Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

2016-10-27 Thread Ravinder Ajmani
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From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:32 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

That's what makes EMC so fascinating. If it were easy and predictable, how 
boring it would be.

With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only
www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates 
Rayleigh England

Sylvae in aeternum manent.

From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:01 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

I have several clients who’ve provided equipment that is used within UK/EU 
passenger airports and none had to meet any special EMC requirements for 
immunity. In fact, one product had more radiated immunity trouble in the EMC 
lab than it did in the field trial at the airport ☺

Radio transmitters operating in certain bands do have to meet strict emissions 
requirements to prevent blocking of radar receivers, which is a kind of reverse 
problem..

Regards
Charlie

From: john Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: 26 October 2016 22:54
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

Oh, and on a different tack, one might also want to enquire of the airport 
operators as to whether they have any special EMC-related requirements for 
stuff installed on their sites – not “regulatory” but might be “risk-related” 
based on their past experiences?

John E Allen
W.London, UK

From: Chuck August-McDowell [mailto:chu...@meyersound.com]
Sent: 26 October 2016 21:29
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

is there any other regulatory requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be 
installed in the airport terminals…

How about a NRTL Listed mark?

Chuck McDowell
Compliance Specialist
Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc.
Direct: 510-540-4670

From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:17 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

And there will be a lot of other fixed and mobile comms at various frequencies 
at any large US airport, and so I would look much wider than at just the radar 
frequency bands.

John E Allen
W.London, UK

From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com]
Sent: 26 October 2016 19:53
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

Maybe, but in any case I would look at immunity to frequencies used by airport 
radar.

With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only
www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates 
Rayleigh England

Sylvae in aeternum manent.

From: Grace Lin [mailto:graceli...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:12 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

Dear Members,

Other than FCC Part 15 Subpart B, is there any other regulatory 
requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be installed in the airport 
terminals?

Thank you very much!

Best regards,
Grace Lin
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Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

2016-10-27 Thread John Woodgate
That's what makes EMC so fascinating. If it were easy and predictable, how 
boring it would be.
 
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only
  www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and 
Associates Rayleigh England
 
Sylvae in aeternum manent.
 
From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:01 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US
 
I have several clients who’ve provided equipment that is used within UK/EU 
passenger airports and none had to meet any special EMC requirements for 
immunity. In fact, one product had more radiated immunity trouble in the EMC 
lab than it did in the field trial at the airport :)
 
Radio transmitters operating in certain bands do have to meet strict emissions 
requirements to prevent blocking of radar receivers, which is a kind of reverse 
problem..
 
Regards
Charlie
 
From: john Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] 
Sent: 26 October 2016 22:54
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG  
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US
 
Oh, and on a different tack, one might also want to enquire of the airport 
operators as to whether they have any special EMC-related requirements for 
stuff installed on their sites – not “regulatory” but might be “risk-related” 
based on their past experiences?
 
John E Allen
W.London, UK
 
From: Chuck August-McDowell [mailto:chu...@meyersound.com] 
Sent: 26 October 2016 21:29
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG  
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US
 
is there any other regulatory requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be 
installed in the airport terminals…
 
How about a NRTL Listed mark?
 
Chuck McDowell
Compliance Specialist 
Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc.
Direct: 510-540-4670
 
From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:17 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG  
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US
 
And there will be a lot of other fixed and mobile comms at various frequencies 
at any large US airport, and so I would look much wider than at just the radar 
frequency bands.
 
John E Allen
W.London, UK
 
From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 26 October 2016 19:53
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG  
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US
 
Maybe, but in any case I would look at immunity to frequencies used by airport 
radar.
 
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only
  www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and 
Associates Rayleigh England
 
Sylvae in aeternum manent.
 
From: Grace Lin [mailto:graceli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:12 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG  
Subject: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US
 
Dear Members,
 
Other than FCC Part 15 Subpart B, is there any other regulatory 
requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be installed in the airport 
terminals?
 
Thank you very much!
 
Best regards,
Grace Lin 
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Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

2016-10-27 Thread Charlie Blackham
I have several clients who’ve provided equipment that is used within UK/EU 
passenger airports and none had to meet any special EMC requirements for 
immunity. In fact, one product had more radiated immunity trouble in the EMC 
lab than it did in the field trial at the airport ☺

Radio transmitters operating in certain bands do have to meet strict emissions 
requirements to prevent blocking of radar receivers, which is a kind of reverse 
problem..

Regards
Charlie

From: john Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: 26 October 2016 22:54
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

Oh, and on a different tack, one might also want to enquire of the airport 
operators as to whether they have any special EMC-related requirements for 
stuff installed on their sites – not “regulatory” but might be “risk-related” 
based on their past experiences?

John E Allen
W.London, UK

From: Chuck August-McDowell [mailto:chu...@meyersound.com]
Sent: 26 October 2016 21:29
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

is there any other regulatory requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be 
installed in the airport terminals…

How about a NRTL Listed mark?

Chuck McDowell
Compliance Specialist
Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc.
Direct: 510-540-4670

From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:17 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

And there will be a lot of other fixed and mobile comms at various frequencies 
at any large US airport, and so I would look much wider than at just the radar 
frequency bands.

John E Allen
W.London, UK

From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com]
Sent: 26 October 2016 19:53
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

Maybe, but in any case I would look at immunity to frequencies used by airport 
radar.

With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only
www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates 
Rayleigh England

Sylvae in aeternum manent.

From: Grace Lin [mailto:graceli...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:12 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

Dear Members,

Other than FCC Part 15 Subpart B, is there any other regulatory 
requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be installed in the airport 
terminals?

Thank you very much!

