Re: VCCI - is it voluntary?
Agree, our company only recently became VCCI registered. The reason, the company we supply was already a member and required us to demonstrate compliance. John Juhasz wrote: On another note, many companies (both US and Japanese) belong to VCCI. As a member of VCCI, they pledge that the products that they market will be evaluated for compliance with the specifications, and be marked as such. So if you are planning on doing business with a VCCI member, you will be asked to demonstrate compliance. http://www.vcci.or.jp/vcci/vcci_e/faq/index.html John Juhasz Fiber Options Bohemia, NY -Original Message- From: Mowbray, John H [mailto:jm134...@exchange.canada.ncr.com] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:11 AM To: 'George Stults'; 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: RE: VCCI - is it voluntary? VCCI is a voluntary organization in that it is self-policing the ITE industry, and is not mandatory in a legal sense (you can't be dragged into court for non-compliance), BUT the Japanese consumers are aware of the mark and look for it. On the other side the failure to comply when you have attached the mark can result in the details being published in the popular press -- then try to sell ANYTHING there. John Mowbray, P. Eng. Senior EMC Engineer NCR Canada, Waterloo 580 Weber St. N. Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2J 4G5 519 884 1710 X5371 FAX: 519 884 0610 email: john.mowb...@ncr.com -- Andrew Carson - Product Safety Engineer Xyratex Engineering Laboratory Tele 023 92496855 Fax 023 92496014
RE: VCCI - is it voluntary?
On another note, many companies (both US and Japanese) belong to VCCI. As a member of VCCI, they pledge that the products that they market will be evaluated for compliance with the specifications, and be marked as such. So if you are planning on doing business with a VCCI member, you will be asked to demonstrate compliance. http://www.vcci.or.jp/vcci/vcci_e/faq/index.html John Juhasz Fiber Options Bohemia, NY -Original Message- From: Mowbray, John H [mailto:jm134...@exchange.canada.ncr.com] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:11 AM To: 'George Stults'; 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: RE: VCCI - is it voluntary? VCCI is a voluntary organization in that it is self-policing the ITE industry, and is not mandatory in a legal sense (you can't be dragged into court for non-compliance), BUT the Japanese consumers are aware of the mark and look for it. On the other side the failure to comply when you have attached the mark can result in the details being published in the popular press -- then try to sell ANYTHING there. John Mowbray, P. Eng. Senior EMC Engineer NCR Canada, Waterloo 580 Weber St. N. Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2J 4G5 519 884 1710 X5371 FAX: 519 884 0610 email: john.mowb...@ncr.com
RE: VCCI - is it voluntary?
George, My understanding is that if anyone in the distribution chain is registered with the VCCI, then they are obliged to distribute VCCI compliant products. So you should check you distribution to chain, mfg.-wholesaler-distributor-customer, to see if any is registered with the VCCI. In summary, if anyone in the chain is VCCI registered, that is when it becomes involuntary, and your device, being the mfg., must be compliant to the standard and labeled properly. ~ Sam Wismer Lead Regulatory Engineer/ Radio Approvals Engineer LXE, Inc. (770) 447-4224 Ext. 3654 Visit Our Website at: http://www.ems-t.com -Original Message- From: acar...@uk.xyratex.com [mailto:acar...@uk.xyratex.com] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:20 AM To: George Stults Cc: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: Re: VCCI - is it voluntary? George VCCI registration is voluntary. You do not need it to sell in Japan. BUT like so many other things, the VCCI mark is now seen as a sign of quality and you may find it hard to sell products in Japan without the mark. George Stults wrote: Hi All, Just a basic question here about VCCI, hopefully it hasn't been done recently. In the acronym VCCI, (Voluntary Control Council for Interference) the first word is 'Voluntary.' I have assumed that VCCI is a defacto standard in spite of being called 'Voluntary,' but I don't know how to prove it - and of course I could be wrong. Does anyone know of a specific document or clause or line of argument that clearly spells out whether or not VCCI is a requirement to sell ITE products in Japan? Thanks in advance for comments. George Stults --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall, -- Andrew Carson - Product Safety Engineer Xyratex Engineering Laboratory Tele 023 92496855 Fax 023 92496014 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall, attachment: Sam_Wismer.vcf
RE: VCCI - is it voluntary?
VCCI is a voluntary organization in that it is self-policing the ITE industry, and is not mandatory in a legal sense (you can't be dragged into court for non-compliance), BUT the Japanese consumers are aware of the mark and look for it. On the other side the failure to comply when you have attached the mark can result in the details being published in the popular press -- then try to sell ANYTHING there. John Mowbray, P. Eng. Senior EMC Engineer NCR Canada, Waterloo 580 Weber St. N. Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2J 4G5 519 884 1710 X5371 FAX: 519 884 0610 email: john.mowb...@ncr.com -Original Message- From: George Stults [mailto:george.stu...@watchguard.com] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 6:15 PM To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: VCCI - is it voluntary? Hi All, Just a basic question here about VCCI, hopefully it hasn't been done recently. In the acronym VCCI, (Voluntary Control Council for Interference) the first word is 'Voluntary.' I have assumed that VCCI is a defacto standard in spite of being called 'Voluntary,' but I don't know how to prove it - and of course I could be wrong. Does anyone know of a specific document or clause or line of argument that clearly spells out whether or not VCCI is a requirement to sell ITE products in Japan? Thanks in advance for comments. George Stults --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall, --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall,
Re: VCCI - is it voluntary?
George VCCI registration is voluntary. You do not need it to sell in Japan. BUT like so many other things, the VCCI mark is now seen as a sign of quality and you may find it hard to sell products in Japan without the mark. George Stults wrote: Hi All, Just a basic question here about VCCI, hopefully it hasn't been done recently. In the acronym VCCI, (Voluntary Control Council for Interference) the first word is 'Voluntary.' I have assumed that VCCI is a defacto standard in spite of being called 'Voluntary,' but I don't know how to prove it - and of course I could be wrong. Does anyone know of a specific document or clause or line of argument that clearly spells out whether or not VCCI is a requirement to sell ITE products in Japan? Thanks in advance for comments. George Stults --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall, -- Andrew Carson - Product Safety Engineer Xyratex Engineering Laboratory Tele 023 92496855 Fax 023 92496014 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall,
VCCI - is it voluntary?
Hi All, Just a basic question here about VCCI, hopefully it hasn't been done recently. In the acronym VCCI, (Voluntary Control Council for Interference) the first word is 'Voluntary.' I have assumed that VCCI is a defacto standard in spite of being called 'Voluntary,' but I don't know how to prove it - and of course I could be wrong. Does anyone know of a specific document or clause or line of argument that clearly spells out whether or not VCCI is a requirement to sell ITE products in Japan? Thanks in advance for comments. George Stults --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on Virtual Conference Hall,
