[Emc-users] [OT] automatic chucks
Hi All Has anyone come up with, or seen, a novel way to make an automatic lathe chuck? These devices, hydraulic or pneumatic, are eye wateringly expensive. Getting something in and out of the chuck is one of the main sticking points in a small scale automation lathe. While one could often get away with two fixed jaws and the third activated, it still requires a lot of fiddling between jobs. Collet draw-in chucks are too limited in their scope. Possibly the easiest way is to have a motor with reduction drive mounted on the carrige at centre height, and perpendicular to the Z. The drive shaft is ended with a square. The chuck would rotate into position, and the drive shaft motioned into place and the chuck opened and closed much as one would do manually. This way, you could; - tighten each jaw if you wanted to - control the clamping force - open/close the chuck over it's full range without having to adjust jaws between jobs - still allow manual operation Any ideas? Regards Roland PS, the load/unload robot is a seperate issue;) -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] need sample contouring program
Probably not the same version, but should help for something. http://dsplabs.upt.ro/~juve/emc/tux/ Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Belli Button be...@iafrica.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 09:26 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] need sample contouring program Oh, that's great! Won't you post the .stl somewhere, I few of us would like to cut it on our Windows/Mach machines. - Original Message - From: Steve Stallings steve...@newsguy.com To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] need sample contouring program How about the 3D model of CHIPS (our version of TUX) that was created by Rab as an STL file? I have a copy of the STL somewhere. Steve Stallings -Original Message- From: Jon Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:08 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] need sample contouring program Hello, all, I will be demo-ing EMC2 at the NAMES show in April. I wanted to have some contouring program to show the fast EMC2 block processing rate. Does anyone have anything interesting that I could maybe cut out of wax that has a lot of short vectors? The machine will be a 150 Lb minimill, so it has a 4 limit in the Y axis. I could probably code up something that writes G-code to carve a hemisphere or something like that, but if somebody has a more interesting surface that might be good. I need to re-scale the penguin and try that, too. Jon -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.10/1994 - Release Date: 03/10/09 19:51:00 -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] need sample contouring program
got some wicked 3d scans. courtesy of inspeck 3d scanner... anyone interested can check them here http://aladigital.blogspot.com specifically the shot at the bottom of the page with the kid's head should be fine - the other ones are for Monticello and may have some issues with copyrights etc... also if anyone does carve these say in styrofoam and wants to send one to the guy he would probably flip - we don't actually have the capability readily available AP On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Belli Button be...@iafrica.com wrote: Oh, that's great! Won't you post the .stl somewhere, I few of us would like to cut it on our Windows/Mach machines. - Original Message - From: Steve Stallings steve...@newsguy.com To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] need sample contouring program How about the 3D model of CHIPS (our version of TUX) that was created by Rab as an STL file? I have a copy of the STL somewhere. Steve Stallings -Original Message- From: Jon Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:08 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] need sample contouring program Hello, all, I will be demo-ing EMC2 at the NAMES show in April. I wanted to have some contouring program to show the fast EMC2 block processing rate. Does anyone have anything interesting that I could maybe cut out of wax that has a lot of short vectors? The machine will be a 150 Lb minimill, so it has a 4 limit in the Y axis. I could probably code up something that writes G-code to carve a hemisphere or something like that, but if somebody has a more interesting surface that might be good. I need to re-scale the penguin and try that, too. Jon -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.10/1994 - Release Date: 03/10/09 19:51:00 -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- --- ansondparker (skype) ansondparker (crossloop.com) Rock on -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How can I get emc toautomatically run g-code without an operator?
