[Emc-users] Website Found

2008-06-21 Thread Kirk Wallace
I found this website today. It might be of interest to some.

http://www.cncinformation.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

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Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam TNG V0.0.24 for Linux released

2008-06-21 Thread Art Eckstein
I just checked on my system also, and sure enough, there is no 
extension on the g-code file.
Again, this is on Ubuntu 8.04

Art

   At 10:31 AM 6/21/2008, you wrote:
>Les,
>
>I have been trying all the options and trying to break SheetCam TNG 
>for linux but
>nothing has broken so far. The only thing I noticed so far is when 
>saving the post it
>didn't tack on the .ngc extension.
>
>John


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Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam TNG V0.0.24 for Linux released

2008-06-21 Thread Emory Smith
Even I got installed and working!
Thanks for putting in the time and trouble.
It really looks nice. Planning to play with it tomorrow.

Emory

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Leslie Newell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I am glad that fixed it. It is slightly embarassing to release something
> that mungs people's machines :-[
>
> LEs
>
>
> Eric H. Johnson wrote:
> > Les,
> >
> > The new sheetcamlibs package did the trick. Both sheetcam and the
> packaging
> > system seem to be working fine.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eric
> >
>
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Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam TNG V0.0.24 for Linux released

2008-06-21 Thread Leslie Newell
I am glad that fixed it. It is slightly embarassing to release something 
that mungs people's machines :-[

LEs


Eric H. Johnson wrote:
> Les,
>
> The new sheetcamlibs package did the trick. Both sheetcam and the packaging
> system seem to be working fine.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
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Re: [Emc-users] Rookie help

2008-06-21 Thread Greg Michalski
I had a board running a Celeron that did the same thing.  The 2.8G (IIRC)
Pentium had crappier results than the 650MHZ P3 curbside find I am running.
Fix the latency first.  You may end up changing building blocks that have a
domino effect on other items (parallel port addresses, etc.)

 

My .02

 

Greg

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Morley
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:07 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Rookie help

 

Hi Jack.

What version of emc2 are you using? There was some quirks with stepconf on
earlier versions-make sure you have the latest version.
The latency test is not really to see how slow/fast your computer is, it is
to see how late it is on scheduled tasks.
Sounds like your computer can be really late. You need to fix this before
doing any serious work as it could cause missed steps which will ruin your
work.


> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:48:20 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Rookie help
> 
> On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 21:59 -0500, Jack wrote:
> > I have EMC2 installed on an old Compaq iPaq desktop running Ubuntu 6.06
from
> > the EMC2 install CD, driving a HobbyCNC controller and gantry with Kirk
lead
> > screws.
> > 
> > When I use the sample stepper_inch config it works, but I need to tweak
the 
> > configuration some to change the stepping (thread pitch, etc) but when I
try
> > to generate my own using the config tool in Axis, it just doesn't work.
> > 
> > Suggestions? 
> > 
> > I figure this is probably something dumb I am doing, and I am willing to
> > RTFM, I just need some direction.
> 
> You might try the pitch change to your working sample file. Just edit
> the SCALE = XX to match your lead pitch and motor/screw ratio. This
> will change the step rate requirement for a given axis rate, so you
> might reach your stepping rate limit earlier or later.
> 
> Compare the working and stepconfig file differences and add each change
> to the working file until it doesn't work, then research the last
> feature you changed.
> 
> > With the sample config, it is jogging back and forth OK, but it is not
set
> > for the right threads per inch for the lead screws.
> 
> You may be stalling your steppers because the stepping rate may have
> changed. You may need to find the max stepping rate (not axis feed
> rate), then tune different settings to to maximize it. Once you find the
> maximum rate, adjust your maximum axis feed rates to stay below the
> stepping maximums minus a safety factor.
> 
> > Once I get this working, next comes home and limit switches and a
hardware 
> > emergency switch.
> > 
> > The latency test runs, but if I do try to use the computer, sometimes
the
> > numbers go out of sight. 'Normally' it runs about 15000. When it goes
'crazy' It
> > reads over a million. My 500MHz celeron may be to slow, but it is what I
am
> > playing with for now.
> > 
> > Thanks. ... Jack
> 
> In my opinion, you need to fix the latency test problems first, so that
> you have a stable system that will give you more consistent behavior.
> Check items 2 and 5 here:
> 
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TroubleShooting
> 
> and:
> 
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TweakingSoftwareStepGeneration
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Stepper_Drive_Timing
> 
> Another issue that may come up with larger machines, with fine pitch
> screws, high (low?) motor/screw gearing or high feed rates, which
> translate to higher step rates. The PC parallel port tends to be too
> slow. You may need to consider going to a hardware step generator like
> the Pluto-P, Pico UPC, or others.
> 
> -- 
> Kirk Wallace (California, USA
> http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ 
> Hardinge HNC/EMC CNC lathe,
> Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now,
> Zubal lathe conversion pending
> Craftsman AA 109 restoration
> Shizuoka ST-N/EMC CNC)
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest

