Re: [PSES] EN55032 and the Digital Television/Monitor Reference Test Pattern of ITU-R BT.1729
Hi! Unfortunately, Tom Sato's software does not fully comply with ITU-R BT.1729. The big discrepancy is listed below: ** ZONE 12 MOVING BAR: Page 6 of the standard states that Zone 12 contains a bar which moves horizontally from left to right and then starts again from the left. This is used for checking audio-video synchronization and to establish that the channel is active. The bar travels horizontally across its zone in 1 s. The audio sync signal is given when the bar passes the centreline. (Page 6 or PDF page 8) There is more description to the zone 12 in the standard, but the above quote is sufficient to show that Tom's bar does not conform. Zone 12 is the second row from the bottom in the circle portion of the screen. (Page 3 or PDF page 5) The ITU-R BT.1729 standard is at the address below. http://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/rec/bt/R-REC-BT.1729-0-200504-I!!PDF-E.pdf I like Tom's application because it works on Java enabled web browsers, but Tom has no intention of fixing the Zone 12 moving bar. As a result, I am not able to use his application. I note that there is also nothing in the standard that allows use of a bouncing ball, but I like the feature and one could argue that this might catch some problems missed without it. Does anyone have a software recommendation that fully implements the ITU-R BT.1729 as is required for CISPR32 / EN55032 emissions testing? Monrad On 6/6/2014 1:08 PM, Ted Eckert wrote: Here is the link to Tom Sato's site. http://homepage3.nifty.com/tsato/scrolling-h/colorbar.html This email message and attachments may contain confidential and proprietary information. Any unauthorized use is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message and attachments. -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 12:02 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN55032 and the Digital Television/Monitor Reference Test Pattern of ITU-R BT.1729 Mr. Tom Sato has some of the bouncing ball stuff source published on his web site. And have seen other sites with 1729 stuff. Brian From: monrad monsen [mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 10:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN55032 and the Digital Television/Monitor Reference Test Pattern of ITU-R BT.1729 Hi! For EN55032:2012, stand alone monitors must be emissions tested with a standard television colour bar signal according to ITU-R BT 1729 with an additional small moving element. This signal is defined in ITU-R BT.1729 which gives a digital television reference test pattern. Does anyone have a source for a software routine that puts out the reference test pattern? Ideally, I would like the reference test pattern software with compiled executable files to support testing with each of the major operating systems like Windows, Solaris, and Linux. Thanks. Monrad Monsen - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society
Re: [PSES] EN55032 and the Digital Television/Monitor Reference Test Pattern of ITU-R BT.1729
Mr. Tom Sato has some of the bouncing ball stuff source published on his web site. And have seen other sites with 1729 stuff. Brian From: monrad monsen [mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 10:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN55032 and the Digital Television/Monitor Reference Test Pattern of ITU-R BT.1729 Hi! For EN55032:2012, stand alone monitors must be emissions tested with a standard television colour bar signal according to ITU-R BT 1729 with an additional small moving element. This signal is defined in ITU-R BT.1729 which gives a digital television reference test pattern. Does anyone have a source for a software routine that puts out the reference test pattern? Ideally, I would like the reference test pattern software with compiled executable files to support testing with each of the major operating systems like Windows, Solaris, and Linux. Thanks. Monrad Monsen - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] EN55032 and the Digital Television/Monitor Reference Test Pattern of ITU-R BT.1729
Here is the link to Tom Sato's site. http://homepage3.nifty.com/tsato/scrolling-h/colorbar.html This email message and attachments may contain confidential and proprietary information. Any unauthorized use is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message and attachments. -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 12:02 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN55032 and the Digital Television/Monitor Reference Test Pattern of ITU-R BT.1729 Mr. Tom Sato has some of the bouncing ball stuff source published on his web site. And have seen other sites with 1729 stuff. Brian From: monrad monsen [mailto:monrad.mon...@oracle.com] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 10:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN55032 and the Digital Television/Monitor Reference Test Pattern of ITU-R BT.1729 Hi! For EN55032:2012, stand alone monitors must be emissions tested with a standard television colour bar signal according to ITU-R BT 1729 with an additional small moving element. This signal is defined in ITU-R BT.1729 which gives a digital television reference test pattern. Does anyone have a source for a software routine that puts out the reference test pattern? Ideally, I would like the reference test pattern software with compiled executable files to support testing with each of the major operating systems like Windows, Solaris, and Linux. Thanks. Monrad Monsen - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
