Re: [PSES] China Country of Origin Requirements
I have been seeing increased enforcement to ensure products have the appropriate Country of Origin (COO) labeling on electrical products as well as accessories and chemical products sold on the market. There seems to be a lot of variation with how COO labeling is conducted and countries such as China and Korea want to ensure it is correct along with USA FTC (Federal Trade Commission) requirements. Best Regards, Ken Kapur Director, Global Product Compliance Thermo Fisher Scientific ken.ka...@thermofisher.com From: Mike Home Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:13 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] China Country of Origin Requirements CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Thermo Fisher Scientific. If you believe it to be suspicious, report using the Report Phish button in Outlook or send to s...@thermofisher.com. Steve — We haven’t run into Chinese COO requirements yet, but we pretty religiously mark our products. If you’re shipping electrical components into the PRC, be aware of the CCC mark, which is administered by tariff code and seems to be enforced. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2020, at 7:58 PM, sgbrody mailto:sgbr...@comcast.net>> wrote: Hi fellow gurus, A client has asked me if China requires country of origin labels on imported products, specifically electrical manufacturing products and/or components. Any information greatly appreciated. Tou can respond openly here or privately to me at stev...@productehsconsulting.com<mailto:stev...@productehsconsulting.com>. Thanks, and stay safe and healthy, Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ieee-2Dpses.org_emc-2Dpstc.html=DwMFaQ=q6k2DsTcEGCcCb_WtVSz6hhIl8hvYssy7sH8ZwfbbKU=ceEGfRfAATRLvrDpw-fh33haojLMnxrxQT1JC9iGxE0=pVL3t4FbugMlTgc76FbuPzFlm8BUsM_5bsXXVwVOfYc=e0GpNy3NY2ipTD08lmChP9JoLSJTNVU8gTw_l02H0-A=> Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__product-2Dcompliance.oc.ieee.org_=DwMFaQ=q6k2DsTcEGCcCb_WtVSz6hhIl8hvYssy7sH8ZwfbbKU=ceEGfRfAATRLvrDpw-fh33haojLMnxrxQT1JC9iGxE0=pVL3t4FbugMlTgc76FbuPzFlm8BUsM_5bsXXVwVOfYc=Lw1RcsgmTCB6Pq931fYxzgqQQRdZl06Y-4bXQZjLG_0=> can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ieee-2Dpses.org_=DwMFaQ=q6k2DsTcEGCcCb_WtVSz6hhIl8hvYssy7sH8ZwfbbKU=ceEGfRfAATRLvrDpw-fh33haojLMnxrxQT1JC9iGxE0=pVL3t4FbugMlTgc76FbuPzFlm8BUsM_5bsXXVwVOfYc=LVxUd-zXCMe62XIlIY5v140j-O8uhCEgmiL_1nPDzfE=> Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ieee-2Dpses.org_list.html=DwMFaQ=q6k2DsTcEGCcCb_WtVSz6hhIl8hvYssy7sH8ZwfbbKU=ceEGfRfAATRLvrDpw-fh33haojLMnxrxQT1JC9iGxE0=pVL3t4FbugMlTgc76FbuPzFlm8BUsM_5bsXXVwVOfYc=DWs6WP4SqzncSlLQn60UR9YICj3bqu08vGFAWkzmRHY=> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ieee-2Dpses.org_listrules.html=DwMFaQ=q6k2DsTcEGCcCb_WtVSz6hhIl8hvYssy7sH8ZwfbbKU=ceEGfRfAATRLvrDpw-fh33haojLMnxrxQT1JC9iGxE0=pVL3t4FbugMlTgc76FbuPzFlm8BUsM_5bsXXVwVOfYc=HFAtynF-Yc0AeI0gZBSu81_d8jd74QMH2GOXkF1tuV0=> For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.ieee-2Dpses.org_emc-2Dpstc.html=DwMFaQ=q6k2DsTcEGCcCb_WtVSz6hhIl8hvYssy7sH8ZwfbbKU=ceEGfRfAATRLvrDpw-fh33haojLMnxrxQT1JC9iGxE0=pVL3t4FbugMlTgc76FbuPzFlm8BUsM_5bsXXVwVOfYc=e0GpNy3NY2ipTD08lmChP9JoLSJTNVU8gTw_l02H0-A=> Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__product-2Dcompliance.oc.ieee.org_=DwMFaQ=q6k2DsTcEGCcCb_WtVSz6hhIl8hvYssy7sH8ZwfbbKU=ceEGfRfAATRLvrDpw-fh33haojLMnxrxQT1JC9iGxE0=pVL3t4FbugMlTgc76FbuPzFlm8BUsM_5bsXXVwVOfY
Re: [PSES] China Country of Origin Requirements
Steve — We haven’t run into Chinese COO requirements yet, but we pretty religiously mark our products. If you’re shipping electrical components into the PRC, be aware of the CCC mark, which is administered by tariff code and seems to be enforced. Mike Sherman Graco Inc. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2020, at 7:58 PM, sgbrody wrote: > > > Hi fellow gurus, > > A client has asked me if China requires country of origin labels on imported > products, specifically electrical manufacturing products and/or components. > > Any information greatly appreciated. Tou can respond openly here or > privately to me at stev...@productehsconsulting.com. > > Thanks, and stay safe and healthy, > > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > - > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to > > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > > Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at > http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used > formats), large files, etc. > > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to > unsubscribe) > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Scott Douglas > Mike Cantwell > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher > David Heald - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
[PSES] China Country of Origin Requirements
Hi fellow gurus,A client has asked me if China requires country of origin labels on imported products, specifically electrical manufacturing products and/or components.Any information greatly appreciated. Tou can respond openly here or privately to me at stev...@productehsconsulting.com.Thanks, and stay safe and healthy, Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
RE: Country of origin information
