Re: Conducted Rf Failures...fixes?

2002-10-08 Thread JPR3
In a message dated 10/8/2002, Alex McNeil writes:


> As I am in panic mode, is there some guidance out there for me e.g. is it
> usually a matter of changing the interface IC's or hanging special
> components onto the lines?
> 


Hi Alex:

This test is indeed a difficult one to pass, but in general the 
transformer-type interfaces that you are dealing with are less susceptible 
than some other types.  I have seen ISDN and Ethernet interfaces pass this 
test without the need for extreme measures.  In the absence of more specific 
information about your situation, I can offer just a few general guidelines:

1) EN 55024 allows you to use either a CDN or a clamp to induce the RF.  Some 
people find that they get more favorable results with the clamp than with the 
CDN.

2) The interference is applied common mode.  In *theory* your transformer 
coupled interfaces will have fairly good common mode rejection, but this can 
be compromised by a bad layout or by some types of surge protection devices.

3) If you have to add some filtering to pass, adding a common mode choke is a 
good first step toward reducing susceptibility.  Adding caps from each 
conductor to chassis ground also helps, especially if used in conjunction 
with a common mode choke, with the choke on the line side of the caps.  Note, 
however, that high value caps can interfere with proper operation of the 
circuit.



Joe Randolph
Telecom Design Consultant
Randolph Telecom, Inc.
781-721-2848
http://www.randolph-telecom.com



Conducted Rf Failures...fixes?

2002-10-08 Thread Alex McNeil

Hi Forum,

In the past I have mainly been involved in debugging emissions, ESD and EFT
etc. But I have never come across trying to fix ISDN and LAN "applying noise
onto the cables" failures due to conducted RF of 3V/M
(EN55024/EN612000-4-6), as this is new to my types of product. The ISDN line
only fails at frequencies less than 500KHz i.e. OK up to 80MHz. The LAN
tends to fail in the 28MHz region.
As I am in panic mode, is there some guidance out there for me e.g. is it
usually a matter of changing the interface IC's or hanging special
components onto the lines?

I know it is difficult to try and resolve EMC issues online but all I am
looking for is some guidance and things to try.

Your help and guidance is very much appreciated.

THANKS in advance!

Best Regards
ALEX McNEIL
Ingenico Fortronic Ltd.
alex.mcn...@ingenicofortronic.com

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