RE: Batteries ...

2001-06-15 Thread Dick Grobner

However - Beware
The county (Ramsey County, Minnesota) we are located in has jurisdiction of
the "stuff" we dispose of into our "general industrial waste" container
(i.e. the dumpster). 
Regarding Lithium Ion batteries:
"small cells", that is,  9 volts or less, are classified as Non-Hazardous. 
"large cells", greater than 9 volts, are classified as Potentially Hazardous
(unless one can show that it is non-hazardous, it will be considered as
hazardous for reactivity).
In all cases I have never ran across a cell that is more than 9 volts. So I
would have to state that a majority of the Lithium Ion batteries used in ITE
would be classified as "Non-Hazardous" to the environment.
Now for Europe and other parts of the word regarding Lithium Ion batteries -
I have a new learning opportunity ahead of me!

-Original Message-
From: Hare, Paul [mailto:ph...@pirus.com]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:13 PM
To: 'Dick Grobner'; 'Doug McKean'
Cc: IEEE EMC-PSTC E-Mail Forum (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Batteries ... 


This is from the Panasonic Battery Disposal Guidelines webpage with respect
to Lithium-ion battery disposal in the US:

"All Panasonic Lithium Ion batteries are classified by the federal
government as non-hazardous waste and are safe for disposal in the normal
municipal waste stream."

http://www.panasonic.com/industrial_oem/battery/battery_oem/enviro/enviro.ht
m

Go figure...

Paul Hare   e: ph...@pirus.com
Compliance Engineer w: 978.206.9179
Pirus Networks  f: 978.206.9199
43 Nagog Park   c: 508.450.0376
Acton, MA 01720 i: www.pirus.com


-Original Message-
From: Dick Grobner [mailto:dick.grob...@medgraph.com]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:55 AM
To: 'Doug McKean'
Cc: IEEE EMC-PSTC E-Mail Forum (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Batteries ... 




I would check with the:
local
county
state
federal
requirements - in that order. That is the hierarchy established here in the
State of Minnesota.
I was also advised during a recent ISO Audit that we as a supplier of
electronic equipment using a Lithium Ion battery are required to advise our
European customers of "proper disposal techniques" in our device labeling
(i.e. user manual). I have not had time to research these requirements as of
yet. Does anyone in the forum have any references they are willing to pass
on regarding this situation?
Thank You 

PS - I'm beginning to believe that Lithium Ion Batteries are not a good
thing to tie into electronic equipment!


-Original Message-
From: Doug McKean [mailto:dmck...@corp.auspex.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 2:56 PM
To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group
Subject: Batteries ... 



Maybe sort of off topic.  

What's the disposal procedures for batteries such as 
the A, AA, AAA, C, D, lithiums ... ? 

Are you supposed to just throw them into the trash? 

What if a customer a customer calls in to ask such 
a question and let's say they're in the US, Canada, 
or Europe?   What are you supposed to say or 
what agency or website? 

- Doug 



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RE: Batteries ...

2001-06-15 Thread Hare, Paul

This is from the Panasonic Battery Disposal Guidelines webpage with respect
to Lithium-ion battery disposal in the US:

"All Panasonic Lithium Ion batteries are classified by the federal
government as non-hazardous waste and are safe for disposal in the normal
municipal waste stream."

http://www.panasonic.com/industrial_oem/battery/battery_oem/enviro/enviro.ht
m

Go figure...

Paul Hare   e: ph...@pirus.com
Compliance Engineer w: 978.206.9179
Pirus Networks  f: 978.206.9199
43 Nagog Park   c: 508.450.0376
Acton, MA 01720 i: www.pirus.com


-Original Message-
From: Dick Grobner [mailto:dick.grob...@medgraph.com]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 11:55 AM
To: 'Doug McKean'
Cc: IEEE EMC-PSTC E-Mail Forum (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Batteries ... 




I would check with the:
local
county
state
federal
requirements - in that order. That is the hierarchy established here in the
State of Minnesota.
I was also advised during a recent ISO Audit that we as a supplier of
electronic equipment using a Lithium Ion battery are required to advise our
European customers of "proper disposal techniques" in our device labeling
(i.e. user manual). I have not had time to research these requirements as of
yet. Does anyone in the forum have any references they are willing to pass
on regarding this situation?
Thank You 

PS - I'm beginning to believe that Lithium Ion Batteries are not a good
thing to tie into electronic equipment!


