Re: EU law?

1997-02-23 Thread Paul Rampelbergh
HI Horst Haug and Patty Elliot

Looking true previous EMC mail I'll noticed your replay's:
Horst Haug wrote:
 ... I like the idea to control the market ...Patty Elliot wrote:
 ... the authorities have the right to verify the conformance ...

In view of your replay's, I have a simple question:

   In what priority order are the products checked?

As you all know for the moment (in Belgium, and be sure in your country
 it exists to) a lot of political, commercial practices and other special
  PROTECTIONs  are discovered and examined by several commissions.
 Those protections are ranging from corrupts to gentle influences...

So again In what priority order are the products checked? and are those
 checked in an unbiased priority order?

I know, good products don't have in theory not to worry about it, but
 are they all good or just are some ignored?

Sorry Horst Haug and Patty Elliot but I disagree with your statements.
 I don't own black money to have  favors  when my product is not that
 good, do you?

On the other side, who will pay for all those overdone and unrequired
 controls? You and me, don't forget it.

Do you not trust the honesty of your competitors? No, read back above
 considerations and find out if you solve them with your remarks.

To my opinion, only complains due to bad influences on (interference)
 or influences from (immunity) other products have to be taken in
 consideration for control of conformity to the rules.

Isn't that in fact the basic and general purpose of the EMC rules:
 - Protection against pollution and 
 - Assurance of reliable operation in that polluted world?


Horst Haug wrote:
 .
 the notified body has the duty to check, if the products on the
 market comply to the EMC directive.
 I like the idea to control the market, because it avoids advantages
 for manufacturer, which does not take care of the CE-mark and just
 stick the label on and ship without testing. It also forces the test
 houses to keep the quality level high.
  Horst

Patty Elliot wrote:
There does not have to be a complaint against your equipment in order for a
Notified Body to examine it.  European authorities have the right to take
off-the-shelf products and examine them for compliance to the directives.

The Declaration of Conformity that is shipped with your equipment is a legal
document that states your product complies with the directive(s), and the
authorities have the right to verify the conformance.
Patty Elliot

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Paul Rampelbergh
Wezembeek-Oppem (Belgium)
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Re: EU law?

1997-01-20 Thread Patty Elliot
Hello Therese,

There does not have to be a complaint against your equipment in order for a
Notified Body to examine it.  European authorities have the right to take
off-the-shelf products and examine them for compliance to the directives.
Germany and France are especially gung-ho on testing samples for the EMC
directive, regardless of whether or not there have been any complaints
against the equipment.

If you manufacture smaller, more portable equipment (such as a computer),
your  chance of being routinely audited is much greater than if you
manufacture large production-line equipment.

The Declaration of Conformity that is shipped with your equipment is a legal
document that states your product complies with the directive(s), and the
authorities have the right to verify the conformance.

Patty Elliot
TUV Rheinland of N.A.
(619) 792-2770
ell...@tuv.com

Personal opinion, not corporate
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At 11:54 AM 1/17/97 -0600, Therese A. Klein wrote:
I'm hoping someone could clarify the EU law.

I've been told a EU member's government agency has taken one of our
products to a Competent Body to verify conformance to the Directives.

My understanding of the law is that there must have been a complaint, or
incident, from a customer, for this to occur.  Or does that only apply
to competitors submitting competitive product for analysis?

As we all know, every Competent Body, and test lab can produce different
results.  

I will greatly appriciate any comments, thanks.

Therese Klein
EMC Project Engineer
Rockwell Automation
takl...@mke5.ra.rockwell.com