FW: RE: RTTE & PTT Notification

2000-10-10 Thread Jon Bond 

Several people have requested the information on the R&TTE notification 
process we just went through. I tried to post it to the group, but as the 
message says below, the zip file was too big (~315K zipped). If anyone is 
interested in the forms mentioned below please contact me via email and 
I'll send you the zip file.

Jon Bond
Senior Compliance Engineer
Zoom Telephonics

-Original Message-
From:   Jim Bacher [SMTP:jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com]
Sent:   Friday, October 06, 2000 2:17 PM
To: Jon Bond
Cc: pstc_ad...@garretson.org
Subject:Re:RE: RTTE & PTT Notification

Jon, the listserver will not let a e-mail greater than 100K go through, so 
it
bounced your message.  Best bet is to find a ftp site or website where you 
can
post it, then send an e-mail out with a link on it.  Jim
Reply Separator
Subject:        RE: RTTE & PTT Notification
Author: Jon Bond 
List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org
Date:   10/6/00 10:38 AM

Richard,
Several people have also asked so the info is enclosed in a zip file below. 
 Since most of this info was generously provided to me by Sam Wismer, I 
wanted to check with him before forwarding it. Sam of course agreed that it 
could be provided to the forum. In the zip file, there are notification 
forms specifically for UK, Sweden, Spain, Norway, Ireland, Germany, 
Finland, Denmark, Belgium, and Luxembourg. There is also a generic form 
that we used for Italy, Austria, Iceland, and Greece. An Excel spreadsheet 
(again thanks to Sam) gives some contacts, email addresses, and web pages. 
 France, The Netherlands, and Switzerland on-line submittal forms can be 
found from this info. We used a notified body (NMI) to notify France, 
Germany, Portugal, and Spain. NMi provided me with DOC forms, Quality 
Declaration forms, Packaging info forms, a standards list to declare to, 
and TCF Annex II & IV forms to fill out for the TCF review and "statement 
of opinion". Please let me know if you're also interested in that info or 
if you have a problem opening anything that I'm trying to forward.
Regards,
Jon




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RE: RTTE & PTT Notification

2000-10-06 Thread Kevin Harris 

The following link from the Low Power Radio Association may prove useful

http://www.lpra.org/html/era.htm <http://www.lpra.org/html/era.htm> 



Best Regards,


Kevin Harris
Manager, Approval Services
Digital Security Controls
3301 Langstaff Road
Concord, Ontario
CANADA
L4K 4L2

Tel: +1 905 760 3000 Ext. 2378
Fax +1 905 760 3020

Email: harr...@dscltd.com <mailto:harr...@dscltd.com> 

-Original Message-
From:   Wismer, Sam [mailto:wisme...@lxe.com]
Sent:   Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:39 PM
To: wo...@sensormatic.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject:    RE: RTTE & PTT Notification


No, seemed fairly simple once I figured out where to send
the notifications
to.  Let me know if you need some of that information, I
have developed a
good database.  

Oh I did get a call from someone in France about my
notification.  He
sounded like he was at a payphone in a train station.  On
top of that, his
English was bad and my French was worse so you can imagine
the call wasn't
productive.  I'm still not sure why he called although he
did say everything
was okay.  That's all I needed to know, so that's where the
conversation
ended.

All in all, my 1st experience with the new directive has
gone well.  I am
now in the process of converting our existing approvals over
to the new
scheme.  
 


~
Sam Wismer
RF Approvals Engineer
LXE, Inc.
(770) 447-4224 Ext. 3654

Visit Our Website at:
http://www.lxe.com



-Original Message-
From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 2:19 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
    Subject: RE: RTTE & PTT Notification



Thanks for blazing the trail, Sam. Did you run into any
quirks in other EEA
countries?

Richard Woods

--
From:  Wismer, Sam [SMTP:wisme...@lxe.com]
Sent:  Thursday, October 05, 2000 2:04 PM
To:  wo...@sensormatic.com;
emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
            Subject:  RE: RTTE & PTT Notification

Hi Richard,
Yes that was me.  For our 2.4GHZ equipment, I made
notification to
the RegTP
declaring complaince to the essential requirements
of the RTTE
Directive as
required by Article 6.4 of the directive.  The
response I received
back was
that it was necessary to declare complaince to their
national
standard, BAPT
222 ZV 126 in this case, as well as the ETS
standards(ETS 300 328).
I
thought this to be in violation of the directive and
thus European
law and
asked my notified body for advice.  They too thought
this to be a
violation
of the directive and agreed to look into the matter.
I never heard
back
from them on this issue.  

I went ahead and re-issued my notification form
declaring compliance
to both
standards since after review, I found them to be
technically
equivalent. 


