] government intends to extend recognition of the CE marking for placing 
most goods on the market in Great Britain, indefinitely, beyond December 2024. 
These updates apply to the 18 regulations that fall under the Department for 
Business and Trade (DBT). These are:

  *   toys
  *   pyrotechnics
  *   recreational craft and personal watercraft
  *   simple pressure vessels
  *   electromagnetic compatibility
  *   non-automatic weighing instruments
  *   measuring instruments
  *   measuring container bottles
  *   lifts
  *   equipment for potentially explosive atmospheres (ATEX)
  *   radio equipment
  *   pressure equipment
  *   personal protective equipment (PPE)
  *   gas appliances
  *   machinery
  *   equipment for use outdoors
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Re: [PSES] UK extends CE mark recognition indefinitely

2023-08-01 Thread MIKE SHERMAN 
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing!

Has anybody heard any UK thoughts about how the UK will approach the new 
Machinery Regulation, which replaces the Machinery Directive for CE marking?
 
Mike Sherman
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Re: [PSES] UK extends CE mark recognition indefinitely

2023-08-01 Thread Doug Nix 
Thanks, Matthew, this is very helpful!

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> On Aug 1, 2023, at 05:41, Matthew Wilson | GBE 
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> https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukca-marking-conformity-assessment-and-documentation
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> Reporting:  
> https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/aug/01/uk-eu-safety-mark-brexit-climbdown
>  - the funny bit here is that the original article was accompanied by a 
> picture of a non-compliant CE logo, as per the final note “The image 
> accompanying this article was changed on 1 August 2023, to one of a CE mark 
> that adheres more closely to EU guidance on how it should be reproduced”
> 
> The [UK] government intends to extend recognition of the CE marking for 
> placing most goods on the market in Great Britain, indefinitely, beyond 
> December 2024. These updates apply to the 18 regulations that fall under the 
> Department for Business and Trade (DBT). These are:
> 
> toys
> pyrotechnics
> recreational craft and personal watercraft
> simple pressure vessels
> electromagnetic compatibility
> non-automatic weighing instruments
> measuring instruments
> measuring container bottles
> lifts
> equipment for potentially explosive atmospheres (ATEX)
> radio equipment
> pressure equipment
> personal protective equipment (PPE)
> gas appliances
> machinery
> equipment for use outdoors
> aerosols
> low voltage electrical equipment
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Re: [PSES] UK extends CE mark recognition indefinitely

2023-08-01 Thread John Woodgate 
An unusually sensible decision. If it happens in the future that the 
European requirements for a particular product family become 
unacceptable in UK, an exception can be made just for those products, 
leaving CE valid for everything else.


On 2023-08-01 10:41, Matthew Wilson | GBE wrote:


https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukca-marking-conformity-assessment-and-documentation

Reporting: 
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/aug/01/uk-eu-safety-mark-brexit-climbdown 
- the funny bit here is that the original article was accompanied by a 
picture of a non-compliant CE logo, as per the final note “The image 
accompanying this article was changed on 1 August 2023, to one of a CE 
mark that adheres more closely to EU guidance on how it should be 
reproduced”


The [UK] government intends to extend recognition of the CE marking 
for placing most goods on the market in Great Britain, indefinitely, 
beyond December 2024. These updates apply to the 18 regulations that 
fall under the Department for Business and Trade (DBT). These are:


  * toys
  * pyrotechnics
  * recreational craft and personal watercraft
  * simple pressure vessels
  * electromagnetic compatibility
  * non-automatic weighing instruments
  * measuring instruments
  * measuring container bottles
  * lifts
  * equipment for potentially explosive atmospheres (ATEX)
  * radio equipment
  * pressure equipment
  * personal protective equipment (PPE)
  * gas appliances
  * machinery
  * equipment for use outdoors
  * aerosols
  * low voltage electrical equipment

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Re: [PSES] UK extends CE mark recognition indefinitely

2023-08-01 Thread Lauren Crane 
Thanks very much for sharing this!

Best Regards,
- Lauren Crane
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Reporting:  
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/aug/01/uk-eu-safety-mark-brexit-climbdown
 - the funny bit here is that the original article was accompanied by a picture 
of a non-compliant CE logo, as per the final note “The image accompanying this 
article was changed on 1 August 2023, to one of a CE mark that adheres more 
closely to EU guidance on how it should be reproduced”

The [UK] government intends to extend recognition of the CE marking for placing 
most goods on the market in Great Britain, indefinitely, beyond December 2024. 
These updates apply to the 18 regulations that fall under the Department for 
Business and Trade (DBT). These are:

  *   toys
  *   pyrotechnics
  *   recreational craft and personal watercraft
  *   simple pressure vessels
  *   electromagnetic compatibility
  *   non-automatic weighing instruments
  *   measuring instruments
  *   measuring container bottles
  *   lifts
  *   equipment for potentially explosive atmospheres (ATEX)
  *   radio equipment
  *   pressure equipment
  *   personal protective equipment (PPE)
  *   gas appliances
  *   machinery
  *   equipment for use outdoors
  *   aerosols
  *   low voltage electrical equipment

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[PSES] UK extends CE mark recognition indefinitely

2023-08-01 Thread Matthew Wilson | GBE 
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ukca-marking-conformity-assessment-and-documentation

Reporting:  
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/aug/01/uk-eu-safety-mark-brexit-climbdown
 - the funny bit here is that the original article was accompanied by a picture 
of a non-compliant CE logo, as per the final note "The image accompanying this 
article was changed on 1 August 2023, to one of a CE mark that adheres more 
closely to EU guidance on how it should be reproduced"

The [UK] government intends to extend recognition of the CE marking for placing 
most goods on the market in Great Britain, indefinitely, beyond December 2024. 
These updates apply to the 18 regulations that fall under the Department for 
Business and Trade (DBT). These are:

  *   toys
  *   pyrotechnics
  *   recreational craft and personal watercraft
  *   simple pressure vessels
  *   electromagnetic compatibility
  *   non-automatic weighing instruments
  *   measuring instruments
  *   measuring container bottles
  *   lifts
  *   equipment for potentially explosive atmospheres (ATEX)
  *   radio equipment
  *   pressure equipment
  *   personal protective equipment (PPE)
  *   gas appliances
  *   machinery
  *   equipment for use outdoors
  *   aerosols
  *   low voltage electrical equipment

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