Re: [Emc-users] Automating emc2
I would advise against full power down of steppers because you cannot then guarantee where you start from unless you re home, on release of power they will move to a comfortable magnetic position, they are not going to move back to the exact same position on reapplication of power, micro stepping will be worse Dave Caroline -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Need for speed
Hi I have recently built a 1500mm x 1500mm gantry style router. I am using EMC to run three FL86STH156-4208 11.96 Nm stepper motors, with 16mm x 4mm pitch trapezoidal screws. The gantry weighs some thing like 70kg. It works pretty well except the fastest movement I can achieve for x and y is around 15 mm per second before the steppers start complaining. I know the spigots on the end of the screws were not turned very concentrically, (I used a crappy lath)...could this be the reason for the lack of speed? Thanks for any response Aaron = Full Color Brochure Printing High Quality, Low Price and Fast Turnaround. Ask for free samples. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=65771a5eb85700bb37ac7698c67afc83 -- Powered by Outblaze -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Need for speed
max speed will also depend on drives you use and voltage you supply to them... Regards, Alex. aaron moore wrote: Hi I have recently built a 1500mm x 1500mm gantry style router. I am using EMC to run three FL86STH156-4208 11.96 Nm stepper motors, with 16mm x 4mm pitch trapezoidal screws. The gantry weighs some thing like 70kg. It works pretty well except the fastest movement I can achieve for x and y is around 15 mm per second before the steppers start complaining. I know the spigots on the end of the screws were not turned very concentrically, (I used a crappy lath)...could this be the reason for the lack of speed? Thanks for any response Aaron = Full Color Brochure Printing High Quality, Low Price and Fast Turnaround. Ask for free samples. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=65771a5eb85700bb37ac7698c67afc83 -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Need for speed
Alex Thanks for propt reply 3 x MSD542 50v DC4.2A, RoHS Stepper drives 2 x PS407 Power supply 40 volt 7amps power supply Steppers are wired in parrallel Aaron - Original Message - From: Alexey Starikovskiy aysta...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Need for speed Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:30:48 +0300 max speed will also depend on drives you use and voltage you supply to them... Regards, Alex. aaron moore wrote: Hi I have recently built a 1500mm x 1500mm gantry style router. I am using EMC to run three FL86STH156-4208 11.96 Nm stepper motors, with 16mm x 4mm pitch trapezoidal screws. The gantry weighs some thing like 70kg. It works pretty well except the fastest movement I can achieve for x and y is around 15 mm per second before the steppers start complaining. I know the spigots on the end of the screws were not turned very concentrically, (I used a crappy lath)...could this be the reason for the lack of speed? Thanks for any response Aaron = Full Color Brochure Printing High Quality, Low Price and Fast Turnaround. Ask for free samples. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=65771a5eb85700bb37ac7698c67afc83 -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users = -- Powered by Outblaze -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES and Flash Drive devices
Copying to user-provided flash drives instead of handing out CDs is a great idea, especially because it makes the user participate actively rather than just grab reflexively. Although that's true, I think trying to do anything that smacks of system administration while on the show floor is doomed to humiliating failure. Most of the time, flash drives Just Work under Linux, but there are a wide variety of flash drives and some require specific care feeding. All of us have the personality flaw that requires us to solve problems and there's nothing more compelling than Showing Off Our Sysadmin Chops. The inevitable result is being elbow-deep in the guts of the OS, desperately trying to write the victim's USB drive, while causing untold collateral damage. Worst case: neither his USB drive nor your system are ever quite the same afterward -and- you blew half an hour getting there. Better to keep a stack of CDs under the table and hand one out to each interested prospect. While the CD might not be readable in his drive, you can fix that up after the fact. I would not, under any circumstances, use a Windows box for USB-drive duplication, as you'd almost certainly propagate the malware brought to you by an unsuspecting victim. Case in point: http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Oct08/bots.ws.html Trade-show Exhibitor Rule Number 1: Keep It Simple, Stupid! Works for me, anyway... -- Ed -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Need for speed
you dont state steppers actual current but the power supply of 7A sounds on the low side for 3 stepper motors at the same time for any reasonable speed Dave Caroline -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Need for speed
