Re: [PSES] use of AC contactor in PV application in US/CAN

2014-03-14 Thread Peter Tarver
 From: Boštjan Glavič
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 01:01

 Is anyone familiar if it is allowed to use a contactor
 instead of circuit breaker in PV application to disconnect
 inverter from the grid?

 NEC in Article 690 does not specify it precisely.

 What standard needs to comply this contactor?


A circuit breaker is not required to be used as the disconnect device for
the grid, but branch circuit overcurrent protection is required, so it's
convenient to use a circuit breaker.  Aldous gave you the relevant
standards for contactors.

Many fire marshals require a separate disconnect switch for inverter
output connections to the grid.  Whether or not this switch can operate
a contactor will depend on the jurisdiction involved.


Regards,

Peter Tarver


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[PSES] use of AC contactor in PV application in US/CAN

2014-03-13 Thread Boštjan Glavič
Dear Experts,

Is anyone familiar if it is allowed to use a contactor instead of circuit 
breaker in PV application to disconnect inverter from the grid?

NEC in Article 690 does not specify it precisely.

What standard needs to comply this contactor?

Best regards,

Boštjan Glavič
Safety and Electromagnetics
Laboratory of Electronic Engineering
Head of Laboratory
SIQ, Tržaška cesta 2
SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia
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Re: [PSES] use of AC contactor in PV application in US/CAN

2014-03-13 Thread Aldous, Scott
Clause 13.1 from UL 1741 and 690.17 from the 2011 NEC both require that 
disconnects consist of a manually operated switch or circuit breaker (this part 
of 2014 NEC has been modified). It may be a bit of a judgment call as to 
whether a contactor can meet the intent of these requirements. As least some 
folks have judged that it can on the PV side, since there are combiner boxes on 
the market now that use a contactor instead of a traditional disconnect switch 
or circuit breaker. Here is one example with a photo showing the Gigavac 
contactor inside with a manually operated switch in the coil circuit:

http://www.solarbos.com/products/combiner-boxes/arc-fault-combiner-boxes

This combiner box was listed to UL 1741 by ETL. 

It is important not to touch a circuit isolated this way without first 
verifying with a meter that it is safe.

This type of contactor is typically certified to UL 508 for the USA market 
though this should be moving to the UL 60947 standards going forward. 

I am not aware of any application that currently uses this sort of arrangement 
on the AC side. There are additional requirements for the AC side disconnect 
since this is the PV system disconnect from the grid, often as part of 
interconnect requirements imposed by utilities. The Canadian code, 84-024, 
requires a visible blade arrangement for verification of disconnection if 
required by the supply authority. Utilities often require the visible blade.

Scott Aldous
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Subject: [PSES] use of AC contactor in PV application in US/CAN

Dear Experts,

Is anyone familiar if it is allowed to use a contactor instead of circuit 
breaker in PV application to disconnect inverter from the grid?

NEC in Article 690 does not specify it precisely.

What standard needs to comply this contactor?

Best regards,

Boštjan Glavič
Safety and Electromagnetics
Laboratory of Electronic Engineering
Head of Laboratory
SIQ, Tržaška cesta 2
SI-1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia
T: + 386 (0)1 47 78 265
F: + 386 (0)1 47 78 444
E-Mail: bostjan.gla...@siq.si

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