Re: What happened to the IEC60417 symbol library?
I read in !emc-pstc that POWELL, DOUG doug.pow...@aei.com wrote (in b44016f6854cd511a6470003476b45e4381...@exchange.aei.com) about 'What happened to the IEC60417 symbol library?', on Mon, 17 Dec 2001: My questions was not about IEC60617 the Graphical symbol library for use on diagrams (drawings and schematics). Instead it was about the IEC60417 Graphical symbols for use on equipment (labels). Go to http://www.iec.ch and search diligently. You will find out how to get access to IEC60417 on line (not free!). -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: What happened to the IEC60417 symbol library?
Hello all, On this topic, there's a fair amount of confusion going on in this group. Which surprises me, since for the most part, people who are involved with regulatory issues are more careful in their reading. My questions was not about IEC60617 the Graphical symbol library for use on diagrams (drawings and schematics). Instead it was about the IEC60417 Graphical symbols for use on equipment (labels). The new online 60617 is not the same as the online 60417 once was. As for copyright, I purchased this document long ago and I make use of it. It's just that it is cellulose-based and not electronic. I often find it much easier to explain myself to various drafting and design types if I can forward a pictorial of the symbol in question. In my original question, I was hoping to find the online resource somewhere else since Dr. Ikeda discontinued his. -doug --- Douglas E. Powell, Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. Mail stop: 203024 1626 Sharp Point Drive Ft. Collins, CO 80525 970.407.6410 (phone) 970-407.5410 (fax) mailto:doug.pow...@aei.com --- _ This message, including any attachments, may contain information that is confidential and proprietary information of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. The dissemination, distribution, use or copying of this message or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited without the express written consent of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: What happened to the IEC60417 symbol library?
The main page for the site is still up, just none of the content we all seek. http://w3.hike.te.chiba-u.ac.jp/iec417/ver2.0/html/index.htm l Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina Homologation Services peter.tar...@sanmina.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: What happened to the IEC60417 symbol library?
Hello Doug, Dr. Ikeda, the Secretary of IEC SC/3C (the committee responsible for symbols), has decommissioned his private site. That is the bad news. The good news is that IEC has placed this information on the web, officially, but you must pay for it. The bureaucrats are protecting their revenue stream! http://www.iec.ch/ and look in the upper right for: IEC 60617 online Graphical symbols database Best regards, Dave Osborn Philips Medical Systems Cardiac and Monitoring Systems Secretary, ISO TC 121/SC3 d.g.osb...@ieee.org + 1 978 659 3178 fax +1 978 685 5624 -Original Message- From: POWELL, DOUG [mailto:doug.pow...@aei.com] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:41 PM To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: What happened to the IEC60417 symbol library? Hello all, Today it came to my attention the IEC website in Japan is down. I checked with InterNIC and their domain name is no longer registered. I checked with GOOGLE.COM and search results are: - Graphical Symbols Compliant to IEC Standard 417 - http://w3.hike.te.chiba-u.ac.jp/iec417/ver2.0/html/index.html a database by Ikeda Lab., Chiba University. IEC 417 has been renumbered to IEC 60417. - But of course the link is dead. Does anyone know if it moved? -doug _ In the face of adversity, be patient, in the face of a basenji, be prudent, be canny, be on your guard! _ This message, including any attachments, may contain information that is confidential and proprietary information of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. The dissemination, distribution, use or copying of this message or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited without the express written consent of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: What happened to the IEC60417 symbol library?