I don't understand this stuff, but I am using 2 power supply units...does that make it any better? Cheers Aaron - Original Message - From: Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Need for speed Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:04:01 + you dont state steppers actual current but the power supply of 7A sounds on the low side for 3 stepper motors at the same time for any reasonable speed Dave Caroline -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users = Make 12% Per Mo. in ETFs Proven system. Trade only 5 min per day. Easier than forex or options. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=bb309dfc6b5ea9d0de398d4a74a1057d -- Powered by Outblaze -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Need for speed
On Monday 16 March 2009 13:12:23 aaron moore wrote: I don't understand this stuff, but I am using 2 power supply units...does that make it any better? Well, this depends on how your steppers are rated. If you have 3A steppers, you should have a PSU of at _least_ 10A (3 * 3A + 1A). You should not run the PSU at its very limit, because it could cause current drops, if the current limiter hits while moving all three steppers. That in turn can cause lost steps. -- Greetings, Michael. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Need for speed
On Mar 16, 2009, at 6:08 AM, Michael Buesch wrote: On Monday 16 March 2009 13:12:23 aaron moore wrote: I don't understand this stuff, but I am using 2 power supply units...does that make it any better? Well, this depends on how your steppers are rated. If you have 3A steppers, you should have a PSU of at _least_ 10A (3 * 3A + 1A). You should not run the PSU at its very limit, because it could cause current drops, if the current limiter hits while moving all three steppers. That in turn can cause lost steps. -- Greetings, Michael. Well, at least the above premise is testable. See if you can wring more speed out of the system by just running one axis at a time. Also, 40 volts for the steppers doesn't sound very high. Come on you stepper experts help me out here. I run servos so just lurk on the stepper side of things. Dave -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Automating emc2
Dave Caroline wrote: I would advise against full power down of steppers because you cannot then guarantee where you start from unless you re home, on release of power they will move to a comfortable magnetic position, they are not going to move back to the exact same position on reapplication of power, micro stepping will be worse I couldn't agree more with you, Dave. This is the situation I am in right now. I have to re-home everytime I open the enclosure or push the e-stop. This is why I wanted to automate the homing sequence upon starting a program. What do you propose to overcome what you describe? Sincerely, Patrice Portland, OR -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Need for speed
aaron moore wrote: Hi I have recently built a 1500mm x 1500mm gantry style router. I am using EMC to run three FL86STH156-4208 11.96 Nm stepper motors, with 16mm x 4mm pitch trapezoidal screws. The gantry weighs some thing like 70kg. It works pretty well except the fastest movement I can achieve for x and y is around 15 mm per second before the steppers start complaining. I know the spigots on the end of the screws were not turned very concentrically, (I used a crappy lath)...could this be the reason for the lack of speed? Does it make grinding noises BEFORE the steppers lose sync? Let's see, 4 mm pitch and 15 mm/second, assuming direct drive of the screws. That would be 15/4 = 3.75 revs/sec or 225 RPM. Ahhh, that is right in the range of midband resonance. What motor drives are you using? If any flavor of full step drive, that is almost certainly your problem. You might want to try a good microstepping drive. Otherwise, you may need a hardware step generator, or possibly a faster computer to make smoother trains of pulses. Jon -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Automating emc2
I am confused. If home switches are installed on a machine, can't the home all sequence be initiated by an add in or minor program adjustment? I recognize thats not the current way EMC is set up, but I would think that could be done as an optional switch in the software. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES and Flash Drive devices
Steve Stallings wrote: I agree. One dollar will not deter anyone who is seriously interested. Since you have paid for a vendor booth you can sell if you wish. Ohio state sales tax is another issue however. If you are judged to be commercial it can be a mess. PMDX does not sell in Ohio for that reason. Perhaps a tip jar would work. Hell NO! That's even WORSE! Tips are earnings, which requires a whole new level of tax paperwork! And, once you get on the payroll deduction bandwagon, you have to close the business to get off. If you think sales tax paperwork is onerous, you have NO IDEA what the payroll stuff looks like. Jon -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Need for speed
I have 200oz-in stepper running an ~35lb gantry using a 24V 12A PS. Each axis is receiving upto 3A using a hooby board. I am able to achieve cut speeds over 2 ips. I know I can get more if I tuned my gantry better, but heck - its only plywood. Doing some conversions, it sound like the steppers you have are ~1700 oz-in units. From my reading, the higher the torque the less top end speed unless you have timing belts to take advantage of the steppers. I also thought a machine requiring this size stepper was better served by servos? Some things to check: Gantry racking Pretensioning your lead screws Proper alignment of your leadscrews and bearing mounts Proper alignment of your motor / leadscrew Proper tightening of all axis rails This weekend after 10 minutes of messing with leadscrew bearing mounts and the lovejoy couplings, I went from a lousy 0.5 ips to over 2 ips. My steppers even sound happier now. Hope that helps some. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] No whine from the steppers