-Original Message-
From: Doug McKean [mailto:dmck...@corp.auspex.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 2:56 PM
To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group
Subject: Batteries ... 



Maybe sort of off topic.  

What's the disposal procedures for batteries such as 
the A, AA, AAA, C, D, lithiums ... ? 

Are you supposed to just throw them into the trash? 

What if a customer a customer calls in to ask such 
a question and let's say they're in the US, Canada, 
or Europe?   What are you supposed to say or 
what agency or website? 

- Doug 



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RE: Batteries ...

2001-06-15 Thread Dick Grobner


I would check with the:
local
county
state
federal
requirements - in that order. That is the hierarchy established here in the
State of Minnesota.
I was also advised during a recent ISO Audit that we as a supplier of
electronic equipment using a Lithium Ion battery are required to advise our
European customers of "proper disposal techniques" in our device labeling
(i.e. user manual). I have not had time to research these requirements as of
yet. Does anyone in the forum have any references they are willing to pass
on regarding this situation?
Thank You 

PS - I'm beginning to believe that Lithium Ion Batteries are not a good
thing to tie into electronic equipment!


-Original Message-
From: Doug McKean [mailto:dmck...@corp.auspex.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 2:56 PM
To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group
Subject: Batteries ... 



Maybe sort of off topic.  

What's the disposal procedures for batteries such as 
the A, AA, AAA, C, D, lithiums ... ? 

Are you supposed to just throw them into the trash? 

What if a customer a customer calls in to ask such 
a question and let's say they're in the US, Canada, 
or Europe?   What are you supposed to say or 
what agency or website? 

- Doug 



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RE: Batteries ...

2001-06-15 Thread Massey, Doug C.

The Battery Act regulates disposal of NiCd and SSLA (Small Sealed Lead Acid)
batteries in the US, and mandates that manufacturers provide consumers with
a means of safe disposal. Canada has a similar act. I'm unsure of the
details in the EU, but I'm sure similar acts exist. There are two harmful
elements that the Battery Act is designed to keep out of landfills; Cadmium
and Lead.

To learn all you need, go to the EPA web page, search on Battery Act or
Batteries, and you can find the text of the Battery Act and a helpful guide
to battery recycling.

Also, the Rechargable Battery Recycling Corporation is a non-profit public
service organization that recycles batteries - you'll recognize their logo
immediately, as you see it on most battery products.
http://www.rbrc.org/rbrc/

It is my understanding that alkaline cells have no special handling
precautions; just throw them out. Li-Ions should not be incinerated - if you
throw them in the trash, they may end up in a municipal incinerator, where
they will explode. More information on proper disposal of all secondary cell
chemistries is available at the RBRC web site.

Doug Massey
LXE, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Doug McKean [mailto:dmck...@corp.auspex.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:56 PM
To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group
Subject: Batteries ... 



Maybe sort of off topic.  

What's the disposal procedures for batteries such as 
the A, AA, AAA, C, D, lithiums ... ? 

Are you supposed to just throw them into the trash? 

What if a customer a customer calls in to ask such 
a question and let's say they're in the US, Canada, 
or Europe?   What are you supposed to say or 
what agency or website? 

- Doug 



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RE: Batteries ...

2001-06-15 Thread James, Chris

"..dispose of in accordance with national or local regulations.
"

The customer should contact their local waste management department (local
council services etc). Plenty on the web under "battery disposal".

Where do you throw yours

http://www.p2pays.org/ref/07/06033.htm


-Original Message-
From: Doug McKean [mailto:dmck...@corp.auspex.com]
Sent: 14 June 2001 20:56
To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group
Subject: Batteries ... 



Maybe sort of off topic.  

What's the disposal procedures for batteries such as 
the A, AA, AAA, C, D, lithiums ... ? 

Are you supposed to just throw them into the trash? 

What if a customer a customer calls in to ask such 
a question and let's say they're in the US, Canada, 
or Europe?   What are you supposed to say or 
what agency or website? 

- Doug 



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