Re: [Emc-users] (AXIS, stop) not working
>Hello. Nothing changes if I try to execute (AXIS, stop) or (AXIS, >hide[show]) try removing the space after the comma. (ref git-master, probably same for 2.3.5) interp_convert.cc: COMMENT("AXIS,hide"); interp_convert.cc: COMMENT("AXIS,show"); lib/python/rs274/glcanon.py if arg.startswith("AXIS,"): parts = arg.split(",") command = parts[1] if command == "stop": raise KeyboardInterrupt if command == "hide": self.suppress += 1 if command == "show": self.suppress -= 1 -- Dewey Garrett -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
You can do it with relays and a timer. Or you can get a 100.00 AutoationDirect.com plc to do it. DL05 Bob Bevins Project Manager Ingersoll Rand Security Technologies bob_bev...@irco.com 514 231-6241 -Original Message- From: Neil Baylis [mailto:neil.bay...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:57 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch > I'm sure that Pilz, Faulhaber, Schaffner and a bunch of other outfits > have a device that will do what you want, in some manner. I don't think > I have ever seen exactly a red mushroom switch that would mechanically > activate, but these companies and others have safety-rated relays (for > about $400) and safety-duty PLCs (about a grand and WAY up) for these > sorts of requirements. They are all designed with extensive > fault-tolerant, fail-safe electronic and mechanical components. Yeah, I've seen some of these devices. You wouldn't think e-stop could get so complicated. > The problem with making it mechanical > through the red button is that someone intentionally or accidentally > jamming the button could prevent the E-stop action from happening. I wasn't thinking that the computer would use this as a way to stop the machine. Rather, the computer would stop the machine however it already does, but in addition it would press the e-stop, forcing the operator to twist/lift the button before resuming, even if he never pressed the button. Neil -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users The information contained in this message is privileged and intended only for the recipients named. If the reader is not a representative of the intended recipient, any review, dissemination or copying of this message or the information it contains is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender, and delete the original message and attachments. -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
> I'm sure that Pilz, Faulhaber, Schaffner and a bunch of other outfits > have a device that will do what you want, in some manner. I don't think > I have ever seen exactly a red mushroom switch that would mechanically > activate, but these companies and others have safety-rated relays (for > about $400) and safety-duty PLCs (about a grand and WAY up) for these > sorts of requirements. They are all designed with extensive > fault-tolerant, fail-safe electronic and mechanical components. Yeah, I've seen some of these devices. You wouldn't think e-stop could get so complicated. > The problem with making it mechanical > through the red button is that someone intentionally or accidentally > jamming the button could prevent the E-stop action from happening. I wasn't thinking that the computer would use this as a way to stop the machine. Rather, the computer would stop the machine however it already does, but in addition it would press the e-stop, forcing the operator to twist/lift the button before resuming, even if he never pressed the button. Neil -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
Neil Baylis wrote: > I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the > big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be > turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can > also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer > detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just > as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, > obviously. > > Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? > I'm sure that Pilz, Faulhaber, Schaffner and a bunch of other outfits have a device that will do what you want, in some manner. I don't think I have ever seen exactly a red mushroom switch that would mechanically activate, but these companies and others have safety-rated relays (for about $400) and safety-duty PLCs (about a grand and WAY up) for these sorts of requirements. They are all designed with extensive fault-tolerant, fail-safe electronic and mechanical components. I include an all-electronic version of this in all my controller boards, and users can add external safety controls as they deem necessary. A latching relay is basically what you are looking for, it would then need a separate reset button. The problem with making it mechanical through the red button is that someone intentionally or accidentally jamming the button could prevent the E-stop action from happening. Jon -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
Thanks, Alex. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Alex Joni wrote: > Here's a nice difference between a normal relay estop setup and a safety > relay: > http://www.ia.omron.com/product/cautions/189/img/cn_2.gif > > Regards, > Alex > > > On 4/13/2010 1:47 AM, Alex Joni wrote: >> >> >> http://www.pilz.com/products/control_communication/safety_relay/index.en.jsp >> >> (first hit off google) >> >> Basicly they are a relay, with some aditional circuitry inside so that bad >> things can't happen. >> if you have a glitch in the safety circuit, the safety relay opens and >> stays that way until you reset it >> But there are various kinds, with various inputs/connection circuits. >> >> Regards, >> Alex >> >> >> On 4/13/2010 1:01 AM, Neil Baylis wrote: >>> >>> What's a safety relay? Is it a particular kind of relay? >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Alex Joni wrote: Just use a safety relay for this, no need to reinvent the wheel.. Regards, Alex On 4/12/2010 10:10 PM, Neil Baylis wrote: > > OK, thanks. I guess they don't exist. > > I guess what I'll do is to add a circuit that requires the e-stop > button to be pressed before a fault condition can be cleared. Then I > have no choice but to twist the e-stop before resuming. > > Thanks, > > Neil > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services > wrote: > >> Hi Neil, >> >> I believe Eric is correct. After 30 years in industry (the last 20 >> specifically with CNC) I have never seen what you are describing. As >> Eric >> mentioned, a relay that must be activated by a reset switch would do >> the >> job. Reset switches for this purpose I have seen and included in some >> of >> the retrofits that I have done. >> >> Have a good day, >> >> Jim >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Eric Keller" >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller >> (EMC)" >> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch >> >> >> My guess is that a switch with an actuator in it would be so expensive >> that nobody has ever bothered to market one. I think your best bet is >> to have a self-powering relay that can only be turned on by a >> momentary switch. >> Eric >> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Neil Baylis >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Jim, >>> >>> I understand how to set up such a failsafe circuit. But in addition, >>> I >>> want the actual e-stop switch to activate and latch, so that >>> regardless of whether the computer generates a fault condition, or I >>> do it myself, I still have to manually release the switch before >>> resuming operation. >>> >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services >>> wrote: >>> Hi Neil, Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes open (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit switch contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed stop functioning. Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I will send you an example. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: "Neil Baylis" To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch > I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with > the > big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be > turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that > can > also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer > detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, > just > as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital > out, > obviously. > > Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? > > Thanks, > > Neil Baylis No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2807 - Release Date: 04/12/10 21:32:00 -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Inte
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
Here's a nice difference between a normal relay estop setup and a safety relay: http://www.ia.omron.com/product/cautions/189/img/cn_2.gif Regards, Alex On 4/13/2010 1:47 AM, Alex Joni wrote: http://www.pilz.com/products/control_communication/safety_relay/index.en.jsp (first hit off google) Basicly they are a relay, with some aditional circuitry inside so that bad things can't happen. if you have a glitch in the safety circuit, the safety relay opens and stays that way until you reset it But there are various kinds, with various inputs/connection circuits. Regards, Alex On 4/13/2010 1:01 AM, Neil Baylis wrote: What's a safety relay? Is it a particular kind of relay? Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Alex Joni wrote: Just use a safety relay for this, no need to reinvent the wheel.. Regards, Alex On 4/12/2010 10:10 PM, Neil Baylis wrote: OK, thanks. I guess they don't exist. I guess what I'll do is to add a circuit that requires the e-stop button to be pressed before a fault condition can be cleared. Then I have no choice but to twist the e-stop before resuming. Thanks, Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Hi Neil, I believe Eric is correct. After 30 years in industry (the last 20 specifically with CNC) I have never seen what you are describing. As Eric mentioned, a relay that must be activated by a reset switch would do the job. Reset switches for this purpose I have seen and included in some of the retrofits that I have done. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: "Eric Keller" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch My guess is that a switch with an actuator in it would be so expensive that nobody has ever bothered to market one. I think your best bet is to have a self-powering relay that can only be turned on by a momentary switch. Eric On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Neil Baylis wrote: Thanks Jim, I understand how to set up such a failsafe circuit. But in addition, I want the actual e-stop switch to activate and latch, so that regardless of whether the computer generates a fault condition, or I do it myself, I still have to manually release the switch before resuming operation. Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Hi Neil, Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes open (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit switch contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed stop functioning. Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I will send you an example. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: "Neil Baylis" To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, obviously. Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? Thanks, Neil Baylis No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2807 - Release Date: 04/12/10 21:32:00 -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2807 - Release Date: 04/12/10 21:32:00 -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2807 - Release Date: 04/12/10 21:32:00 ---
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
http://www.pilz.com/products/control_communication/safety_relay/index.en.jsp (first hit off google) Basicly they are a relay, with some aditional circuitry inside so that bad things can't happen. if you have a glitch in the safety circuit, the safety relay opens and stays that way until you reset it But there are various kinds, with various inputs/connection circuits. Regards, Alex On 4/13/2010 1:01 AM, Neil Baylis wrote: What's a safety relay? Is it a particular kind of relay? Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Alex Joni wrote: Just use a safety relay for this, no need to reinvent the wheel.. Regards, Alex On 4/12/2010 10:10 PM, Neil Baylis wrote: OK, thanks. I guess they don't exist. I guess what I'll do is to add a circuit that requires the e-stop button to be pressed before a fault condition can be cleared. Then I have no choice but to twist the e-stop before resuming. Thanks, Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Hi Neil, I believe Eric is correct. After 30 years in industry (the last 20 specifically with CNC) I have never seen what you are describing. As Eric mentioned, a relay that must be activated by a reset switch would do the job. Reset switches for this purpose I have seen and included in some of the retrofits that I have done. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: "Eric Keller" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch My guess is that a switch with an actuator in it would be so expensive that nobody has ever bothered to market one. I think your best bet is to have a self-powering relay that can only be turned on by a momentary switch. Eric On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Neil Baylis wrote: Thanks Jim, I understand how to set up such a failsafe circuit. But in addition, I want the actual e-stop switch to activate and latch, so that regardless of whether the computer generates a fault condition, or I do it myself, I still have to manually release the switch before resuming operation. Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Hi Neil, Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes open (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit switch contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed stop functioning. Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I will send you an example. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: "Neil Baylis" To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, obviously. Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? Thanks, Neil Baylis No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2807 - Release Date: 04/12/10 21:32:00 -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2807 - Release Date: 04/12/10 21:32:00 -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