Richard, I beg to differ! I have been into this in some detail in the past. The UK position is simple - country of origin information is not required to appear on the product itself, but where it is provided it must be accurate and not misleading. This information will be required for the purposes of customs documents and bills of lading, but it is not required to appear on products when they are presented to consumers. In fact, in Europe, the display of country or origin information is in some cases discouraged since in some cases (especially regarding food) it is seen as a restraint on trade to encourage the purchase of local produce at the expense of produce from other member states. Certainly, this is not permitted at a state level, although I believe that there is little the authorities can do to to prevent individual retailers providing such information to their customers. Regards Nick. At 10:10 -0500 30/1/03, richwo...@tycoint.com wrote: The country of origin marking on a product is a customs requirement in many or most countries. I know for a fact that it is required for imports into the UK. Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International -Original Message- From: Carpentier Kristiaan [mailto:carpenti...@thmulti.com] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:37 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Country of origin information Hello group, Is there any European or National requirement for IT or telecom products sold in Europe to display the country of origin on the product label or package? Thanks and regards, Kris This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Country of origin information
The country of origin marking on a product is a customs requirement in many or most countries. I know for a fact that it is required for imports into the UK. Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International From: Carpentier Kristiaan [mailto:carpenti...@thmulti.com] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:37 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Country of origin information Hello group, Is there any European or National requirement for IT or telecom products sold in Europe to display the country of origin on the product label or package? Thanks and regards, Kris This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Country of origin information
Hello group, Is there any European or National requirement for IT or telecom products sold in Europe to display the country of origin on the product label or package? Thanks and regards, Kris This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Country of Origin/Made in xxx-Revisited
To all, The recent threads on Country of Origin and Made in xxx brought up many questions on this subject. So, I did some research. I appeared to get some answers and also created some more questions. Hopefully, members of the group can confirm or disagree with the items listed below. 1. US International Trade Commission (USITC) Requirements--According to the information I have obtained, there are no requirements for products being exported from the US. The Country of Origin requirements only pertain to products that are imported into the US. Do you agree? How does this requirement work for a US manufacturer that also has products built in another country such as Singapore? Do we need to mark the products manufactured in Singapore with Country of Origin for shipment into the US? 2. North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Requirements--If your product meets the preference criteria A-F as defined by the Agreement, you create a Certificate of Origin to get preferential tariff treatment. The US, Canada and Mexico all have their own Country of Origin marking requirements. Agree?? 3. US Federal Trade Commission Made in USA requirements--In order to label a product Made in USA, the product must be substantially all made in the US. A product will be considered substantially all made in the US if the product was last substantially transformed in the US and US manufacturing cost are at least 75% of total manufacturing costs; OR the product was last substantially transformed in the US and all significant parts were last substantially transformed in the US (substantially transformed refers to a manufacturing process that results in a new and different article of commerce, having a new name, character and use.) Agree?? 4. Countries other than the US Country of Origin Requirements--Does anybody have a list of Country of Origin marking requirements for various countries?? All responses are greatly appreciated. Regards Joe Martin --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Country of Origin
Greetings: Our company is currently reviewing its compliance with the Country of Origin requirements administered by the US International Trade Commission. We have been told from a consultant that we need to improve our program. Based on these recommendations, we have created two phases. Phase 1 - Add Country of Origin identifiers for all shippable products including end-use instrumentation and service kits. This identifier would be in the form of a marking. Phase 2 - Add Country of Origin identifiers on all piece parts which make-up the instruments. For example, screws, tubing, power supplies, etc. This identifier would be an update to our documentation data base. Although there seems to be so some merit for Phase 1, Phase 2 seems extensive. We use more than 30,000 parts in our product lines. How do most companies deal with this requirement? Has anyone been audited to this requirement? How extensive was the audit? Can anyone provide any background as to the intent of this regulation? All opinions are appreciated. Regards, Mark Sweeny Manager, Compliance Engineering Applied Biosystems --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Country of Origin