2008-06-21 Thread samco
Internet at the fest has been down since yesterday :(
(the phone compay is working on it)

sam

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:57:12 +0100
 "John Prentice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey you guys on the web-cam at Galesburg it's time to
> wake up  - 17:55 UTC 
> on 20th here at present - you need to work up an appetite
> for the BBQ
> 
> John Prentice
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jon Elson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest
> 
> 
> > Jeff Epler wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 11:02:05PM -0500, Jon Elson
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Great!  Where's the webcam?
> >>
> >>
> >> http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/festcam.shtml
> > HUH!  Bunch of pikers - where the heck are you?  All I
> see are
> > empty chairs!
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam TNG V0.0.24 for Linux released

2008-06-21 Thread John Thornton
Les,

I have been trying all the options and trying to break SheetCam TNG for linux 
but 
nothing has broken so far. The only thing I noticed so far is when saving the 
post it 
didn't tack on the .ngc extension.

John

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Re: [Emc-users] Rookie help

2008-06-21 Thread Chris Morley

Hi Jack.

What version of emc2 are you using? There was some quirks with stepconf on 
earlier versions-make sure you have the latest version.
The latency test is not really to see how slow/fast your computer is, it is to 
see how late it is on scheduled tasks.
Sounds like your computer can be really late. You need to fix this before doing 
any serious work as it could cause missed steps which will ruin your work.


> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:48:20 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Rookie help
> 
> On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 21:59 -0500, Jack wrote:
> > I have EMC2 installed on an old Compaq iPaq desktop running Ubuntu 6.06 from
> > the EMC2 install CD, driving a HobbyCNC controller and gantry with Kirk lead
> > screws.
> > 
> > When I use the sample stepper_inch config it works, but I need to tweak the 
> > configuration some to change the stepping (thread pitch, etc) but when I try
> > to generate my own using the config tool in Axis, it just doesn't work.
> > 
> > Suggestions? 
> > 
> > I figure this is probably something dumb I am doing, and I am willing to
> > RTFM, I just need some direction.
> 
> You might try the pitch change to your working sample file. Just edit
> the SCALE = XX to match your lead pitch and motor/screw ratio. This
> will change the step rate requirement for a given axis rate, so you
> might reach your stepping rate limit earlier or later.
> 
> Compare the working and stepconfig file differences and add each change
> to the working file until it doesn't work, then research the last
> feature you changed.
> 
> > With the sample config, it is jogging back and forth OK, but it is not set
> > for the right threads per inch for the lead screws.
> 
> You may be stalling your steppers because the stepping rate may have
> changed. You may need to find the max stepping rate (not axis feed
> rate), then tune different settings to to maximize it. Once you find the
> maximum rate, adjust your maximum axis feed rates to stay below the
> stepping maximums minus a safety factor.
> 
> > Once I get this working, next comes home and limit switches and a hardware 
> > emergency switch.
> > 
> > The latency test runs, but if I do try to use the computer, sometimes the
> > numbers go out of sight.  'Normally' it runs about 15000.  When it goes 
> > 'crazy' It
> > reads over a million.  My 500MHz celeron may be to slow, but it is what I am
> > playing with for now.
> > 
> > Thanks. ... Jack
> 
> In my opinion, you need to fix the latency test problems first, so that
> you have a stable system that will give you more consistent behavior.
> Check items 2 and 5 here:
> 
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TroubleShooting
> 
> and:
> 
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TweakingSoftwareStepGeneration
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Stepper_Drive_Timing
> 
> Another issue that may come up with larger machines, with fine pitch
> screws, high (low?) motor/screw gearing or high feed rates, which
> translate to higher step rates. The PC parallel port tends to be too
> slow. You may need to consider going to a hardware step generator like
> the Pluto-P, Pico UPC, or others.
> 
> -- 
> Kirk Wallace (California, USA
> http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ 
> Hardinge HNC/EMC CNC lathe,
> Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now,
> Zubal lathe conversion pending
> Craftsman AA 109 restoration
> Shizuoka ST-N/EMC CNC)
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] Rookie help

