Re: IECEE Decision 1D107

2002-10-25 Thread John Woodgate

I read in !emc-pstc that Peter L. Tarver 
wrote (in )
about 'IECEE Decision 1D107' on Fri, 25 Oct 2002:

>Please keep in mind this is not a secret requirement for a
>product's construction or testing, as this would violate the
>operational premise of the CB Scheme. 

I realise that.

> No additional testing
>required, 

It seems to me that additional (or repeated) testing IS likely to be
required if two entirely separate reports are to be generated. 

>no additional construction requirements applied,

Indeed.

>just issuance of revenue generating reports and
>certificates.

That's the worst aspect. It appears to be a simple ruse to impose double
charges. 
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RE: IECEE Decision 1D107

2002-10-25 Thread Peter L. Tarver

John -

Please keep in mind this is not a secret requirement for a
product's construction or testing, as this would violate the
operational premise of the CB Scheme.  No additional testing
required, no additional construction requirements applied,
just issuance of revenue generating reports and
certificates.

This must be brought under control.

Thank you for your support, John.


Regards,

Peter L. Tarver, PE
Product Safety Manager
Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services
San Jose, CA
peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com

> From: John Woodgate
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002
>
> If what you have been told is true, it ought not
> to be. How can
> manufacturers be expected to make products that
> conform to standards if
> there is secret documentation that effectively
> changes the meanings and
> implications of those standards?
>
> I will raise this matter with a relevant British
> Standards committee.
> --
> Regards, John Woodgate


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Re: IECEE Decision 1D107

2002-10-25 Thread John Woodgate

I read in !emc-pstc that Peter L. Tarver 
wrote (in )
about 'IECEE Decision 1D107' on Fri, 25 Oct 2002:
>I have just been advised by an NCB that I can not obtain a
>single CB Scheme Certificate and Test Report for a product
>that has both ac and dc electrical ratings.  This is
>supposedly based on IECEE Decision 1D107.  I asked for a
>copy of this document and was advised that a copy could not
>be provided, because IECEE Decisions are, "for NCBs only."
>
>Can anyone out there provide me with a copy?  These kinds of
>decisions are likely found on the IECEE and CB Scheme web
>sites, but are password protected "for members only."  It is
>my view that I need to study this document to see just how
>far reaching the implications are and to properly advise my
>customers of its impact on them.
>
>This decision will affect all products with optional dc-dc
>converters for use as backup/redundant power supplies and
>products that swap out ac-dc for dc-dc converters in the
>factory.  It may apply to other scenarios.
>
>While I have not been hit with the full force of this yet, I
>expect to be in the not too distant future.  So will many of
>you.

If what you have been told is true, it ought not to be. How can
manufacturers be expected to make products that conform to standards if
there is secret documentation that effectively changes the meanings and
implications of those standards?

I will raise this matter with a relevant British Standards committee.
-- 
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