Gentlemen, although I understand much more now about EMC than in January, I still have problems with my stepper motors. They do pretty much what they ought to now ( I can scribe the AXIS logo with my PCB drill), but their sound still isn't what we all are used to from photo copiers and other stepping gear. My motor gives about a constant tone, which is not very distinct, however. The turning isn't easy going, I seem to feel a reluctance to follow each step impulse. I reduced the problem to the X-axis only to make it simpler to follow. At any rate, there is no singing or whining of the motor, I can't hear the familiar accelerating and decelerating sound, it makes no difference in sound when I change the stepping frequency. I can vary all the params in stepconf and test their axis within the program, it makes no difference. Understand me right, the motor sure varies speed and acceleration visibly, so the configuration shows effect all right, but it's not an audible change. And I don't think I can rely on the true count of steps, surely not when it comes to work under load. This phenomenon is what I called rattling in a former thread (end of Jan.). I tried, as I was adviced then, to eliminate doublestep, I changed polarity of puls an direction, varied pulse and pause times, chose extreme pulse and pause rates manually editing the hal and ini files, it all makes no change in this behaviour. The driver card can't be the reason because with my old DOS program things work still ok. What can be wrong with my setup? Thanks in advance Peter Blodow -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Need for speed
Hi Jon Can you tell me what midband resonance is. Could it have anything to do with leadscrews that vibrate/ whip around a bit Thanks Aaron - Original Message - From: Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Need for speed Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:37:14 -0500 aaron moore wrote: Hi I have recently built a 1500mm x 1500mm gantry style router. I am using EMC to run three FL86STH156-4208 11.96 Nm stepper motors, with 16mm x 4mm pitch trapezoidal screws. The gantry weighs some thing like 70kg. It works pretty well except the fastest movement I can achieve for x and y is around 15 mm per second before the steppers start complaining. I know the spigots on the end of the screws were not turned very concentrically, (I used a crappy lath)...could this be the reason for the lack of speed? Does it make grinding noises BEFORE the steppers lose sync? Let's see, 4 mm pitch and 15 mm/second, assuming direct drive of the screws. That would be 15/4 = 3.75 revs/sec or 225 RPM. Ahhh, that is right in the range of midband resonance. What motor drives are you using? If any flavor of full step drive, that is almost certainly your problem. You might want to try a good microstepping drive. Otherwise, you may need a hardware step generator, or possibly a faster computer to make smoother trains of pulses. Jon -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users = Over 180,000 Autographs and Manuscripts 100% Authentic. UACC Dealer. Items in all fields of interest. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=0a1c5b1743663ed004b7be5979aae64e -- Powered by Outblaze -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] EMC at NAMES 2009--a wiki page
I started a page on the EMC wiki to collect the plans and ideas for promoting EMC2 at NAMES: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?EMC2AtNAMES (Afterwards perhaps the information would be useful for future expos including Cabin Fever?) Not to discourage continued ideas on the emc-users list, but to provide a collection point. Space on the page to sign up for a shift at the booth. And on the issue of having good information for people, I'm looking at how difficult an internet connection will be--then we could have the IRC channel open for questions that go beyond what a booth volunteer might know. (If any EMC experts are at the show, perhaps they could leave their cell #'s at the booth if they'd be willing to answer questions as well.) --Dale -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES and Flash Drive devices
On 16 Mar 2009 at 7:32, Ed Nisley wrote: Although that's true, I think trying to do anything that smacks of system administration while on the show floor is doomed to humiliating failure. Most of the time, flash drives Just Work under Linux, but there are a wide variety of flash drives and some require specific care feeding. All of us have the personality flaw that requires us to solve problems and there's nothing more compelling than Showing Off Our Sysadmin Chops. Okay. I retract my flash drive idea. Wes -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fest
On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 20:34 -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: I'm pretty sure i'll make it to the Fest, at least the weekend days. If Sebastian goes, I'll go. I could use some help though; I need to convince Steve Stallings to go because then we can split the driving hotel (it's 1200+ miles...)! So if all of you could badger him mercilessly from now on, that would be great! Thanks, Matt -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fest