Best regards,
Grace Lin
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Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

2016-10-26 Thread john Allen
Oh, and on a different tack, one might also want to enquire of the airport 
operators as to whether they have any special EMC-related requirements for 
stuff installed on their sites – not “regulatory” but might be “risk-related” 
based on their past experiences?

 

John E Allen

W.London, UK

 

From: Chuck August-McDowell [mailto:chu...@meyersound.com] 
Sent: 26 October 2016 21:29
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

 

is there any other regulatory requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be 
installed in the airport terminals…

 

How about a NRTL Listed mark?

 

Chuck McDowell

Compliance Specialist 

Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc.

Direct: 510-540-4670

 

From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:17 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

 

And there will be a lot of other fixed and mobile comms at various frequencies 
at any large US airport, and so I would look much wider than at just the radar 
frequency bands.

 

John E Allen

W.London, UK

 

From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 26 October 2016 19:53
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

 

Maybe, but in any case I would look at immunity to frequencies used by airport 
radar.

 

With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only

  www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and 
Associates Rayleigh England

 

Sylvae in aeternum manent.

 

From: Grace Lin [mailto:graceli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:12 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

 

Dear Members,

 

Other than FCC Part 15 Subpart B, is there any other regulatory 
requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be installed in the airport 
terminals?

 

Thank you very much!

 

Best regards,

Grace Lin 

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Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

2016-10-26 Thread Chuck August-McDowell
is there any other regulatory requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be 
installed in the airport terminals…

How about a NRTL Listed mark?

Chuck McDowell
Compliance Specialist
Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc.
Direct: 510-540-4670

From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:17 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

And there will be a lot of other fixed and mobile comms at various frequencies 
at any large US airport, and so I would look much wider than at just the radar 
frequency bands.

John E Allen
W.London, UK

From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com]
Sent: 26 October 2016 19:53
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

Maybe, but in any case I would look at immunity to frequencies used by airport 
radar.

With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only
www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates 
Rayleigh England

Sylvae in aeternum manent.

From: Grace Lin [mailto:graceli...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:12 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

Dear Members,

Other than FCC Part 15 Subpart B, is there any other regulatory 
requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be installed in the airport 
terminals?

Thank you very much!

Best regards,
Grace Lin
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Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

2016-10-26 Thread John Woodgate
Agreed, but the radar probably has the 'sharpest points' for getting into the 
equipment.
 
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only
  www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and 
Associates Rayleigh England
 
Sylvae in aeternum manent.
 
From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:17 PM
To: 'John Woodgate' ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US
 
And there will be a lot of other fixed and mobile comms at various frequencies 
at any large US airport, and so I would look much wider than at just the radar 
frequency bands.
 
John E Allen
W.London, UK
 
From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 26 October 2016 19:53
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG  
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US
 
Maybe, but in any case I would look at immunity to frequencies used by airport 
radar.
 
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only
  www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and 
Associates Rayleigh England
 
Sylvae in aeternum manent.
 
From: Grace Lin [mailto:graceli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:12 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG  
Subject: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US
 
Dear Members,
 
Other than FCC Part 15 Subpart B, is there any other regulatory 
requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be installed in the airport 
terminals?
 
Thank you very much!
 
Best regards,
Grace Lin 
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Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

2016-10-26 Thread john Allen
John W

 

Agree with that, although I suspect that the in-buildings locations for these 
terminals will be a little less “exposed”! J

 

John E Allen

W.London, UK

 

From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 26 October 2016 21:15
To: 'John Allen'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

 

Agreed, but the radar probably has the 'sharpest points' for getting into the 
equipment.

 

With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only

  www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and 
Associates Rayleigh England

 

Sylvae in aeternum manent.

 

From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:17 PM
To: 'John Woodgate' ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

 

And there will be a lot of other fixed and mobile comms at various frequencies 
at any large US airport, and so I would look much wider than at just the radar 
frequency bands.

 

John E Allen

W.London, UK

 

From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 26 October 2016 19:53
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

 

Maybe, but in any case I would look at immunity to frequencies used by airport 
radar.

 

With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only

  www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and 
Associates Rayleigh England

 

Sylvae in aeternum manent.

 

From: Grace Lin [mailto:graceli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:12 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

 

Dear Members,

 

Other than FCC Part 15 Subpart B, is there any other regulatory 
requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be installed in the airport 
terminals?

 

Thank you very much!

 

Best regards,

Grace Lin 

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Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

2016-10-26 Thread John Allen
And there will be a lot of other fixed and mobile comms at various frequencies 
at any large US airport, and so I would look much wider than at just the radar 
frequency bands.

 

John E Allen

W.London, UK

 

From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 26 October 2016 19:53
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

 

Maybe, but in any case I would look at immunity to frequencies used by airport 
radar.

 

With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only

  www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and 
Associates Rayleigh England

 

Sylvae in aeternum manent.

 

From: Grace Lin [mailto:graceli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:12 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

 

Dear Members,

 

Other than FCC Part 15 Subpart B, is there any other regulatory 
requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be installed in the airport 
terminals?

 

Thank you very much!

 

Best regards,

Grace Lin 

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Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

2016-10-26 Thread John Woodgate
Maybe, but in any case I would look at immunity to frequencies used by airport 
radar.
 
With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only
  www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and 
Associates Rayleigh England
 
Sylvae in aeternum manent.
 
From: Grace Lin [mailto:graceli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:12 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US
 
Dear Members,
 
Other than FCC Part 15 Subpart B, is there any other regulatory 
requirements/standards for an ITE kiosk to be installed in the airport 
terminals?
 
Thank you very much!
 
Best regards,
Grace Lin 
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