I couldn't help but share this with you . . . The following text appeared on the package for a semiconductor that I received today . . . Made in one or more of the following countries: China, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, Taiwan, Malaysia, South Korea, Philipines, Singapore, Thailand, United Kingdom. The exact country of origin is not known. LOL That narrows it down . . . That definitely would NOT fly on a power supply . . . John Juhasz Fiber Options Bohemia, NY
Re: Country of origin
In the US, the Laser Safety Regulations, 21 CFR 1010.3, requires place and date of manufacture. Place can be in a coded format as long as the code key is supplied to the CDRH. Scott s_doug...@ecrm.com kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com writes: Dear groupe, This question is not a safety or EMC issue but I think that some of you have been involved in something like this before. On the label with compliance information we normally also add something like : Country of origin or Made in this is required by some of the EU directives and others (normally just the country of the main company who have the legal responsibility. ) But my questions are; -what is the rules for this information, is it just country of the company or is it the country where it is assembled, and what if it is partly made in different countries ? -which authoryties requires this informations other than EU directives (and FCC part 68) Best regards, Mr. Kim Boll Jensen i-data, Denmark - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Country of origin
Having asked this question of Trading Standards officers on several occasions (for various reasons), I am here to tell you that, in the UK at least, there is no legal obligation to put the country of manufacture on any goods, whether made in the UK, EU, USA or anywhere else. However, if you do put an origin mark on, it has to be correct and not misleading within the terms of the various acts concerning sale of goods, trades descriptions etc. There is NO legal definition of 'manufacture' in the UK, although your definition as 'final point of assembly' is, I know, acceptable to UK Trading Standards. They will also accept (at a pinch) operations which are essentially simply final insertion of goods made 'overseas' (a UK-centric term, I accept) with accessories into packaging. Quite what HM Customs and Excise want for import duty calculation purposes is another matter entirely. They are (almost literally) a law unto themselves. I would not be surprised (cf separate posting from Gray McInturff) to discover that they wanted to know the origin(s) of the components and to apportion 'place of manufacture' accordingly. Nick. At 08:13 -0400 13/4/99, WOODS, RICHARD wrote: My company has for years produced products in Puerto Rico and has labeled our products as made in the USA. A couple of years ago, UK customs decided in their own wisdom that Puerto Rico is not part of the USA and that our products must be labeled made in Puerto Rico. So, to answer your question, the final assembly point is the point of manufacture. But as you can see from my example, what we really have here is a political situation. So in reality, any country can require you to label as they see fit. I have noticed that on cars sold in the US, there is an explanation on the sticker as to what was manufactured where. Other countries may have this requirement for some types of products. However, we have not encountered this need for office equipment. - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Country of origin
FCC Part 68 requires the wording Made in_ -Original Message- From: Russell, Ray [SMTP:ray_russ...@gastmfg.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 9:09 AM To: 'kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com'; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Country of origin Greetings, I always understood that it was Customs that required the statement as to the country of origin. I believe it has to do with tariffs. I also believe that for the US the NAFTA agreement spells out if it can say made or assembled in by how much of the material is of that countries origin. Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -Original Message- From: kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com [mailto:kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 3:39 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Country of origin Dear groupe, This question is not a safety or EMC issue but I think that some of you have been involved in something like this before. On the label with compliance information we normally also add something like : Country of origin or Made in this is required by some of the EU directives and others (normally just the country of the main company who have the legal responsibility. ) But my questions are; -what is the rules for this information, is it just country of the company or is it the country where it is assembled, and what if it is partly made in different countries ? -which authoryties requires this informations other than EU directives (and FCC part 68) Best regards, Mr. Kim Boll Jensen i-data, Denmark - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: Country of origin