I too am curious where it is on the map, makes all the difference of whether I could come or not. Jim On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Matt Shaver m...@mattshaver.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 20:34 -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: I'm pretty sure i'll make it to the Fest, at least the weekend days. If Sebastian goes, I'll go. I could use some help though; I need to convince Steve Stallings to go because then we can split the driving hotel (it's 1200+ miles...)! So if all of you could badger him mercilessly from now on, that would be great! Thanks, Matt -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Automating emc2
I suppose my initial idea of using emcrsh as part of a shell script that starts emc is coming out as the preferred solution for homing the machine automatically upon startup. This is not too difficult to do. I hear the suggestion that turning off the stepper power is a mistake due to positioning errors. Since my machine moves a ball bearing through sand, micro accuracy isn't that important (it doesn't mean the machine can't do it!) The table will sit for long periods of time doing nothing and then people will start interacting with it. I have to weigh constant current to the steppers vs. turning off the power and occasionally re-homing. The need for the request will be figured out over time. I can also use a script that occasionally polls emc using emcrsh to determine when a run has finished and then invoke some action. Thanks again for everything - Mike -Original Message- From: BRIAN GLACKIN [mailto:glackin.br...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:49 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Automating emc2 I am confused. If home switches are installed on a machine, can't the home all sequence be initiated by an add in or minor program adjustment? I recognize thats not the current way EMC is set up, but I would think that could be done as an optional switch in the software. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] VB: BIG CNC machine for making small airplane?
Hello all! I am new to the list but have been checking out the project for quite a while. I am thinking about building a ultralight aircraft by 1) designing a 3D object 2) Making real by CNC in foam 3) building skin in epoxy/fiberglass. Much like a surfboard! Stringers and such would of course be needd. They could be pre-added to the core. The thing is, a BIG machine CNC would be needed. Does anyone have experience building such a big CNC machine? It would need to work object several meters large. Preferable up to 4-5 meters. I am thinking some serious welding is needed for a solid frame but how to make suitable sliding rails that are long? And are there tooth belts that long? Perhaps a cograil? How to maintain minimum play? I am sure all these problems are solved since i have seen big sailboats beeing protyped on TV, but how to make a DIY version? Ideas anyone? Peter -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Automating emc2
If your driver chip has an idle current circuit, you can let EMC manage power to the steppers. I currently use this function and this past weekend, the machine was up for 8 hours with no activity. Touched the steppers and they were stone cold. Hit the run button and they were humming along. -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] VB: BIG CNC machine for making small airplane?
Peter Braroe wrote: Hello all! I am new to the list but have been checking out the project for quite a while. I am thinking about building a ultralight aircraft by 1) designing a 3D object 2) Making real by CNC in foam 3) building skin in epoxy/fiberglass. Much like a surfboard! Stringers and such would of course be needd. They could be pre-added to the core. The thing is, a BIG machine CNC would be needed. Does anyone have experience building such a big CNC machine? It would need to work object several meters large. Preferable up to 4-5 meters. I am thinking some serious welding is needed for a solid frame but how to make suitable sliding rails that are long? And are there tooth belts that long? Perhaps a cograil? How to maintain minimum play? I am sure all these problems are solved since i have seen big sailboats beeing protyped on TV, but how to make a DIY version? Ideas anyone? Peter Cutting foam makes things easier since the machine doesn't have to be extremely rigid. But it will still be a very expensive project. I suspect cost is somewhat proportional to the volume of the work envelope. So a machine that can work 5 meter parts isn't 5 times as expensive as one that works 1 meter parts, but somewhere between 25 and 125 times as expensive. There are all kinds of creative possibilities for reducing the size, but first you need to define your requirements in some more detail. How much accuracy are you looking for? Achieving 0.01mm over a 5m workspace would be extremely expensive. Even 0.1mm would be hard to do cheaply. If your tolerances are closer to 1mm, things get simpler. How many axes do you need? A three axis machine is usually simpler and less expensive than four or five axes, but smooth curvy airplane shapes might be hard to do with three axes. How big does the workspace really need to be? Does it need to be a 4 x 4 x 4 meter cube, or can you get away with one or two shorter dimensions? For example, wings are long, but only moderately wide and not very