Re: ISO 9000 and Sales Tenders in the EMEA
In message 002301ca9925$51aa37b0$d600a...@tamuracorp.com, dated Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Brian O'Connell oconne...@tamuracorp.com writes: Will be looking for Mr Woodgate's reply to this, as I have not been able to understand the value of the ISO 9k dance. I'm not an expert on ISO 900, which is why I keep on good terms with a colleague who is! I can see the point that an RD department may not need certification, provided there are adequate safeguards that the manufactured products perform as intended. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK I should be disillusioned, but it's not worth the effort. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@socal.rr.com Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
RE: ISO 9000 and Sales Tenders in the EMEA
Will be looking for Mr Woodgate's reply to this, as I have not been able to understand the value of the ISO 9k dance. FWIW, last year I requested permission from the corporate office to stop our wonderful visits to (only) the engineering dept from the registrar. So we polled our customers, distributors, etc. None cared if the engineering dept did not have it, but were happy as long as the factories had the paper. In any case, the big boss would not let us drop engineering from the ISO dance - so we continue to waltz with our two left feet. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:02 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: ISO 9000 and Sales Tenders in the EMEA In message 580243.62817...@web113504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com, dated Mon, 18 Jan 2010, peter merguerian pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com writes: I am told that ISO9000 is a must-have to participate in sales tenders in Europe, Middle East and Africa. Is anyone familar with an alternative to ISO9000 certification for companies not able to afford ISO9000 certification but who would like to penetrate these markets? I doubt it, but I will ask my colleague who is a specialist in ISO 9000 about possible lower-cost routes to certification. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@socal.rr.com Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
RE: [PSES] ISO 9000 and Sales Tenders in the EMEA
Peter ISO9000 is a standard requirement on many tenders – whether having it actually means anything in reality can be debated ‘till the cows come home J When you say “not able to afford” – how big is the company and how much have they been quoted? There are ISO9000 schemes designed for micro-companies which cost £1k p.a. Regards Charlie From: peter merguerian [mailto:pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 January 2010 01:24 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] ISO 9000 and Sales Tenders in the EMEA Dear Group Members, I am told that ISO9000 is a must-have to participate in sales tenders in Europe, Middle East and Africa. Is anyone familar with an alternative to ISO9000 certification for companies not able to afford ISO9000 certification but who would like to penetrate these markets? Thanks, Peter Merguerian - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@socal.rr.com Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@socal.rr.com Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com
Re: ISO 9000 and Sales Tenders in the EMEA
In message 580243.62817...@web113504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com, dated Mon, 18 Jan 2010, peter merguerian pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com writes: I am told that ISO9000 is a must-have to participate in sales tenders in Europe, Middle East and Africa. Is anyone familar with an alternative to ISO9000 certification for companies not able to afford ISO9000 certification but who would like to penetrate these markets? I doubt it, but I will ask my colleague who is a specialist in ISO 9000 about possible lower-cost routes to certification. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK I should be disillusioned, but it's not worth the effort. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@socal.rr.com Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
ISO 9000 and Sales Tenders in the EMEA
Dear Group Members, I am told that ISO9000 is a must-have to participate in sales tenders in Europe, Middle East and Africa. Is anyone familar with an alternative to ISO9000 certification for companies not able to afford ISO9000 certification but who would like to penetrate these markets? Thanks, Peter Merguerian - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@socal.rr.com Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com