2008-06-21 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 21:59 -0500, Jack wrote:
> I have EMC2 installed on an old Compaq iPaq desktop running Ubuntu 6.06 from
> the EMC2 install CD, driving a HobbyCNC controller and gantry with Kirk lead
> screws.
> 
> When I use the sample stepper_inch config it works, but I need to tweak the 
> configuration some to change the stepping (thread pitch, etc) but when I try
> to generate my own using the config tool in Axis, it just doesn't work.
> 
> Suggestions? 
> 
> I figure this is probably something dumb I am doing, and I am willing to
> RTFM, I just need some direction.

You might try the pitch change to your working sample file. Just edit
the SCALE = XX to match your lead pitch and motor/screw ratio. This
will change the step rate requirement for a given axis rate, so you
might reach your stepping rate limit earlier or later.

Compare the working and stepconfig file differences and add each change
to the working file until it doesn't work, then research the last
feature you changed.

> With the sample config, it is jogging back and forth OK, but it is not set
> for the right threads per inch for the lead screws.

You may be stalling your steppers because the stepping rate may have
changed. You may need to find the max stepping rate (not axis feed
rate), then tune different settings to to maximize it. Once you find the
maximum rate, adjust your maximum axis feed rates to stay below the
stepping maximums minus a safety factor.

> Once I get this working, next comes home and limit switches and a hardware 
> emergency switch.
> 
> The latency test runs, but if I do try to use the computer, sometimes the
> numbers go out of sight.  'Normally' it runs about 15000.  When it goes 
> 'crazy' It
> reads over a million.  My 500MHz celeron may be to slow, but it is what I am
> playing with for now.
> 
> Thanks. ... Jack

In my opinion, you need to fix the latency test problems first, so that
you have a stable system that will give you more consistent behavior.
Check items 2 and 5 here:

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TroubleShooting

and:

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TweakingSoftwareStepGeneration
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Stepper_Drive_Timing

Another issue that may come up with larger machines, with fine pitch
screws, high (low?) motor/screw gearing or high feed rates, which
translate to higher step rates. The PC parallel port tends to be too
slow. You may need to consider going to a hardware step generator like
the Pluto-P, Pico UPC, or others.

-- 
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http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ 
Hardinge HNC/EMC CNC lathe,
Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now,
Zubal lathe conversion pending
Craftsman AA 109 restoration
Shizuoka ST-N/EMC CNC)


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Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam TNG V0.0.24 for Linux released

2008-06-21 Thread Eric H. Johnson
John,

It is my development system which is used for more things than just EMC. In
fact I don't run EMC from this machine other than testing, it is only used
to compile from source.

Regards,
Eric

>> Why did you install the workstation version vs the standard one that
comes packaged with >> EMC2?



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Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam TNG V0.0.24 for Linux released

2008-06-21 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Les,

The new sheetcamlibs package did the trick. Both sheetcam and the packaging
system seem to be working fine.

Thanks,
Eric

I replied before but it didn't seem to get through. I think I have found a
problem with the sheetcamlibs package. Try downloading and installing the
sheetcamlibs package again.

If you still get the error, open a terminal and enter the following:
sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq sheetcamlibs You will probably have to
enter your password.
Hopefully that should force dpkg to delete the package.




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Re: [Emc-users] Sheetcam

2008-06-21 Thread Leslie Newell
Hi Aaron,

How long ago did you download? I did find a problem with the 
sheetcamlibs package last night. It is hopefully now fixed.