I finally got it working! Thanks Eric. Emcrsh is really quite neat. A couple of observations though - 1. I checked the source code for emcrsh and it hard codes the relative path ../../nc_files. I think this doesn't make sense since it precludes absolute paths and creates confusion by implementing relative paths and hardcoded directories. I would either leave the path off or allow it to be a parameter to emcrsh. Also the path is different from the path specified in the .hal file. 2. When a file is finally opened the telnet session gets an ACK but the Axis screen doesn't refresh. The filename on the title bar changes but the code and the image in the path window doesn't update. This certainly doesn't give you the warm fuzzy feeling that the right thing is going to happen when you hit run! 3. Perhaps it is because my print out of the help text split task_plan_init onto two pages but I wouldn't have guessed that I needed to set task_plan_init before opening a file. I think this may have been the reason that my previous attempts at moving nc_files around and trying to open my test didn't work. Since I'm not sure how you can open a file without calling task_plan_init maybe open should call it automatically. 4. Occasionally when emc initializes it doesn't allow connections through port 5007. I'm not sure how to reproduce this but it happens about 1 in 5 times. Thanks again for everything - Mike -Original Message- From: Eric H. Johnson [mailto:ejohn...@camalytics.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:04 PM To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: Re: [Emc-users] How can I get emc toautomatically run g-code without an operator? Michael, Sorry, I was responding from memory and gave you the wrong path. It is relative to the nc_files folder ($HOME/emc2/nc_files by default). At any rate do the following: In your hal file add the line: loadusr emcrsh IOW, with no parameters. To get it going we will use all of the defaults. For testing purposes you can use the sim tkemc configuration. Just add the above to core_sim.hal in the configs/sim folder. Then telnet in and issue the following commands: hello EMC client 1.0 set echo off set verbose on set enable EMCTOO set task_plan_init set mode auto set open examples/3D_Chips.ngc This should load the 3D_Chips.ngc example program. I turned verbose on so that you get more informative error messages. The remainder is the sequence I use when loading a new program. Regards, Eric Eric, Thanks for the response but I still can't convince the set open test.ngc command to work. I've moved the nc_files directory all over the machine to no avail. The relative directory error message, of course, is less than helpful. I think the trick will be to get the -ini method working. If I could explicitly specify the path then debugging would be easier. Has anyone gotten the set open method working on Ubuntu? If so, please shed some light. Rafael, I think your points are valid but they don't simply apply to linux novices. Relative paths without a well documented root are difficult to work with and confusing even to folks like me with 30 years of software experience! -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How can I get emc toautomatically run g-code without an operator?
Hi Michael, 2. When a file is finally opened the telnet session gets an ACK but the Axis screen doesn't refresh. The filename on the title bar changes but the code and the image in the path window doesn't update. This certainly doesn't give you the warm fuzzy feeling that the right thing is going to happen when you hit run! That is to be expected. emcrsh and Axis are independent applications and know nothing about each other. The only common factor is that they are both talking to the same realtime code. If you load a file in Axis then load a different one in emcrsh then press run in Axis, the last file loaded will be the one that runs, though Axis will display the original file. Do you actually need Axis? Emcrsh will run quite happily on it's own. 4. Occasionally when emc initializes it doesn't allow connections through port 5007. I'm not sure how to reproduce this but it happens about 1 in 5 times. I've had this occasionally, especially if I have managed to kill emcrsh for some reason. I never got to the bottom of it. Unfortunately that project is on hold for the time being. Too many other things to do :-( Les -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How can I get emc toautomatically run g-code without an operator?
Leslie, all good points. The issue with number 2 is that it partially works. The title bar changes the name of the script but nothing else refreshes. This seems to me to be more of a bug since Axis knows the script changed and, in fact, knows the name of the new script. I won't need Axis once the machine is fully boxed up and stuck in a coffee table and runs headless. For debugging and moving things around Axis has been fantastic. In terms of connection problems I'm hoping this doesn't become a problem when the machine goes headless. Too many things to do is a blessing (until I need help getting the program working!) Also, I've been writing quite a bit of python code to do all sorts of fun things - Control the table using a web interface Command line arguments for truetype-tracer (with special sorting for non-z-axis machines) Chain class that works with chains of points (polylines) that converts to g-code Pattern classes - spiral, sun, maze, text, lissajous, spirograph, fractals all optimized for non-z-axis machines Thanks - Mike -Original Message- From: Leslie Newell [mailto:les.new...@fastmail.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:40 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] How can I get emc toautomatically run g-code without an operator? Hi Michael, 2. When a file is finally opened the telnet session gets an ACK but the Axis screen doesn't refresh. The filename on the title bar changes but the code and the image in the path window doesn't update. This certainly doesn't give you the warm fuzzy feeling that the right thing is going to happen when you hit run! That is to be expected. emcrsh and Axis are independent applications and know nothing about each other. The only common factor is that they are both talking to the same realtime code. If you load a file in Axis then load a different one in emcrsh then press run in Axis, the last file loaded will be the one that runs, though Axis will display the original file. Do you actually need Axis? Emcrsh will run quite happily on it's own. 4. Occasionally when emc initializes it doesn't allow connections through port 5007. I'm not sure how to reproduce this but it happens about 1 in 5 times. I've had this occasionally, especially if I have managed to kill emcrsh for some reason. I never got to the bottom of it. Unfortunately that project is on hold for the time being. Too many other things to do :-( Les -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How can I get emc to automatically run g-code without an operator?
