My HP Laserjet 4L is 16 years old, my primary printer, and is only now
starting to get a little flaky about feeding paper from the magazine. It still
prints finer than I can see!

 

Next week, I expect to see my MB 420SEL trip over the 300k mile mark; still
running smooth and doesn’t burn any oil t all. Maybe next year will be time
for a new paint job.

 

Still, not all classic designs are so lucky; my Commodore PET is dead.

 

 

Ed Price

ed.pr...@cubic.com <blocked::mailto:ed.pr...@cubic.com>      WB6WSN

NARTE Certified EMC Engineer

Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab

Cubic Defense Applications

San Diego, CA  USA

858-505-2780

Military & Avionics EMC Is Our Specialty

 

From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Haynes, Tim
(SELEX GALILEO, UK)
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 4:26 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] (EMC) Performance Changing With Age Of Product

 

Hi Folks,

 

On the other hand,

 

I have had 1 car out of 7 needing in-warranty repair

No mobile phones going wrong [about 9 so far] (although my wife has had one
fail)

No notebooks fail, although one laptop from 5 failed (and the company went
bust)

All my coffee makers have lasted over a year and

All my printers (4) have lasted for 3+ years

 

Are the products sold in NL of worse quality than in the UK?

 

 

So, to expand the question a little does EMC engineers performance change with
age? For the better or for the worse? :-)

 

Regards 

Tim

 

 

 

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Tim Haynes 

Electromagnetic Engineering Specialist

SELEX Galileo, A Finmeccanica Company

300 Capability Green

Luton

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P Please consider the environment before printing this email. 

 

There are 10 types of people in the world-those who understand binary and
those who don't. J. Paxman

 

 

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From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
[mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl] 
Sent: 21 June 2010 11:20
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] (EMC) Performance Changing With Age Of Product

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If I use your classification, and classify products according

to the results I have to conclude that most consumer products

fall into category 5. Many products did not even make it to the end

of guarantee without return to store…a few (recent) examples:

 

1.      Every car I had 

2.      Most Nokia phones I bought

3.      All the notebooks I purchased (HP-ACER-COMPAQ)

4.      Coffeemaker (Krups)

5.      HP laser printers (most cartridge related / 1x software)

 

And that is just the top of the iceberg ;<(

 

I think that for consumer products you will have to make

more classes between 4 and 5 to distinguish the level of rubbish they sell!

 

Regards,

Ing. Gert Gremmen

 

 

 

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Before printing, think about the environment. 

 

 

Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Dward
Verzonden: Saturday, June 19, 2010 11:55 PM
Aan: k...@earthlink.net; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Onderwerp: RE: [PSES] EMC Performance Changing With Age Of Product

 

Seems to be the old scenario of:

1 – know exactly what your device does, test it till it breaks, find out
just what it can do and can’t do – expensive – but you end up with a
superior product far above the average – a rock solid device.

2 – assume your product is OK, but test just a little more than the
standards –costly but less expensive than 1, and you wind up with a product
that generally works in most instances and has not too bad of a return rate
– a pretty good device.

3 – do only exactly what the standard says, no more no less -  inexpensive
compared to 1 and 2 but prone to wander and works most of the time as long as
no extremes or no hard use exists – a mid end ‘Best Buy’ product

4 – only do the absolute minimum in the standard and if you can get away
with it, lean towards no test rather than test – a mediocre at best product
with nothing special, super deal at the stores (probably because the store
just want to get rid of them)

5 – find some way to get out of reasonable testing, possibly some fudge
factoring involved in the way testing is explained – el cheapo dope deal
almost guaranteed to break the second warranties run out.

But that is just my way of looking at it.:) 

 

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