Les

aaron Moore wrote:
> HI
> Trying to intsall Sheetcam TNG onto a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04.  When I 
> double click on .deb file it says the package might be corrupted or you are 
> not allowed to open the file.  I have downloaded and changed permission 
> several times but no luck. 
> Is there a solution 
> Thanks
> Aaron
>
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Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam TNG V0.0.24 for Linux released

2008-06-21 Thread Leslie Newell
Hi Eric,

I think I have found a problem with the sheetcamlibs package. Try 
downloading and installing the sheetcamlibs package again.

If you still get the error, open a terminal and enter the following:
sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq sheetcamlibs
You will probably have to enter your password.
Hopefully that should force dpkg to delete the package.

Sorry about that,
Les



Eric H. Johnson wrote:
> Les,
>
> Sorry to report, but loading sheetcam seems to have severely affected
> packaging functions (apt-get, synaptic, etc). Both the packages sheetcamlibs
> and sheetcam installed with errors, but sheetcam itself seems to be working.
> The problem is, synaptic, apt-get, etc. now do not.
>
> I am running a fresh install of Ubuntu 6.06 workstation. The only other
> application installed since the install of the OS was EMC.
>
> If I run synaptic, or apt-get, I continually get the error "E: The package
> sheetcamlibs needs to be reinstalled, but I cannot find an archive for it".
> It then prevents the installing, removing etc. of any other packages.
>
> Synaptic further gives an error of "E: Internal error opening cache(1).
> Please report".
>
> Thereafter synaptic lists no packages and in the status bar shows:
> 0 packages listed, -1 installed, 0 broken.
>
> I have also been equally unsuccessful in removing sheetcamlibs and sheetcam,
> which again fail on the same message.
>
> Any advice appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Eric
>
>
> I have just uploaded the Linux version of 0.0.24 to www.sheetcam.com.
> This release now comes as a Debian package (.deb). This covers all of the
> Debian derivatives such as Ubuntu, Knoppix etc. If you can't use .debs then
> let me know and I'll see what I can sort out. I do intend to support RPMs in
> the near future. In many distros, simply clicking on the package in your
> browser will install it.
>
> The Linux version comes as two packages, the libraries and the application
> files. The libraries (sheetcamlibs-2.8.7.deb) need to be installed first.
> Once they are installed you should not have to install them again for quite
> a while. The application, SheetCamTNG-0.0.24.deb will change with every
> release.
>
> If you already have the Autopackage version installed, here is how to
> uninstall it:
> Open a terminal. In Ubunto it is in Applications->Accessories->Terminal.
> Enter the following:
> package remove SheetCamTNG
> package remove wxlualibs
> package remove wxgtk
>
> If you want to remove Autopackage itself then enter:
> package remove autopackage
> package remove autopackage
> The first time removes the graphical front end, the second time removes
> Autopackage itself.
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[Emc-users] Rookie help

2008-06-21 Thread Jack
I have EMC2 installed on an old Compaq iPaq desktop running Ubuntu 6.06 from

the EMC2 install CD, driving a HobbyCNC controller and gantry with Kirk lead

screws.

When I use the sample stepper_inch config it works, but I need to tweak the 
configuration some to change the stepping (thread pitch, etc) but when I try

to generate my own using the config tool in Axis, it just doesn't work.

Suggestions? 

I figure this is probably something dumb I am doing, and I am willing to
RTFM, 
I just need some direction.

With the sample config, it is jogging back and forth OK, but it is not set
for
the right threads per inch for the lead screws.

Once I get this working, next comes home and limit switches and a hardware 
emergency switch.

The latency test runs, but if I do try to use the computer, sometimes the
numbers
go out of sight.  'Normally' it runs about 15000.  When it goes 'crazy' It
reads
over a million.  My 500MHz celeron may be to slow, but it is what I am
playing
with for now.

Thanks. ... Jack


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[Emc-users] Sheetcam

2008-06-21 Thread aaron Moore
HI
Trying to intsall Sheetcam TNG onto a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04.  When I 
double click on .deb file it says the package might be corrupted or you are not 
allowed to open the file.  I have downloaded and changed permission several 
times but no luck. 
Is there a solution 
Thanks
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