tall at all. Where will you be building this machine? A machine that can cut objects that are 4 meters tall might require an 8 meter ceiling - it won't fit in your garage. If you have a suitable space (such as a small hanger), an interesting possibility would be a cable hexapod. EMC2 is capable of running such a machine, although configuring and homing it is non-trivial. A cable hexapod can be very inexpensive per cubic meter of workspace compared to anything else. The tradeoff is limited accuracy and limited rigidity. Alex has made a (tabletop sized) version with three cables: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Alex_Joni's_Toy Alex's tripod uses three cables to define a point in space - for machining, you need to control both the location of the tool-tip (a point) and the orientation of the spindle. That requires six cables. But it can be done - the original NIST version of EMC did it in the late 90's. No matter what approach you use, such a machine is a non-trivial engineering exercise. It sounds like you aren't afraid of big projects (an airplane is a big project). Just make sure you know what you are getting into. Regards, John Kasunich -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Backlash and Lost Steps/Frozen Motor
Hello all, new to group. I am in the very final phases of completing my cnc setup. The last thing I did was set a backlash setting in my ini file. After doing this and running a test, I noticed that the x-axis motor started freezing up and loosing steps. Everything was working perfectly before I used a backlash number. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this here. I am thinking that the backlash repositioning does not adhere to whatever acceleration values you have set on your system and therefore locks up. Is there a way to change the acceleration value of the backlash? Will lowering the acceleration of the system help this? Any input is appreciated! -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Backlash and Lost Steps/Frozen Motor
don wilson wrote: Hello all, new to group. I am in the very final phases of completing my cnc setup. The last thing I did was set a backlash setting in my ini file. After doing this and running a test, I noticed that the x-axis motor started freezing up and loosing steps. Everything was working perfectly before I used a backlash number. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this here. I am thinking that the backlash repositioning does not adhere to whatever acceleration values you have set on your system and therefore locks up. Is there a way to change the acceleration value of the backlash? Will lowering the acceleration of the system help this? Any input is appreciated! This is a known problem, one that unfortunately doesn't have a simple fix that we could apply to the code. The backlash compensation move is limited to 50% of the accel limit in the ini file. The compensation move is added to whatever movement is required to machine the part. If the part program is using 100% of the accel limit, then the sum of the two can total 150%. The only workaround is to reduce the ini file acceleration limit to 66% of what you have determined that your motors can handle. That way, you have a maximum of 66% main program accel + 33% backlash accel = 99% which your motors can handle. Regards, John Kasunich -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
Update from the photo front -
Ok, I have now sorted out the multitude of issues which have plagued me from
the start of this endeavor. I knew I had purchased a large mailbox amount
on my hosting package - only problem was when I set it up _I_ didn't allot
it a sufficient size, so instead of a 100MB mailbox I had a 10mb mailbox and
75MB unallocated. To top it all off I had set my client to leave copies on
the server for 5 days so once it filled Saturday into Sunday, it was tits
up.
SO - If you have tried to contact me and gotten a bounce back message or no
response whatsoever, and are still willing to provide images, go ahead and
contact me again. Everyone who has gotten a hold of me has gotten the FTP
instructions and successfully sent images, except for the most recent to be
mailed the instructions (one person). But the box was full from sometime
late Sunday (east coast time).
I apologize for the unprofessionalism this started off with. I made too
many assumptions, thereby making an @$$ out of myself when all I wanted to
do was help and use a talent and equipment at my disposal to promote EMC.
This sort of error would have been catastrophic had it been a full fledged
business (which one day I intend it to be).
So my apologies to everyone, especially those who put up with trying to get
files to me and being patient while I tried working out my bugs. I have a
decent amount of pictures, but would like at least another 5 machines to
showcase. Some of the machines received so far are very inspiring for me in
seeing the creativity not only in the work they are producing but in the
machines themselves.
So to those who haven't donated pics, or have tried and got fed up with the
hassle, I hope you will give it another shot. To those who have - thank
you. Dale is really investing a lot of his time in making the EMC presence
strong and I commend him. I wish my body could stand/sit in one place long
enough to take more shifts on the floor, this is the best way for me to
contribute, so again, one more shot and please accept my humble apologies,
this snafu was all on me.