~
Sam Wismer
RF Approvals Engineer
LXE, Inc.
(770) 447-4224 Ext. 3654

Visit Our Website at:
http://www.lxe.com <http://www.lxe.com> 



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From: wo...@sensormatic.com [
mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com
<mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com> ]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:29 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RTTE & PTT Notification



We are about to begin our RTTE notification process
to the various
PTTs in
the EEA member countries.  I read on this forum that
Germany
requires
declaration to their national standard and not an
ETSI standard. Are
there
any countries that have "special&quo

RE: RTTE & PTT Notification

2000-10-05 Thread WOODS 

Thanks Jon. We are using a recognized radio test lab to make our first
notifications. We may do it ourselves after that. I am sure that there are
many of us that would love to have a copy of that list you have. Would you
post it please?

Richard Woods

--
From:  Jon Bond [SMTP:jb...@zoomtel.com]
Sent:  Thursday, October 05, 2000 4:42 PM
To:  'rehel...@mmm.com'; wo...@sensormatic.com
Cc:  emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject:  RE: RTTE & PTT Notification

We recently submitted notifications to the EU and EFTA member
states. With 
the generous help of a regular contributor to this forum, we were
provided 
with numerous member state notification forms, mailing addresses and
email 
addresses to send out the notifications.

We also "heard" that Germany was requiring declarations to a
national 
standard. In hopes of avoiding any problems, we used a notified body
to 
perform notification submittals to Germany and 3 other countries
we've had 
problems with in the past with regards to regulatory approvals. We
notified 
about 15 EU / EFTA members on our own. We only declared to the
relevant 
ETSI and EN standards, we did not declare to anyone's national
standard. 
The 4 week timeframe  has come and gone and we have only received
"ok's", 
and no responses. We have not received any "rejections" for not
declaring 
to a national standard. The 4-week time period has come and gone.
(BTW, 
Germany was a "no response".)

Regards,

Jon Bond
Senior Compliance Engineer
Zoom Telephonics

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From:   rehel...@mmm.com [SMTP:rehel...@mmm.com]
Sent:   Thursday, October 05, 2000 12:57 PM
To: wo...@sensormatic.com
    Cc:     emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject:Re: RTTE & PTT Notification




It is my understanding that the UK wants information on the
modulation used 
and
the ITU classifcation. Other than that I have not heard of anything
else 
from
any other country (including Germany).has anyone
else 
heard
of country "specials" and the RTTE?

===




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Subject:  RTTE & PTT Notification




We are about to begin our RTTE notification process to the various
PTTs in
the EEA member countries.  I read on this forum that Germany
requires
declaration to their national standard and not an ETSI standard. Are
there
any countries that have "special" requirements for the notification?

Richard Woods

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RE: RTTE & PTT Notification

2000-10-05 Thread Wismer, Sam 

No, seemed fairly simple once I figured out where to send the notifications
to.  Let me know if you need some of that information, I have developed a
good database.  

Oh I did get a call from someone in France about my notification.  He
sounded like he was at a payphone in a train station.  On top of that, his
English was bad and my French was worse so you can imagine the call wasn't
productive.  I'm still not sure why he called although he did say everything
was okay.  That's all I needed to know, so that's where the conversation
ended.

All in all, my 1st experience with the new directive has gone well.  I am
now in the process of converting our existing approvals over to the new
scheme.  
 


~
Sam Wismer
RF Approvals Engineer
LXE, Inc.
(770) 447-4224 Ext. 3654

Visit Our Website at:
http://www.lxe.com



-Original Message-
From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 2:19 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: RTTE & PTT Notification



Thanks for blazing the trail, Sam. Did you run into any quirks in other EEA
countries?

Richard Woods

--
From:  Wismer, Sam [SMTP:wisme...@lxe.com]
Sent:  Thursday, October 05, 2000 2:04 PM
To:  wo...@sensormatic.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
        Subject:  RE: RTTE & PTT Notification

Hi Richard,
Yes that was me.  For our 2.4GHZ equipment, I made notification to
the RegTP
declaring complaince to the essential requirements of the RTTE
Directive as
required by Article 6.4 of the directive.  The response I received
back was
that it was necessary to declare complaince to their national
standard, BAPT
222 ZV 126 in this case, as well as the ETS standards(ETS 300 328).
I
thought this to be in violation of the directive and thus European
law and
asked my notified body for advice.  They too thought this to be a
violation
of the directive and agreed to look into the matter.  I never heard
back
from them on this issue.  

I went ahead and re-issued my notification form declaring compliance
to both
standards since after review, I found them to be technically
equivalent. 


~
Sam Wismer
RF Approvals Engineer
LXE, Inc.
(770) 447-4224 Ext. 3654

Visit Our Website at:
http://www.lxe.com <http://www.lxe.com> 



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<mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com> ]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:29 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RTTE & PTT Notification



We are about to begin our RTTE notification process to the various
PTTs in
the EEA member countries.  I read on this forum that Germany
requires
declaration to their national standard and not an ETSI standard. Are
there
any countries that have "special" requirements for the notification?