Michael, A quick preface before addressing your individual points. Emcrsh basically just ported the functionality of emcsh to a telnet type interface. IOW, the tk/tcl interface was replaced by a socket interface. So in most cases the reason it does what it does and separates the commands out the way that it does is because that was the way it was done in emcsh. I finally got it working! Thanks Eric. Emcrsh is really quite neat. Great, that interface had two primary objectives. 1 Make the simplest possible network interface 2 Use a standard protocol independent of the particular version of EMC running. A couple of observations though - 1. I checked the source code for emcrsh and it hard codes the relative path ../../nc_files. I think this doesn't make sense since it precludes absolute paths and creates confusion by implementing relative paths and hardcoded directories. I would either leave the path off or allow it to be a parameter to emcrsh. Also the path is different from the path specified in the .hal file. I don't remember if I added that, or if that was how it was done in emcsh at the time I ported the code. I can add a command line parameter to allow specifying the path to use for the g-code files. 2. When a file is finally opened the telnet session gets an ACK but the Axis screen doesn't refresh. The filename on the title bar changes but the code and the image in the path window doesn't update. This certainly doesn't give you the warm fuzzy feeling that the right thing is going to happen when you hit run! As Les already pointed out, they are separate entities and can at times compete with each other. Another thing you will find is that operator and error messages will get snagged by the first one in and missed by the other application. Usually Axis will get it first because it typically has a faster update rate. That was among the reasons I suggested using TkEMC to get it going. TkEMC and emcrsh use fundamentally the same interface, and in fact share some common code (shcom.cc), so they get along much better. 3. Perhaps it is because my print out of the help text split task_plan_init onto two pages but I wouldn't have guessed that I needed to set task_plan_init before opening a file. I think this may have been the reason that my previous attempts at moving nc_files around and trying to open my test didn't work. Since I'm not sure how you can open a file without calling task_plan_init maybe open should call it automatically. I had completely forgotten about that until I dumped a log file to see the exact commands I send when doing an open. The reason it is not called automatically is because that is the way it was done in emcsh. Which does not mean that we can't change it. 4. Occasionally when emc initializes it doesn't allow connections through port 5007. I'm not sure how to reproduce this but it happens about 1 in 5 times. I have seen that too, but have not been ablt to isolate the cause. Whether it is in the shutdown code of emcrsh or something about how EMC shuts down in general. Regards, Eric -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How can I get emc to automatically run g-codewithout an operator?
The history of the code is quite helpful and explains a lot. Just to be clear, I'm not complaining! Because of all of the fine work on emc I now have a fully functional machine and it took very little effort to get there. I was the CTO at a very large corporation for many years so I have a nasty habit of trying to make any software (and hardware) I touch better if possible. A command line argument to emcrsh would be very helpful and so would finding the port shutdown/initialization bug. The directory issue is easy to work around by using symbolic links. The port issue may prove much harder. The other issues are relatively minor and now that I understand them they don't interfere at all. They may eventually affect other people though and should be kept in mind. I'm very thankful for all of your help and I really think this is one of the coolest examples of open source out there. - Mike -Original Message- From: Eric H. Johnson [mailto:ejohn...@camalytics.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:16 AM To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: Re: [Emc-users] How can I get emc to automatically run g-codewithout an operator? Michael, A quick preface before addressing your individual points. Emcrsh basically just ported the functionality of emcsh to a telnet type interface. IOW, the tk/tcl interface was replaced by a socket interface. So in most cases the reason it does what it does and separates the commands out the way that it does is because that was the way it was done in emcsh. I finally got it working! Thanks Eric. Emcrsh is really quite neat. Great, that interface had two primary objectives. 