Equations for twisted-pair (was Re: Zo)

2001-02-13 Thread beydu
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Hi! Robert:

I'm very interested in the emperical equations that you have for twisted-pair.
Do you mind sharing this with me ?

Thanks in advance

Perry Qu

Robert Macy wrote:

 Did you find out what you need?

 Somewhere around here I have the equations that closely approximate twisted
 pair for 26 Awg and 28 Awg wire from DC to 10MHz.  They were derived from
 empirical modeling.  You can make various approximations to simplify their
 use.

 That includes impedance, loss per length vs frequency, etc.

 I don't think they take into account being close to conductors, like a
 shield, or crosstalk between pairs, because that's another analysis, but
 they're *extremely* useful for predicting attenuation versus frequency for
 analyzing the expected performance one will get from DSL modems.

  - Robert -

Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com
408 286 3985  fx 408 297 9121
AJM International Electronics Consultants
619 North First St,   San Jose, CA  95112

 -Original Message-
 From: William D'Orazio dora...@cae.ca
 To: EMC Posting (E-mail) emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
 Date: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:20 AM
 Subject: Zo

 
 Does anybody know the characteristic impedance of a twisted pair?
 Thanks in advance,
 
  ...OLE_Obj...
 
 William D'Orazio
 CAE Electronics Ltd.
 Electrical System Designer
 
 Phone: (514) 341-2000 (X4555)
 Fax: (514)340-5552
 Email: dora...@cae.ca
 

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Equations for twisted-pair (was Re: Zo)

2001-02-13 Thread beydu
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Hi! Robert:

I'm very interested in the emperical equations that you have for twisted-pair.
Do you mind sharing this with me ?

Thanks in advance

Perry Qu

Robert Macy wrote:

 Did you find out what you need?

 Somewhere around here I have the equations that closely approximate twisted
 pair for 26 Awg and 28 Awg wire from DC to 10MHz.  They were derived from
 empirical modeling.  You can make various approximations to simplify their
 use.

 That includes impedance, loss per length vs frequency, etc.

 I don't think they take into account being close to conductors, like a
 shield, or crosstalk between pairs, because that's another analysis, but
 they're *extremely* useful for predicting attenuation versus frequency for
 analyzing the expected performance one will get from DSL modems.

  - Robert -

Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com
408 286 3985  fx 408 297 9121
AJM International Electronics Consultants
619 North First St,   San Jose, CA  95112

 -Original Message-
 From: William D'Orazio dora...@cae.ca
 To: EMC Posting (E-mail) emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
 Date: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:20 AM
 Subject: Zo

 
 Does anybody know the characteristic impedance of a twisted pair?
 Thanks in advance,
 
  ...OLE_Obj...
 
 William D'Orazio
 CAE Electronics Ltd.
 Electrical System Designer
 
 Phone: (514) 341-2000 (X4555)
 Fax: (514)340-5552
 Email: dora...@cae.ca
 

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