Surely IEC 60417-1 and ..617 are different standards? The former is Graphical Symbols for use on EQUIPMENT... (my emphasis). Whereas: IEC 60617-1GRAPHICAL SYMBOLS FOR DIAGRAMS [about 13 parts, -1 to -13] IEC 60617-1same title (Still interesting, I'd missed that announcement about IEC 60617.) By the way, if you do buy (PDF available from ANSI or IEC) IEC 60417, part 1 is now all you need to browse the thumbnail images, descriptions, etc. Part 2 (IEC 60417-1) has the full-size images for reproduction purposes. While I have my index open, some other possibly relevant documents: ISO 3864 Safety Colours and Safety Signs ISO 7000 Graphical Symbols for use on Equipment. EN 61310-1 SAFETY OF MACHINERY - INDICATION, MARKING AND ACTUATION - REQUIREMENTS FOR VISUAL, AUDITORY AND TACTILE SIGNALS [symbols for operation, prohibition, warning, mandatory, escape, fire fighting] EN 61310-2 [...]-REQUIREMENTS FOR MARKING [symbols for: Ground(earth), ac, dc, +, -, class II, III, !, dangerous voltage] 92/58/EEC MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROVISION OF SAFETY AND/OR HEALTH SIGNS AT WORK ANSI Z535.1SAFETY COLOR CODE ANSI Z535.2 ENVIRONMENTAL AND FACILITY SAFETY SIGNS ANSI Z535.3 CRITERIA FOR SAFETY SYMBOLS ANSI Z535.4PRODUCT SAFETY SIGNS AND LABELS ANSI Z535.5 ACCIDENT PREVENTION TAGS PS: I don't have an answer to the original question. (I always assumed the w3.hike.te.chiba-u.ac.jp site was an unofficial [and useful] resource; it did not appear to be an official IEC site (although, a Prof. Ikeda is listed in the IEC committee documents).) Maybe the site is just temporarily down? However, Google also lists other sites, such as: http://www.geda.seul.org/symlibrary/IEC417/small.html http://www.geda.coelacanth.com/symlibrary/IEC417/small.html [mirror] best regards, glyn Glyn R. Garside TUV Rheinland of North America, Inc. (Chicago Office) http://www.us.tuv.com TEL 847-562-9888 ext 25 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: What happened to the IEC60417 symbol library?
Its now available from IEC (at a price - copyrighted you know): IEC 60617 Graphical Symbols database The IEC 60617 Graphical Symbols for Diagrams database (http://domino.iec.ch/symbols) has now been launched officially. The database offers users a dynamic facility featuring some 1 400 symbols in GIF format with extensive new metadata facilitating a very user friendly search function (Free text search of metadata; search by: Publication, Keyword, Shape, Function, Application, and Symbol ID and Status). Access is by means of a username and password and subscribers will benefit from knowing that they remain up-to-date on all new symbols published during the selected subscription period (3, 6, 12 or 24 months). What symbols are included in the database? . Conductors and connecting devices . Basic passive components . Semiconductors and electron tubes . Production and conversion of electrical energy . Switchgear, controlgear and protective devices . Measuring instruments, lamps and signalling devices . Telecommunications transmission, switching and peripheral equipment . Architectural and topographical installation plans and diagrams Subscriptions to the database Subscriptions can be purchased through the IEC National Committees or NC-appointed Sales Outlets, or directly from the IEC Web Store (separate articles available for each subscription period - 3, 6, 12 or 24 months). Please note that multi-user network licences are also available. IEC 60617-DB-3M (2001-11) Ed. 1.0 - Graphical symbols for diagrams - 3-month subscription to online database comprising parts 2 to 11 of IEC 60617 SC 3A - CHF 169,00 for single user and CHF 219,70 for a three-user network license IEC 60617-DB-6M (2001-11) Ed. 1.0 - Graphical symbols for diagrams - 6-month subscription to online database comprising parts 2 to 11 of IEC 60617 SC 3A - CHF 297,00 for single user and CHF 386,10 for a three-user network license IEC 60617-DB-12M (2001-11) Ed. 1.0 - Graphical symbols for diagrams - 12-month subscription to online database comprising parts 2 to 11 of IEC 60617 SC 3A - CHF 509,00 for single user and CHF 661,70 for a three-user network license IEC 60617-DB-24M (2001-11) Ed. 1.0 - Graphical symbols for diagrams - 24-month subscription to online database comprising parts 2 to 11 of IEC 60617 SC 3A - CHF 933,00 for single user and CHF 1212,90 for a three-user network license For customers that have already purchased IEC 60617 publications, we are pleased to be able to offer a special introductory price. If you wish to subscribe, please contact Nader Kazemi (Tel: + 41 22 919 0228 / E-mail: n...@iec.ch) for further information. IMPORTANT: Parts 2 to 11 of IEC 60617 (1996) Ed. 2.0 have been withdrawn and replaced by the database version. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
Re: What happened to the IEC60417 symbol library?
I read in !emc-pstc that POWELL, DOUG doug.pow...@aei.com wrote (in b44016f6854cd511a6470003476b45e4381...@exchange.aei.com) about 'What happened to the IEC60417 symbol library?', on Fri, 14 Dec 2001: But of course the link is dead. Does anyone know if it moved? Go to http://www.iec.ch and contact the IEC directly. There is a new URL. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