1 Make the simplest possible network interface 2 Use a standard protocol independent of the particular version of EMC running. A couple of observations though - 1. I checked the source code for emcrsh and it hard codes the relative path ../../nc_files. I think this doesn't make sense since it precludes absolute paths and creates confusion by implementing relative paths and hardcoded directories. I would either leave the path off or allow it to be a parameter to emcrsh. Also the path is different from the path specified in the .hal file. I don't remember if I added that, or if that was how it was done in emcsh at the time I ported the code. I can add a command line parameter to allow specifying the path to use for the g-code files. 2. When a file is finally opened the telnet session gets an ACK but the Axis screen doesn't refresh. The filename on the title bar changes but the code and the image in the path window doesn't update. This certainly doesn't give you the warm fuzzy feeling that the right thing is going to happen when you hit run! As Les already pointed out, they are separate entities and can at times compete with each other. Another thing you will find is that operator and error messages will get snagged by the first one in and missed by the other application. Usually Axis will get it first because it typically has a faster update rate. That was among the reasons I suggested using TkEMC to get it going. TkEMC and emcrsh use fundamentally the same interface, and in fact share some common code (shcom.cc), so they get along much better. 3. Perhaps it is because my print out of the help text split task_plan_init onto two pages but I wouldn't have guessed that I needed to set task_plan_init before opening a file. I think this may have been the reason that my previous attempts at moving nc_files around and trying to open my test didn't work. Since I'm not sure how you can open a file without calling task_plan_init maybe open should call it automatically. I had completely forgotten about that until I dumped a log file to see the exact commands I send when doing an open. The reason it is not called automatically is because that is the way it was done in emcsh. Which does not mean that we can't change it. 4. Occasionally when emc initializes it doesn't allow connections through port 5007. I'm not sure how to reproduce this but it happens about 1 in 5 times. I have seen that too, but have not been ablt to isolate the cause. Whether it is in the shutdown code of emcrsh or something about how EMC shuts down in general. Regards, Eric -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are
Re: [Emc-users] need sample contouring program
Why not start with a photo of yourself and use the Image-to-Gcode feature. That should generate a bas releif of your choice I would suspect. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19
Booth 15 at NAMES will be ours for demonstrating/promoting/distributing EMC. This is in the back, with Jon Elson and Steve Stallings in nearby booths to the sides. For better or worse, the person I spoke to at NAMES felt vender status was appropriate (due to distribution of software, even if given out free); it sounds like something to work on changing for next year (Ron Ginger's connections would be valuable). For this year, consider it my donation to one of the coolest examples of open source out there (as a recent post put it). Please let me know if you would like to take a shift or two in the booth; create a handout, banner, or sign; demo a system with EMC; or have other thoughts about how to promote EMC. Of course, many other exhibitors and venders will be running EMC systems elsewhere. This is a chance to place the emphasis on EMC itself. Right now there will be at least an Emco F1 mill, and hopefully at least one other PC running Axis for off-line demos. Steve Stallings will loan one or two PMDX-112 boards for illustrating configuration. There will be room for more machines, and more knowledgeable people (in both senses). It seems like distributing actual Live CDs would be a Good Thing--any idea how many we could give away? Would burn-on-demand meet the demand? Would any purpose be served making fancy CDs with printing? Seems like folks would be fine with a CD with no printing (just envelope printed or stamped). NAMES is April 18-19, Toledo, OH. --Dale Would anyone have an objection to there being a table at NAMES to demo/publicize EMC? (Not necessarily an official EMC thing, but just folks who are interested in sharing.) There are at least two vender tables left as of this morning. --Dale (Yes, I'm volunteering to help coordinate such a thing, if there are no objections.) Dale Grover wrote: Will there be any official EMC2 presence at NAMES this year, such as a table? Steve Stallings of PMDX said he'd be there, and I'm also planning on going. Tha's not very official, but may be as good as it is going to get. Jon -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19
