Re: Decisions/Choices Vote of thanks
I read in !emc-pstc that Gregg Kervill gkerv...@eu-link.com wrote (in 012d01c16f8e$794e5360$7300a8c0@MENHADEN) about 'Decisions/Choices Vote of thanks', on Sat, 17 Nov 2001: That way we can all choose to visit John and ask for technical help without having to be cautious not to risk offending he and being flamed. I HAVE NEVER FLAMED ANYONE, ON THIS GROUP OR ANYWHERE ELSE. Furthermore, I am never offended for more than 1 s by anything I receive from the net. There is just no point in being offended; it doesn't change a thing, except one's blood-pressure! I have just received 96 spam messages from someone wanting to sell me software services. I don't get mad, I just get even; I never do business with spammers. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: Decisions/Choices Vote of thanks
Dear All, Sorry if this is out of place - I have been out for a day and am going through messages in reverse order... I would like to support what Doug has said - moderating a user group is a thankless task - it requires enormous personal effort, not just with the technical issues - but in the politics of moderating. Even within a tightly controlled arena it can be a minefield, as anyone who has done the job will know. Therefore - if someone has not done so already - here is a vote of thanks for the moderators and administrators without whose efforts this discussion could not take place. T H A N KY O U There are - as John points out - many wrong answers - and as he has demonstrated - many ways to offend. We all need to accept that some of us are offended by incorrect statements, but rudeness is never justified - and being English I do not accept the 'misunderstanding' claim. Being right is not reason enough to be rude. Maybe John should start his own site for information. I believe that the domain www.flame.com is available. That way we can all choose to visit John and ask for technical help without having to be cautious not to risk offending he and being flamed. Sorry If I am wasting bandwidth repeating what has been said already. Best regards Gregg -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Doug McKean Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:05 PM To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group Subject: Re: Decisions/Choices Let's keep a perspective here. Whether you wish to accept it or not, we are all members of this list because we agree to the terms of being a member of this list. The administrators can be as dragonian or libertarian as they wish. Thankfully they aren't on both accounts. I think they do a good job as administrators and I think John did a good job as a member. But things happen. I don't know nor do I want to know what happened off-line. But, as far as I'm concerned, John made the decision to leave and left of his own accord. He was not tossed off the list. So with all due respect, email John offline and ask him to come back if you wish. If he does, he does. If he doesn't, then he doesn't. And that's that. But, let's move onto something else, please. Regards, Doug McKean --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
Re: Decisions/Choices
Let's keep a perspective here. Whether you wish to accept it or not, we are all members of this list because we agree to the terms of being a member of this list. The administrators can be as dragonian or libertarian as they wish. Thankfully they aren't on both accounts. I think they do a good job as administrators and I think John did a good job as a member. But things happen. I don't know nor do I want to know what happened off-line. But, as far as I'm concerned, John made the decision to leave and left of his own accord. He was not tossed off the list. So with all due respect, email John offline and ask him to come back if you wish. If he does, he does. If he doesn't, then he doesn't. And that's that. But, let's move onto something else, please. Regards, Doug McKean --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: Decisions/Choices
Dear Colleagues, Today is Friday, seems to me that all of us are very tired, and the last couple of months stressed us more than we expected... In my opinion, the ADMINISTRATORS of this VERY PROFESSIONAL GROUP deserves 100% OUR Respect. The emc-pstc Discussion List is like a game: with PLAYERS, with RULES and with REFEREES... It is our choice to play or not, but IF we are playing it, then ALL OF US shall respect the rules, the players and the referees. It was our acceptance when we entered the arena to display an outstanding FAIR PLAY during each and every discussion, and to do not comment any of the referees decisions. It will make the difference between us, and others. I would suggest to close this subject and to continue our discussions on emc and pstc. Have a great weekend everybody. The Life is beautiful ! Enjoy it! Respectfully yours, Constantin Constantin Bolintineanu P.Eng. DIGITAL SECURITY CONTROLS LTD. 3301 LANGSTAFF Road, L4K 4L2 CONCORD, ONTARIO, CANADA e-mail: bolin...@dscltd.com telephone: 905 760 3000 ext 2568 Visit our web site at www.dscgrp.com -Original Message- From: geor...@lexmark.com [mailto:geor...@lexmark.com] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:19 PM To: Gary McInturff Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Decisions/Choices Gary, Thanks for going first! I agree with your comments. The worthy administrators of this forum are charged not only with the day-to-day administration of the forum, but with maintaining the established rules for its use. In some cases they must use some judgement and make tough calls to preserve both the letter and intent of those rules. I have personally received a few off-line notes from time to time suggesting that a particular discussion is a bit outside the intent of the forum. As a participant, I feel this is their call. Each of us subscribes and participates to the degree that we choose. Many of us at one time or another may have offended others, or been offended by others. In any case, the choice to continue one's participation is personal. John has chosen not to participate, as he feels he was offended. This is his choice, and I respect his right to make that choice based on his personal beliefs etc. I am certain that John would feel the same way if someone un-subscribed because they were offended by John. John (if you're still out there), all agree on your technical competence, and willingness to share your expertise. However, the recent onslaught of notes, many of which involved hair-splitting, were beginning to wear on my nerves. I encourage you to rejoin us in this worthwhile exchange of ideas, but cut us a little slack on the hair-splitting. George Alspaugh --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