Country of Origin rules in the US are set by the department of commerce. They are enforced by the FCC and by US customs. Their origin dates back to the 60's when something called the Buy America act was passed by Congress. There are specific meanings and requirements to: 1)Made in USA, (must have a certain % content of US) 2)Assembled in USA (if the content is less than 1)and, 3)Manufactured using components from one or more of the following countries The exact details escape me at the time and you would have to consult with an import broker to get the current requirements and exact wording. Hans === Best Regards Hans Mellberg EMC Consultant _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
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Posted for Chris Allen: From: Chris Allen chris_al...@eur.3com.com Subject: RE: Country of origin Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:42:37 +0100 To: emc-p...@ieee.org I find the problem given below a little tenuous, as Puerto Rico is a country in it's own right and a commonwealth of the US, not one of the States. However, I would be only too happy to agree with Richard's approach as I could claim that as part of the British Commonwealth, that my products were manufactured in Canada (although independent), who already have active MOUs/MRAs with the US thus avoiding the long wait for the legislation to be put in place between the US and Europe. On the other hand, manufacturers in Canada, Australia, St. Kitts and Nevis etc. might like to claim that they are part of Europe using this route the other way round. Actually if we think about this long enough, I am sure we could end up with a single world-wide market very quickly !! Regards, with tongue firmly planted in cheek, Chris. WOODS, RICHARD wo...@sensormatic.com on 13/04/99 13:13:21 Please respond to WOODS, RICHARD wo...@sensormatic.com To: emc-p...@ieee.org cc:(Chris Allen/GB/3Com) Subject: RE: Country of origin My company has for years produced products in Puerto Rico and has labeled our products as made in the USA. A couple of years ago, UK customs decided in their own wisdom that Puerto Rico is not part of the USA and that our products must be labeled made in Puerto Rico. So, to answer your question, the final assembly point is the point of manufacture. But as you can see from my example, what we really have here is a political situation. So in reality, any country can require you to label as they see fit. I have noticed that on cars sold in the US, there is an explanation on the sticker as to what was manufactured where. Other countries may have this requirement for some types of products. However, we have not encountered this need for office equipment. -- From: kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com [SMTP:kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 3:39 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Country of origin Dear groupe, This question is not a safety or EMC issue but I think that some of you have been involved in something like this before. On the label with compliance information we normally also add something like : Country of origin or Made in this is required by some of the EU directives and others (normally just the country of the main company who have the legal responsibility. ) But my questions are; -what is the rules for this information, is it just country of the company or is it the country where it is assembled, and what if it is partly made in different countries ? -which authoryties requires this informations other than EU directives (and FCC part 68) Best regards, Mr. Kim Boll Jensen i-data, Denmark - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). ---End of Original Message- -- Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA. USA 619-505-2780 List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 04/13/1999 Time: 08:33:42 Military Avionics EMC Services Our Specialty Also Environmental / Metrology / Reliability -- - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
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Not an answer to the question but this might be useful to someone A company I used to work for manufactured some of its products in China. They believed that the US market did not like the word China so the printed Made in RoC on the products. US customs objected to this and after some careful and expensive research they found that for products exported to the United States, only Made in the Republic of China was acceptable. Chris Colgan EMC Safety TAG McLaren Audio Ltd mailto:chris.col...@tagmclarenaudio.com = Authorised on 04/13/99 at 17:00:30; code 369dae64803B9038. - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
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Actually, it gets worse than this. Its been awhile so I don't have all of the particulars, but you actually have to add the cost of all of the components and assembly time into the product at its various assembly stages. For the US for example their has to be some percentage of material that was purchased from an American Corporation. This percentage fluctuated depending on the US work content - US assembly hours for example. Combined in the proper mix one could then say it was made in the USA. Of course many Japanese companies simply inflated the assembly COGS to get around the rules, and I'm sure other did as well. The biggest impact on where its made, other than consumer preferences, was when selling to the governments. They generally have some comments on what they buy and from whom. Gary -Original Message- From: WOODS, RICHARD [SMTP:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 5:13 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject:RE: Country of origin My company has for years produced products in Puerto Rico and has labeled our products as made in the USA. A couple