Booth 15 at NAMES will be ours for demonstrating/promoting/distributing EMC. This is in the back, with Jon Elson and Steve Stallings in nearby booths to the sides. For better or worse, the person I spoke to at NAMES felt vender status was appropriate (due to distribution of software, even if given out free); it sounds like something to work on changing for next year (Ron Ginger's connections would be valuable). For this year, consider it my donation to one of the coolest examples of open source out there (as a recent post put it). Please let me know if you would like to take a shift or two in the booth; create a handout, banner, or sign; demo a system with EMC; or have other thoughts about how to promote EMC. Of course, many other exhibitors and venders will be running EMC systems elsewhere. This is a chance to place the emphasis on EMC itself. Right now there will be at least an Emco F1 mill, and hopefully at least one other PC running Axis for off-line demos. Steve Stallings will loan one or two PMDX-112 boards for illustrating configuration. There will be room for more machines, and more knowledgeable people (in both senses). It seems like distributing actual Live CDs would be a Good Thing--any idea how many we could give away? Would burn-on-demand meet the demand? Would any purpose be served making fancy CDs with printing? Seems like folks would be fine with a CD with no printing (just envelope printed or stamped). NAMES is April 18-19, Toledo, OH. --Dale I am happy to see EMC will be represented, but it seems very unfair you should pay as an exhibitor. I have exhibited my CNC stuff, and given a seminar there for many years. I was asked by one of the committee guys to do everything I could to encourage more CNC demos. I put notes here and on other lists to do that. It has always been clear that Vendors that sell products should pay for tables, this is appropriate and necessary for NAMES to operate. But guys that demo their hobby stuff are exhibitors. They do have to pay the $10 to get in as does everyone, but they are not vendors. I have written to my contact and suggested this was not the way to build CNC demo interest. I will see what the response is. NAMES is run by a committee, and that has all the usual implications of a committee. Im sure many recall a few years ago when the committee was most uncooperative to our CNC demos. I have been assured that they all now realize that was a big mistake and they really want to encourage more CNC demos. In the end, NAMES is a great show, I would never miss it. I enjoy showing off my work and seeing what everyone else is doing. Ill be there, with a new router Im building (if I get it done :-) and hope to see lots of other CNC stuff. And we can debate the merits of our favorite software all weekend! ron ginger -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19
Dale -
There is one downside to having a stack of CDs ready to go, and that is
the grab anything free mentality. I've never been to a NAMES show, but at
other professional or hobby exhibitions, people will line up for anything of
perceived value. (Screwdrivers, for example.) =WE= all know that there's
intrinsic value on that CD, regardless of whether the label is fancy,
simple, or merely scrawled with a Sharpie. :)
If you want some help with duplicating, please contact me off list. I have a
scary-fast CD duplicator. Marty [dot] Swartz at gmail {dot} com ..
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Dale Grover dgro...@redcedar.com wrote:
It seems like distributing actual Live CDs would be a Good Thing--any
idea how many we could give away? Would burn-on-demand meet the
demand? Would any purpose be served making fancy CDs with printing?
Seems like folks would be fine with a CD with no printing (just
envelope printed or stamped).
NAMES is April 18-19, Toledo, OH.
--Dale
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Re: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19
Good point. It sounds like the CDs should be behind the counter,
handed out to folks who seem genuinely engaged.
--Dale
Dale -
There is one downside to having a stack of CDs ready to go, and that is
the grab anything free mentality. I've never been to a NAMES show, but at
other professional or hobby exhibitions, people will line up for anything of
perceived value. (Screwdrivers, for example.) =WE= all know that there's
intrinsic value on that CD, regardless of whether the label is fancy,
simple, or merely scrawled with a Sharpie. :)
If you want some help with duplicating, please contact me off list. I have a
scary-fast CD duplicator. Marty [dot] Swartz at gmail {dot} com ..
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Dale Grover dgro...@redcedar.com wrote:
It seems like distributing actual Live CDs would be a Good Thing--any
idea how many we could give away? Would burn-on-demand meet the
demand? Would any purpose be served making fancy CDs with printing?
Seems like folks would be fine with a CD with no printing (just
envelope printed or stamped).
NAMES is April 18-19, Toledo, OH.
