RE: RTTE and E-Mark applicable?
Thank you all for helping. I believe I know the right approach now for devices that can straddle the fence. It will be interesting if there is more clarification about this before Oct 2002 like Mr. Woodgate mentioned. Neil, my scenario for the laptop needing E-Mark would then only apply to the cigarrette lighter adapter that powers the laptop, simalr to your hands-free kit scenario for cellphones. Thank you all again. W W --- Barker, Neil neil.bar...@e2vtechnologies.com wrote: I believe that your interpretation of the marking requirements is correct. Devices that are intended for use in vehicles need to be e-marked, and devices for use elsewhere need to be CE marked. Devices intended for both environments will need both markings. I am concerned, however, with your interpretation of the type of devices that may need to be e-marked. A laptop would only need to be e-marked if it was intended to be installed in a vehicle. A regular laptop that is simply used in a vehicle is not subject to the Automotive EMC Directive. If this were not the case, then potentially all laptops could be used in vehicles and all would require to be e-marked! Similarly for radio devices. A mobile radio (receiver or transmitter) that is intended for installation in a vehicle does need to be e-marked. However, a portable radio that can be carried in and out of a vehicle (e.g. cellphone) does not require to be e-marked, but any adaptor that is intended to be permanently installed in the vehicle for use with such a portable device would need to be e-marked. So, your cellphone does not need to be e-marked, but the installed hands-free adaptor does need to be e-marked. I hope that this clarifies the position for you. Best regards, Neil R. Barker Compliance Engineering Manager E2V Technologies Waterhouse Lane Chelmsford Essex CM1 2QU U.K. Tel: +44 (01245) 453616 Fax: +44 (01245) 453410 E-mail: neil.bar...@e2vtechnologies.com -Original Message- From: w w [mailto:kro...@yahoo.com] Sent: 21 August 2002 19:21 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RTTE and E-Mark applicable? Hello Group, 1) Assuming I have learned corrrectly from past discussions, devices that can fall under two EU Directives: examples: Laptop's used in vehicle (E-Mark requirements) and non-vehicle (CE-Mark requirements)environments. or Radio devices used in vehicles (E-Mark CE Mark/RTTE) would need to show compliance to both EU Directives...entailing a combined test plan and placing both marks on the device(E CE Mark). One does not supercede the other. Thank you in advance. W W __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list ATTACHMENT part 2 application/octet-stream name=Neil R. Barker (E-mail).vcf __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: Fwd: RTTE and E-Mark applicable?
I read in !emc-pstc that w w kro...@yahoo.com wrote (in 2002082118463 5.31998.qm...@web14912.mail.yahoo.com) about 'Fwd: RTTE and E-Mark applicable?' on Wed, 21 Aug 2002: Note: forwarded message attached. OopsQuestion is Is this correct, the scenario I proposed? No, or probably no. See my response to your original post. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: RTTE and E-Mark applicable?
I read in !emc-pstc that w w kro...@yahoo.com wrote (in 2002082118211 9.9182.qm...@web14911.mail.yahoo.com) about 'RTTE and E-Mark applicable?' on Wed, 21 Aug 2002: Hello Group, 1) Assuming I have learned corrrectly from past discussions, devices that can fall under two EU Directives: examples: Laptop's used in vehicle (E-Mark requirements) and non-vehicle (CE-Mark requirements)environments. or Radio devices used in vehicles (E-Mark CE Mark/RTTE) would need to show compliance to both EU Directives...entailing a combined test plan and placing both marks on the device(E CE Mark). That APPEARS to be so, but is clearly not in the least sensible or practicable. It would mean that **all electrical and electronic equipment that might ever be used in a vehicle, even just once** would need to have the E-Mark and be double-tested. For example, I've used in my car: - oscilloscope; - audio signal generator; - sound level meter; - audio spectrum analyser; - digital multimeter; - two laptops. Work is going on to resolve this, without causing more than minimal embarrassment to the perpetrators of the situation, before the Automotive Directive comes into effect. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: RTTE and E-Mark applicable?
To kro...@yahoo.com I think one premise of this list server is that folks participating identify themselves.somehow kro...@yahoo.com leaves a bit to be desired. Regards, Kaz Gawrzyjal Dell Computer Corp. -Original Message- From: w w [mailto:kro...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:47 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Fwd: RTTE and E-Mark applicable? Note: forwarded message attached. OopsQuestion is Is this correct, the scenario I proposed? Thx again __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Fwd: RTTE and E-Mark applicable?
Note: forwarded message attached. OopsQuestion is Is this correct, the scenario I proposed? Thx again __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com---BeginMessage--- Hello Group, 1) Assuming I have learned corrrectly from past discussions, devices that can fall under two EU Directives: examples: Laptop's used in vehicle (E-Mark requirements) and non-vehicle (CE-Mark requirements)environments. or Radio devices used in vehicles (E-Mark CE Mark/RTTE) would need to show compliance to both EU Directives...entailing a combined test plan and placing both marks on the device(E CE Mark). One does not supercede the other. Thank you in advance. W W __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list---End Message---
RTTE and E-Mark applicable?
Hello Group, 1) Assuming I have learned corrrectly from past discussions, devices that can fall under two EU Directives: examples: Laptop's used in vehicle (E-Mark requirements) and non-vehicle (CE-Mark requirements)environments. or Radio devices used in vehicles (E-Mark CE Mark/RTTE) would need to show compliance to both EU Directives...entailing a combined test plan and placing both marks on the device(E CE Mark). One does not supercede the other. Thank you in advance. W W __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
