Re: [PSES] add 60950 to a new supplier's product which only has FCC?

[Adam Dixon]

Jim, Rich and all who replied,

Thanks for the feedback.  There is no intentional transmitter.  I don't
believe it's a case of wanting to hide Company A -- it appears to be a case
of economics and differing views of safety & liability,which has surprised
me a bit.


Cheers,
Adam


On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Jim Bacher  wrote:

> Adam,  depends on how well you want company A hidden from company B's
> customers. As Rich commented on safety I will comment on FCC.
>
> On the FCC depends on whether there is a transmitter involved as to what
> path can be used and how to address.  If there is no transmitter,  you can
> just issue a cover letter explaining the difference between the two
> versions of the product and why the first report is valid.  If you are
> trying to hide the first company,  most labs for a fee will rewrite the
> report listing company B instead of company A in a new set of reports.  The
> labs will want copies of agreements and other paper work to make sure it is
> only labels/model numbers that are different.
>
> Jim
>
> On Jan 29, 2017 4:18 PM, "Adam Dixon"  wrote:
>
>> Similar to last year's Company A/B Multiple Listee for CE discussion, is
>> there a good path to take a finished product built by Company A which only
>> has FCC certification and have Company B add 60950 safety certification?
>> Seems like it should be an "all or nothing" proposition (i.e. Company B
>> repeats FCC?) for proper traceability in the North American market similar
>> to the final relationships and checks that Rodney, Charlie and Steve mapped
>> out for the EU.  Thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Adam
>>
>>
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Re: [PSES] add 60950 to a new supplier's product which only has FCC?

[Jim Bacher]

Adam,  depends on how well you want company A hidden from company B's
customers. As Rich commented on safety I will comment on FCC.

On the FCC depends on whether there is a transmitter involved as to what
path can be used and how to address.  If there is no transmitter,  you can
just issue a cover letter explaining the difference between the two
versions of the product and why the first report is valid.  If you are
trying to hide the first company,  most labs for a fee will rewrite the
report listing company B instead of company A in a new set of reports.  The
labs will want copies of agreements and other paper work to make sure it is
only labels/model numbers that are different.

Jim

On Jan 29, 2017 4:18 PM, "Adam Dixon"  wrote:

> Similar to last year's Company A/B Multiple Listee for CE discussion, is
> there a good path to take a finished product built by Company A which only
> has FCC certification and have Company B add 60950 safety certification?
> Seems like it should be an "all or nothing" proposition (i.e. Company B
> repeats FCC?) for proper traceability in the North American market similar
> to the final relationships and checks that Rodney, Charlie and Steve mapped
> out for the EU.  Thoughts?
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
>
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Re: [PSES] add 60950 to a new supplier's product which only has FCC?

[Richard Nute]

 

Hi Adam:

 

Company B can submit the product for 60950 certification.  There will be some 
paperwork to recognize that the product is built by company A.  Follow-up 
inspections will need to be at the factory, which will require more paperwork.  
 

 

I can’t speak to FCC certification, except to say the safety and FCC 
certifications are independent of each other.

 

Rich

 

 

From: Adam Dixon [mailto:lanterna.viri...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:18 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] add 60950 to a new supplier's product which only has FCC?

 

Similar to last year's Company A/B Multiple Listee for CE discussion, is there 
a good path to take a finished product built by Company A which only has FCC 
certification and have Company B add 60950 safety certification?  Seems like it 
should be an "all or nothing" proposition (i.e. Company B repeats FCC?) for 
proper traceability in the North American market similar to the final 
relationships and checks that Rodney, Charlie and Steve mapped out for the EU.  
Thoughts?

Cheers,

Adam 

 

 


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[PSES] add 60950 to a new supplier's product which only has FCC?

[Adam Dixon]

Similar to last year's Company A/B Multiple Listee for CE discussion, is
there a good path to take a finished product built by Company A which only
has FCC certification and have Company B add 60950 safety certification?
Seems like it should be an "all or nothing" proposition (i.e. Company B
repeats FCC?) for proper traceability in the North American market similar
to the final relationships and checks that Rodney, Charlie and Steve mapped
out for the EU.  Thoughts?

Cheers,
Adam

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