RE: Regulatory compliance training for students

1997-01-23 Thread Rick Busche
In addition, I'll bet that if you were to survey the industry, there
would be a high percentage of Regulatory Engineers who have Associate
Engineering degrees or degrees other than EE. Historically, it has been
my observation that product safety is not necessarily a well recognized
engineering discipline, and while I enjoy it, several engineers have
commented that they would rather do digital or analog design than
safety.

Just my $0.02

Rick Busche
rbus...@es.com
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Subject:   Re: Regulatory compliance training for students

Gabriel-

I agree with your position that regulatory work is not done only those 
with an associate's degree (I personally have a BSEE as do many of my 
colleagues).  It should be noted that even though  UL will not grant the 
title of Project Engineer to someone  without a bachelor in engineering, 
the Project Engineer and the Engineering Associate (one with an 
associate's degree) will perform the same type of project evaluations.  

Just my two cents worth.

Regards,
Kelly Colon

Kelly Colon
Regulatory Engineer 
Regulatory Engineering
Symbol Technologies, Inc.
phone:  516 738 3480
fax:  516 738 3318
e-mail:  col...@symbol.com

The above opinions are entirely my own!




Re: Regulatory compliance training for students

1997-01-23 Thread Doug McKean
Why is the talk centered around safety? 

Safety specs are construction and performance. 
They tell you what to do. No secret there. 

Emissions specs are performance specs. They say nothing 
about construction. Only one course I've seen for emi/emc 
offered at a school was a graduate class one semester. 

Even still, some things some people call 'fixes' have been 
11th hour gasket/ferrite panic fixes as the primary emi 
control procedure.  In fact, starting out in the field of 
emi/emc, all one can hope for to large extent are 'courses' 
sponsered by gasket/ferrite people who want you to 
improperly primary design so that you keep them in 
business. 




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Re: Regulatory compliance training for students

1997-01-23 Thread Doug McKean
cortland.richmond...@ccmailsmtp.ast.com wrote:

 had to snip some stuff 

 the original question was whether courses in complying 
  with regulations should be offered in college.

This is a queston with many parts to it.  
If it's just safety, then no. 
If it's emi/emc, then maybe. 
If it's about just regulations, then no. 

Isn't this issue more an engineering ethics problem, 
 and a social consequence of our work, than a problem 
 of technical design?

I would think this should permeate all engineering. 
Hopefully we're all ethical.  Technical design is 
the other side of our work. 

Getting compliance designed in can be much harder 
 than discovering when it is not. 

Actually, the opposite has been my experience. 
I must as a compliance engineer make myself a 
signatory to: printed circuit board layout, 
system layout, mechanical layout approvals, 
component approvals. 

I must also be a signatory for any ECRs that 
would effect changes to said layouts. Believe me, 
designing in at the beginning is much easier than 
finding out in some lab at 2:00AM.  I've been 
on both sides. 

Alot of the above just cannot be taught in school. 

Regards, Doug


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Re: Regulatory compliance training for students

1997-01-22 Thread COLON KELLY
Gabriel-

I agree with your position that regulatory work is not done only those 
with an associate's degree (I personally have a BSEE as do many of my 
colleagues).  It should be noted that even though  UL will not grant the 
title of Project Engineer to someone  without a bachelor in engineering, 
the Project Engineer and the Engineering Associate (one with an 
associate's degree) will perform the same type of project evaluations.  

Just my two cents worth.

Regards,
Kelly Colon

Kelly Colon
Regulatory Engineer 
Regulatory Engineering
Symbol Technologies, Inc.
phone:  516 738 3480
fax:  516 738 3318
e-mail:  col...@symbol.com

The above opinions are entirely my own!