of years ago, UK customs decided in their own wisdom that Puerto Rico is not part of the USA and that our products must be labeled made in Puerto Rico. So, to answer your question, the final assembly point is the point of manufacture. But as you can see from my example, what we really have here is a political situation. So in reality, any country can require you to label as they see fit. I have noticed that on cars sold in the US, there is an explanation on the sticker as to what was manufactured where. Other countries may have this requirement for some types of products. However, we have not encountered this need for office equipment. -- From: kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com [SMTP:kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 3:39 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Country of origin Dear groupe, This question is not a safety or EMC issue but I think that some of you have been involved in something like this before. On the label with compliance information we normally also add something like : Country of origin or Made in this is required by some of the EU directives and others (normally just the country of the main company who have the legal responsibility. ) But my questions are; -what is the rules for this information, is it just country of the company or is it the country where it is assembled, and what if it is partly made in different countries ? -which authoryties requires this informations other than EU directives (and FCC part 68) Best regards, Mr. Kim Boll Jensen i-data, Denmark - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
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Greetings, I always understood that it was Customs that required the statement as to the country of origin. I believe it has to do with tariffs. I also believe that for the US the NAFTA agreement spells out if it can say made or assembled in by how much of the material is of that countries origin. Ray Russell ray_russ...@gastmfg.com -Original Message- From: kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com [mailto:kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 3:39 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Country of origin Dear groupe, This question is not a safety or EMC issue but I think that some of you have been involved in something like this before. On the label with compliance information we normally also add something like : Country of origin or Made in this is required by some of the EU directives and others (normally just the country of the main company who have the legal responsibility. ) But my questions are; -what is the rules for this information, is it just country of the company or is it the country where it is assembled, and what if it is partly made in different countries ? -which authoryties requires this informations other than EU directives (and FCC part 68) Best regards, Mr. Kim Boll Jensen i-data, Denmark - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Country of origin
My company has for years produced products in Puerto Rico and has labeled our products as made in the USA. A couple of years ago, UK customs decided in their own wisdom that Puerto Rico is not part of the USA and that our products must be labeled made in Puerto Rico. So, to answer your question, the final assembly point is the point of manufacture. But as you can see from my example, what we really have here is a political situation. So in reality, any country can require you to label as they see fit. I have noticed that on cars sold in the US, there is an explanation on the sticker as to what was manufactured where. Other countries may have this requirement for some types of products. However, we have not encountered this need for office equipment. -- From: kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com [SMTP:kim.boll.jen...@i-data.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 3:39 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Country of origin Dear groupe, This question is not a safety or EMC issue but I think that some of you have been involved in something like this before. On the label with compliance information we normally also add something like : Country of origin or Made in this is required by some of the EU directives and others (normally just the country of the main company who have the legal responsibility. ) But my questions are; -what is the rules for this information, is it just country of the company or is it the country where it is assembled, and what if it is partly made in different countries ? -which authoryties requires this informations other than EU directives (and FCC part 68) Best regards, Mr. Kim Boll Jensen i-data, Denmark - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Country of origin
Dear groupe, This question is not a safety or EMC issue but I think that some of you have been involved in something like this before. On the label with compliance information we normally also add something like : Country of origin or Made in this is required by some of the EU directives and others (normally just the country of the main company who have the legal responsibility. ) But my questions are; -what is the rules for this information, is it just country of the company or is it the country where it is assembled, and what if it is partly made in different countries ? -which authoryties requires this informations other than EU directives (and FCC part 68) Best regards, Mr. Kim Boll Jensen i-data, Denmark - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