Yours humbly in open source and open honesty,
Greg Michalski
www.distinctperspectives.com
-Original Message-
From: Greg Michalski [mailto:emc2usrl...@distinctperspectives.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:21 PM
To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
Everyone -
I have setup an FTP account on my website to accept large files (like I
requested) since it seems my mailbox won't accept larger messages (I
thought
I had paid for enhanced email but - evidently not).
I don't want to post the log-in information to the list since it is
publicly
archived, but contact me off list at Greg dot Michalski {at]
distinctperspectives (dot) com and I will forward the log in information
and
a basic walk through of how to use FTP if you haven't before (don't be
offended at the step by step nature if you are familiar, I wanted to have
a
copy/paste and have it applicable to all levels of experience).
So if you have tried to send me something and it bounced contact me at the
email for the instructions or check your mail because I've already
responded
to several people with the instructions for FTP.
Thanks for the early support, hopefully it continues and we have a
stunning
professional looking display that will make a statement that EMC is
robust,
and is here to stay. If (like me...) you haven't previously made any
contributions to opensource development, this is an easy way to get
started
by showing off what you've done with the software.
Thanks!
Greg
www.distinctperspectives.com
-Original Message-
From: Peter blodow [mailto:p.blo...@dreki.de]
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:54 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
Hello Greg,
I tried to send you some pictures right away, but your mail server was
apparently so busy that I was told my mail could be delayed for up to 2
days. Please check your mail account, maybe it's overfilled. Large
pictues
you wished make a lot of megabytes.
Peter Blodow
At 00:24 14.03.2009, you wrote:
To all EMC2 users and enthusiasts:
In coordinating with Dale Grover off list I offered to print up some
backdrops for the EMC presence at NAMES here in Toledo, since there's a
kind
member with a CD duplicator in our midst negating the need for my
previous
offer of assistance, and I still wanted to lend a hand. So now I reach
out
to the list for your help - I need PICTURES of your machines! Lots and
lots
of pictures!!! (well not too many.) I'm thinking machines of all
shapes
and
sizes, from custom builds to conversions, wood routers to behemoths,
anything that has EMC2 moving it around. The higher res the better,
I'm
aiming at 24x36 plots. So clean up your shops, take some good pics and
we
can showcase the
Re: [Emc-users] Need for speed
aaron moore wrote: Hi Jon Can you tell me what midband resonance is. Could it have anything to do with leadscrews that vibrate/ whip around a bit Stepper motors have poles, where the magnets and coils interact to form the full-step positions. With the magnets pulling on the toothed stator plates, there are those detents you can feel in the motor. (When the coils are energized, these detents get a LOT stronger.) So, the motor has fixed positions built into it by the magnetic circuits inside. These act like springs, when the rotor is deflected from the center of the detent it will return when you let up on the shaft. Now, the rotor also has mass, therefor angular momentum. Add momentum to a spring, and you have something that can bounce back and forth. When the step rate approaches this natural resonant frequency, you have a very unstable condition. If the motor is driven at that frequency for a while, without enough damping, the resonance builds until it is strong enough to jump over 4 full step positions. Then, the motor is capable of running backwards, stalling, or all sorts of erratic behavior. Gecko has a patented scheme to damp this resonance electronically, and all I can say is it really works! Due to that, I have a strong suspicion you are not using a Gecko drive, or any other with mid-band damping. Back in the old days, before microstepping, there were a variety of fluid dynamic dampers that were attached to stepper motor shafts to fight this. Many of them were basically a thick disc with an annular cavity with a big steel washer sealed inside, with a bunch of grease packing the cavity. Others had a steel washer attached to a thin disc with a rubber pad. All involved some kind of viscous damping scheme. If you are using a full- or even half-step drive, I think this definitely is your problem, and you may find it hard to fix with that type drive. Jon -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fest
Jim Coleman wrote: I too am curious where it is on the map, makes all the difference of whether I could come or not. Toledo, OH, in the Seagate convention center. Jon -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fest
Jon Elson wrote: Jim Coleman wrote: I too am curious where it is on the map, makes all the difference of whether I could come or not. Toledo, OH, in the Seagate convention center. Uh - that's NAMES, right? I think this thread is about the Fest at Stuart's. From Stuart's email (titled address and contact info): MPM Inc. 2100 S West St. Wichita, KS 67213 - Steve -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fest