--Dale
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Re: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19
I'm in the Toledo metro area and can donate a spindle (50?) of burnt .iso's - any suggestions on version (of Ubuntu) ? I might (depends on if I can secure the labels artwork before the boss goes out of town next week for business) be able to also run off a batch of stick-on labels if someone can point me to the fancy artwork that someone had done that I know I've seen. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Dale Grover [mailto:dgro...@redcedar.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:18 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19 Booth 15 at NAMES will be ours for demonstrating/promoting/distributing EMC. This is in the back, with Jon Elson and Steve Stallings in nearby booths to the sides. For better or worse, the person I spoke to at NAMES felt vender status was appropriate (due to distribution of software, even if given out free); it sounds like something to work on changing for next year (Ron Ginger's connections would be valuable). For this year, consider it my donation to one of the coolest examples of open source out there (as a recent post put it). Please let me know if you would like to take a shift or two in the booth; create a handout, banner, or sign; demo a system with EMC; or have other thoughts about how to promote EMC. Of course, many other exhibitors and venders will be running EMC systems elsewhere. This is a chance to place the emphasis on EMC itself. Right now there will be at least an Emco F1 mill, and hopefully at least one other PC running Axis for off-line demos. Steve Stallings will loan one or two PMDX-112 boards for illustrating configuration. There will be room for more machines, and more knowledgeable people (in both senses). It seems like distributing actual Live CDs would be a Good Thing--any idea how many we could give away? Would burn-on-demand meet the demand? Would any purpose be served making fancy CDs with printing? Seems like folks would be fine with a CD with no printing (just envelope printed or stamped). NAMES is April 18-19, Toledo, OH. --Dale Would anyone have an objection to there being a table at NAMES to demo/publicize EMC? (Not necessarily an official EMC thing, but just folks who are interested in sharing.) There are at least two vender tables left as of this morning. --Dale (Yes, I'm volunteering to help coordinate such a thing, if there are no objections.) Dale Grover wrote: Will there be any official EMC2 presence at NAMES this year, such as a table? Steve Stallings of PMDX said he'd be there, and I'm also planning on going. Tha's not very official, but may be as good as it is going to get. Jon -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- --- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19
At 6:16 PM -0400 3/12/09, Ron Ginger wrote: Booth 15 at NAMES will be ours for demonstrating/promoting/distributing EMC. This is in the back, with Jon Elson and Steve Stallings in nearby booths to the sides. For better or worse, the person I spoke to at NAMES felt vender status was appropriate (due to distribution of software, even if given out free); it sounds like something to work on changing for next year (Ron Ginger's connections would be valuable). For this year, consider it my donation to one of the coolest examples of open source out there (as a recent post put it). Please let me know if you would like to take a shift or two in the booth; create a handout, banner, or sign; demo a system with EMC; or have other thoughts about how to promote EMC. Of course, many other exhibitors and venders will be running EMC systems elsewhere. This is a chance to place the emphasis on EMC itself. Right now there will be at least an Emco F1 mill, and hopefully at least one other PC running Axis for off-line demos. Steve Stallings will loan one or two PMDX-112 boards for illustrating configuration. There will be room for more machines, and more knowledgeable people (in both senses). It seems like distributing actual Live CDs would be a Good Thing--any idea how many we could give away? Would burn-on-demand meet the demand? Would any purpose be served making fancy CDs with printing? Seems like folks would be fine with a CD with no printing (just envelope printed or stamped). NAMES is April 18-19, Toledo, OH. --Dale I am happy to see EMC will be represented, but it seems very unfair you should pay as an exhibitor. I have exhibited my CNC stuff, and given a seminar there for many years. I was asked by one of the committee guys to do everything I could to encourage more CNC demos. I put notes here and on other lists to do that. It has always been clear that Vendors that sell products should pay for tables, this is appropriate and necessary for NAMES to operate. But guys that demo their hobby stuff are exhibitors. They do have to pay the $10 to get in as does everyone, but they are not vendors. I have written to my contact and suggested this was not the way to build CNC demo interest. I will see what the response is. NAMES is run by a committee, and that has all the usual implications of a committee. Im sure many recall a few years ago when the committee was most uncooperative to our CNC demos. I have been assured that they all now realize that was a big mistake and they really want to encourage more CNC demos. In the end, NAMES is a great show, I would never miss it. I enjoy showing off my work and seeing what everyone else is doing. Ill be there, with a new router Im building (if I get it done :-) and hope to see lots of other CNC stuff. And we can debate the merits of our favorite software all weekend! ron ginger I have really enjoyed the CNC talks and demos that Ron and others have given at NAMES. They add tremendously to the show. (I always take notes at Ron's talks.) And anything NAMES can do to increase the CNC content would make me even happier. Please bear in mind that when booking this booth, I didn't press the