Richard Woods

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RE: RTTE & PTT Notification

2000-10-05 Thread Jon Bond 

We recently submitted notifications to the EU and EFTA member states. With 
the generous help of a regular contributor to this forum, we were provided 
with numerous member state notification forms, mailing addresses and email 
addresses to send out the notifications.

We also "heard" that Germany was requiring declarations to a national 
standard. In hopes of avoiding any problems, we used a notified body to 
perform notification submittals to Germany and 3 other countries we've had 
problems with in the past with regards to regulatory approvals. We notified 
about 15 EU / EFTA members on our own. We only declared to the relevant 
ETSI and EN standards, we did not declare to anyone's national standard. 
The 4 week timeframe  has come and gone and we have only received "ok's", 
and no responses. We have not received any "rejections" for not declaring 
to a national standard. The 4-week time period has come and gone. (BTW, 
Germany was a "no response".)

Regards,

Jon Bond
Senior Compliance Engineer
Zoom Telephonics

-Original Message-
From:   rehel...@mmm.com [SMTP:rehel...@mmm.com]
Sent:   Thursday, October 05, 2000 12:57 PM
To: wo...@sensormatic.com
Cc:     emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject:Re: RTTE & PTT Notification




It is my understanding that the UK wants information on the modulation used 
and
the ITU classifcation. Other than that I have not heard of anything else 
from
any other country (including Germany).has anyone else 
heard
of country "specials" and the RTTE?

===




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cc:(bcc: Robert E. Heller/US-Corporate/3M/US)
Subject:  RTTE & PTT Notification




We are about to begin our RTTE notification process to the various PTTs in
the EEA member countries.  I read on this forum that Germany requires
declaration to their national standard and not an ETSI standard. Are there
any countries that have "special" requirements for the notification?

Richard Woods

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RE: RTTE & PTT Notification

2000-10-05 Thread WOODS 

Thanks for blazing the trail, Sam. Did you run into any quirks in other EEA
countries?

Richard Woods

--
From:  Wismer, Sam [SMTP:wisme...@lxe.com]
Sent:  Thursday, October 05, 2000 2:04 PM
To:  wo...@sensormatic.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject:  RE: RTTE & PTT Notification

Hi Richard,
Yes that was me.  For our 2.4GHZ equipment, I made notification to
the RegTP
declaring complaince to the essential requirements of the RTTE
Directive as
required by Article 6.4 of the directive.  The response I received
back was
that it was necessary to declare complaince to their national
standard, BAPT
222 ZV 126 in this case, as well as the ETS standards(ETS 300 328).
I
thought this to be in violation of the directive and thus European
law and
asked my notified body for advice.  They too thought this to be a
violation
of the directive and agreed to look into the matter.  I never heard
back
from them on this issue.  

I went ahead and re-issued my notification form declaring compliance
to both
standards since after review, I found them to be technically
equivalent. 


~
Sam Wismer
RF Approvals Engineer
LXE, Inc.
(770) 447-4224 Ext. 3654

Visit Our Website at:
http://www.lxe.com <http://www.lxe.com> 



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<mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com> ]
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:29 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RTTE & PTT Notification



We are about to begin our RTTE notification process to the various
PTTs in
the EEA member countries.  I read on this forum that Germany
requires
declaration to their national standard and not an ETSI standard. Are
there
any countries that have "special" requirements for the notification?

Richard Woods

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RE: RTTE & PTT Notification

2000-10-05 Thread Wismer, Sam 

Hi Richard,
Yes that was me.  For our 2.4GHZ equipment, I made notification to the RegTP
declaring complaince to the essential requirements of the RTTE Directive as
required by Article 6.4 of the directive.  The response I received back was
that it was necessary to declare complaince to their national standard, BAPT
222 ZV 126 in this case, as well as the ETS standards(ETS 300 328).  I
thought this to be in violation of the directive and thus European law and
asked my notified body for advice.  They too thought this to be a violation
of the directive and agreed to look into the matter.  I never heard back
from them on this issue.  

I went ahead and re-issued my notification form declaring compliance to both
standards since after review, I found them to be technically equivalent. 


~
Sam Wismer
RF Approvals Engineer
LXE, Inc.
(770) 447-4224 Ext. 3654

Visit Our Website at:
http://www.lxe.com  



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 ]
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We are about to begin our RTTE notification process to the various PTTs in
the EEA member countries.  I read on this forum that Germany requires
declaration to their national standard and not an ETSI standard. Are there
any countries that have "special" requirements for the notification?

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Re: RTTE & PTT Notification

2000-10-05 Thread reheller 



It is my understanding that the UK wants information on the modulation used and
the ITU classifcation. Other than that I have not heard of anything else from
any other country (including Germany).has anyone else heard
of country "specials" and the RTTE?

===




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We are about to begin our RTTE notification process to the various PTTs in
the EEA member countries.  I read on this forum that Germany requires
declaration to their national standard and not an ETSI standard. Are there
any countries that have "special" requirements for the notification?

Richard Woods

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