Jon Elson wrote: Jim Coleman wrote: I too am curious where it is on the map, makes all the difference of whether I could come or not. Toledo, OH, in the Seagate convention center. Nope. There are two threads going on, about two COMPLETELY different events. The NAMES show is in late April, in Toledo, Ohio. It is a model engineering show, with some CNC demos. That is another thread. The Fest mentioned in this thread is a much smaller, EMC-only event that Stuart is offering to host at his shop in Wichita, Kansas, in late May. Regards, John Kasunich -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
Greg Michalski wrote: Update from the photo front - Ok, I have now sorted out the multitude of issues which have plagued me from the start of this endeavor. I knew I had purchased a large mailbox amount on my hosting package - only problem was when I set it up _I_ didn't allot it a sufficient size, so instead of a 100MB mailbox I had a 10mb mailbox and 75MB unallocated. To top it all off I had set my client to leave copies on the server for 5 days so once it filled Saturday into Sunday, it was tits up. SO - If you have tried to contact me and gotten a bounce back message or no response whatsoever, and are still willing to provide images, go ahead and contact me again. Everyone who has gotten a hold of me has gotten the FTP instructions and successfully sent images, except for the most recent to be mailed the instructions (one person). But the box was full from sometime late Sunday (east coast time). I apologize for the unprofessionalism this started off with. I made too many assumptions, thereby making an @$$ out of myself when all I wanted to do was help and use a talent and equipment at my disposal to promote EMC. This sort of error would have been catastrophic had it been a full fledged business (which one day I intend it to be). So my apologies to everyone, especially those who put up with trying to get files to me and being patient while I tried working out my bugs. I have a decent amount of pictures, but would like at least another 5 machines to showcase. Some of the machines received so far are very inspiring for me in seeing the creativity not only in the work they are producing but in the machines themselves. I don't think you owe any apologies - these things happen. I for one am thrilled to see that you are doing this, regardless of any minor hitches. I have some pictures of my EMC2 powered Shoptask lathe/mill on my website at: http://jmkasunich.com/cgi-bin/blosxom/shoptask?flav=index Instead of me dumping a bunch of stuff on you, take a look and let me know if anything looks good. I have the 10 megapixel originals for most if not all of the images... BTW, I'm pretty sure I have the original (rather large) movie file for the variable-pitch, variable-diameter threading. Might be fun to be use that instead of a screensaver. (The YouTube version won't work at the show unless you have a fast internet connection, but the movie version just sits on your disk and runs anywhere.) Regards, John Kasunich -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] VB: BIG CNC machine for making small airplane?
BRIAN GLACKIN glackin.br...@... writes: Why cut the whole part at once? Model the part, create smaller pieces to cut. Assemble the smaller pieces. into original whole. finish by hand. Can't be too hard to finish. Allows for smaller work envelope and better tolerances perhaps? Absolutely! Brian is right. Mike Arnold, of the Crockett Rocket fame, has a series of videos on how you can do this without even needing a cnc machine by breaking the 3d shapes into slices that can be cut very accurately out of foam. All you need is a plotter to print out accurate templates. The rest is epoxy, fiberglass, diligence, elbow grease. A hot wire cutter can be hand operated, or you can use EMC to control a 4 axis hotwire machine, but there are other Windows based hotwire/software packages that have been in use for years. Here are the tapes: http://www.ar-5.com/tapes.html Web site: http://www.ar-5.com/ Peter, you say: Stringers and such would of course be needd. [sic] From that comment (Hey, we all start out somewhere... right?) I am going to assume that you don't have any experience building full-scale composite aircraft structures. Is this true? If so, you might want to look at shelling out some $$ for a proven design so you can avoid becoming your own test pilot. On the other hand, Martin Hollmann has an excellent book on test flying for homebuilders ;-) http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/bvpages/testflying.php Tom ps. The first item on my flight checklist: 1st have fun! -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