issue about vender/exhibitor--at this point it matters more to me that EMC has a nice space and location, both true of this booth, I believe. I'm not offended, and could see the point of view that EMC does seem like a product, even if nothing is being sold. And I do see the booth as more than a demo--I think it really does want to be venderish in appearance and purpose. (One of many bad ideas I've had already--a sign with SHOW SPECIAL--70% OFF!! for the booth.) But I do think that, if in the future there is sufficient interest to have another EMC-specific booth/table/area, it is worth going to the NAMES committee much earlier in the year and exploring other arrangements, because EMC is a special kind of product (plus community). This kind of exhibit should (I hope!) add to the show, isn't making anyone any money, and builds the kind of community that NAMES benefits from. Definitely worth giving space to, gratis. Let's see what we can actually make happen this year. Looking forward to the show! --Dale -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19
Thanks for the wonderful offer! This is a good question for the EMC developers--will there be a new version of the Live CD before the show? Greg--can I coordinate this with you off-list? --Dale At 9:07 PM -0400 3/12/09, Greg Michalski wrote: I'm in the Toledo metro area and can donate a spindle (50?) of burnt .iso's - any suggestions on version (of Ubuntu) ? I might (depends on if I can secure the labels artwork before the boss goes out of town next week for business) be able to also run off a batch of stick-on labels if someone can point me to the fancy artwork that someone had done that I know I've seen. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Dale Grover [mailto:dgro...@redcedar.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:18 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19 Booth 15 at NAMES will be ours for demonstrating/promoting/distributing EMC. This is in the back, with Jon Elson and Steve Stallings in nearby booths to the sides. For better or worse, the person I spoke to at NAMES felt vender status was appropriate (due to distribution of software, even if given out free); it sounds like something to work on changing for next year (Ron Ginger's connections would be valuable). For this year, consider it my donation to one of the coolest examples of open source out there (as a recent post put it). Please let me know if you would like to take a shift or two in the booth; create a handout, banner, or sign; demo a system with EMC; or have other thoughts about how to promote EMC. Of course, many other exhibitors and venders will be running EMC systems elsewhere. This is a chance to place the emphasis on EMC itself. Right now there will be at least an Emco F1 mill, and hopefully at least one other PC running Axis for off-line demos. Steve Stallings will loan one or two PMDX-112 boards for illustrating configuration. There will be room for more machines, and more knowledgeable people (in both senses). It seems like distributing actual Live CDs would be a Good Thing--any idea how many we could give away? Would burn-on-demand meet the demand? Would any purpose be served making fancy CDs with printing? Seems like folks would be fine with a CD with no printing (just envelope printed or stamped). NAMES is April 18-19, Toledo, OH. --Dale Would anyone have an objection to there being a table at NAMES to demo/publicize EMC? (Not necessarily an official EMC thing, but just folks who are interested in sharing.) There are at least two vender tables left as of this morning. --Dale (Yes, I'm volunteering to help coordinate such a thing, if there are no objections.) Dale Grover wrote: Will there be any official EMC2 presence at NAMES this year, such as a table? Steve Stallings of PMDX said he'd be there, and I'm also planning on going. Tha's not very official, but may be as good as it is going to get. Jon -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- --- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your
Re: [Emc-users] need sample contouring program
BRIAN GLACKIN wrote: Why not start with a photo of yourself and use the Image-to-Gcode feature. That should generate a bas releif of your choice I would suspect. Hmm, yes, that is certainly something to try. Thanks, Jon -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] need sample contouring program
I remember seeing somewhere on the web that the best way to create a true bas relief from a grayscale to g-code program is to paint the object in question white and then submerge the object into water that is slightly dyed. You then photograph the item from above. With a little tweaking in your favorite photo program, the resulting image will then give you a better correspondence of height to greyscale. I have not yet tried this but I am anxious to give it a go. - Original Message - From: BRIAN GLACKIN glackin.br...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] need sample contouring program Why not start with a photo of yourself and use the Image-to-Gcode feature. That should generate a bas releif of your choice I would suspect. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19
Your are allowed to charge a minimal cost of copying for open source software. Like a dollar or so.. Bring enough CD's to pay for the booth. Just don't make a career out of it...:) -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC at NAMES, Apr 18-19
Greg Michalski wrote: I'm in the Toledo metro area and can donate a spindle (50?) of burnt .iso's - any suggestions on version (of Ubuntu) ? I might (depends on if I can secure the labels artwork before the boss goes out of town next week for business) be able to also run off a batch of stick-on labels if someone can point me to the fancy artwork that someone had done that I know I've seen. Go for the 8.04 Ubuntu, it doesn't have the very very latest EMC on it, but it is pretty current. Jon -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