From: John Kasunich [mailto:jmkasun...@fastmail.fm] Greg Michalski wrote: Update from the photo front - Ok, I have now sorted out the multitude of issues which have plagued me from the start of this endeavor. I knew I had purchased a large mailbox amount on my hosting package - only problem was when I set it up _I_ didn't allot it a sufficient size, so instead of a 100MB mailbox I had a 10mb mailbox and 75MB unallocated. To top it all off I had set my client to leave copies on the server for 5 days so once it filled Saturday into Sunday, it was tits up. SO - If you have tried to contact me and gotten a bounce back message or no response whatsoever, and are still willing to provide images, go ahead and contact me again. Everyone who has gotten a hold of me has gotten the FTP instructions and successfully sent images, except for the most recent to be mailed the instructions (one person). But the box was full from sometime late Sunday (east coast time). I apologize for the unprofessionalism this started off with. I made too many assumptions, thereby making an @$$ out of myself when all I wanted to do was help and use a talent and equipment at my disposal to promote EMC. This sort of error would have been catastrophic had it been a full fledged business (which one day I intend it to be). So my apologies to everyone, especially those who put up with trying to get files to me and being patient while I tried working out my bugs. I have a decent amount of pictures, but would like at least another 5 machines to showcase. Some of the machines received so far are very inspiring for me in seeing the creativity not only in the work they are producing but in the machines themselves. I don't think you owe any apologies - these things happen. I for one am thrilled to see that you are doing this, regardless of any minor hitches. I have some pictures of my EMC2 powered Shoptask lathe/mill on my website at: http://jmkasunich.com/cgi-bin/blosxom/shoptask?flav=index Instead of me dumping a bunch of stuff on you, take a look and let me know if anything looks good. I have the 10 megapixel originals for most if not all of the images... BTW, I'm pretty sure I have the original (rather large) movie file for the variable-pitch, variable-diameter threading. Might be fun to be use that instead of a screensaver. (The YouTube version won't work at the show unless you have a fast internet connection, but the movie version just sits on your disk and runs anywhere.) Regards, John Kasunich John - Thanks for the encouragement. I'll get a look at your images tomorrow and follow up. It's time to get my beauty rest :P Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
John Kasunich wrote: BTW, I'm pretty sure I have the original (rather large) movie file for the variable-pitch, variable-diameter threading. Might be fun to be use that instead of a screensaver. (The YouTube version won't work at the show unless you have a fast internet connection, but the movie version just sits on your disk and runs anywhere.) You can use the DownloadHelper plugin to Firefox to save Youtube videos to your hard drive, to watch them later without a network connection. Of course, there are other reasons to prefer JMK's original movie over the Youtube one. -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fest
John Kasunich wrote: Nope. There are two threads going on, about two COMPLETELY different events. The NAMES show is in late April, in Toledo, Ohio. It is a model engineering show, with some CNC demos. That is another thread. The Fest mentioned in this thread is a much smaller, EMC-only event that Stuart is offering to host at his shop in Wichita, Kansas, in late May. AHHH! Brain fart! Sorry! I'm kind of focusing on NAMES as it comes up in only 4 weeks! Fortunately, I'm not trying to make much new to show there. But, several people are trying to put together a pretty impressive EMC booth at NAMES this year. Yes, of course, the EMC Fest is something else, and SOMEPLACE else, and will be a much more in DEPTH affair for EMC, and I wouldn't miss it for anything. Sorry for causing confusion, and awfully early in the evening for me to be so out of it! Jon -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
John Kasunich wrote: BTW, I'm pretty sure I have the original (rather large) movie file for the variable-pitch, variable-diameter threading. Might be fun to be use that instead of a screensaver. (The YouTube version won't work at the show unless you have a fast internet connection, but the movie version just sits on your disk and runs anywhere.) If somebody is going to have movies running, I think there is one of Chris' 5-axis machine that ought to be shown, too. I thought that was QUITE cool! Jon -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] NAMES Backdrop Photos
On Mar 16, 2009, at 8:34 PM, Jon Elson wrote: John Kasunich wrote: BTW, I'm pretty sure I have the original (rather large) movie file for the variable-pitch, variable-diameter threading. Might be fun to be use that instead of a screensaver. (The YouTube version won't work at the show unless you have a fast internet connection, but the movie version just sits on your disk and runs anywhere.) If somebody is going to have movies running, I think there is one of Chris' 5-axis machine that ought to be shown, too. I thought that was QUITE cool! Jon Is anyone thinking about support for the backdrop pictures. IIRC the old Names venue was pretty much an open room. Unless you get a booth with a wall you are going to need racks, dividers, etc to hang those beautiful pictures on. Dave -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