What's a safety relay? Is it a particular kind of relay? Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Alex Joni wrote: > Just use a safety relay for this, no need to reinvent the wheel.. > > Regards, > Alex > > > On 4/12/2010 10:10 PM, Neil Baylis wrote: >> >> OK, thanks. I guess they don't exist. >> >> I guess what I'll do is to add a circuit that requires the e-stop >> button to be pressed before a fault condition can be cleared. Then I >> have no choice but to twist the e-stop before resuming. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Neil >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Neil, >>> >>> I believe Eric is correct. After 30 years in industry (the last 20 >>> specifically with CNC) I have never seen what you are describing. As >>> Eric >>> mentioned, a relay that must be activated by a reset switch would do the >>> job. Reset switches for this purpose I have seen and included in some of >>> the retrofits that I have done. >>> >>> Have a good day, >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Eric Keller" >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:01 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch >>> >>> >>> My guess is that a switch with an actuator in it would be so expensive >>> that nobody has ever bothered to market one. I think your best bet is >>> to have a self-powering relay that can only be turned on by a >>> momentary switch. >>> Eric >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Neil Baylis >>> wrote: >>> Thanks Jim, I understand how to set up such a failsafe circuit. But in addition, I want the actual e-stop switch to activate and latch, so that regardless of whether the computer generates a fault condition, or I do it myself, I still have to manually release the switch before resuming operation. Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: > > Hi Neil, > > Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop > contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes > open > (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit > switch > contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed > stop > functioning. > > Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I > will > send you an example. > > Have a good day, > > Jim > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Neil Baylis" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM > Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch > > > >> >> I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the >> big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be >> turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can >> also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer >> detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just >> as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, >> obviously. >> >> Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Neil Baylis > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2807 - Release Date: 04/12/10 > 21:32:00 > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > -- http://www.pixpopuli.com -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
Just use a safety relay for this, no need to reinvent the wheel.. Regards, Alex On 4/12/2010 10:10 PM, Neil Baylis wrote: OK, thanks. I guess they don't exist. I guess what I'll do is to add a circuit that requires the e-stop button to be pressed before a fault condition can be cleared. Then I have no choice but to twist the e-stop before resuming. Thanks, Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Hi Neil, I believe Eric is correct. After 30 years in industry (the last 20 specifically with CNC) I have never seen what you are describing. As Eric mentioned, a relay that must be activated by a reset switch would do the job. Reset switches for this purpose I have seen and included in some of the retrofits that I have done. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: "Eric Keller" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch My guess is that a switch with an actuator in it would be so expensive that nobody has ever bothered to market one. I think your best bet is to have a self-powering relay that can only be turned on by a momentary switch. Eric On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Neil Baylis wrote: Thanks Jim, I understand how to set up such a failsafe circuit. But in addition, I want the actual e-stop switch to activate and latch, so that regardless of whether the computer generates a fault condition, or I do it myself, I still have to manually release the switch before resuming operation. Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Hi Neil, Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes open (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit switch contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed stop functioning. Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I will send you an example. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: "Neil Baylis" To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, obviously. Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? Thanks, Neil Baylis No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2807 - Release Date: 04/12/10 21:32:00 -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
Hi Neil, That is easy doable by adding contacts on the E stop switch and creating the logic to achieve the effect you desire. Jim - Original Message - From: "Neil Baylis" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch OK, thanks. I guess they don't exist. I guess what I'll do is to add a circuit that requires the e-stop button to be pressed before a fault condition can be cleared. Then I have no choice but to twist the e-stop before resuming. Thanks, Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: > Hi Neil, > > I believe Eric is correct. After 30 years in industry (the last 20 > specifically with CNC) I have never seen what you are describing. As Eric > mentioned, a relay that must be activated by a reset switch would do the > job. Reset switches for this purpose I have seen and included in some of > the retrofits that I have done. > > Have a good day, > > Jim > > > - Original Message - > From: "Eric Keller" > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch > > > My guess is that a switch with an actuator in it would be so expensive > that nobody has ever bothered to market one. I think your best bet is > to have a self-powering relay that can only be turned on by a > momentary switch. > Eric > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Neil Baylis > wrote: >> Thanks Jim, >> >> I understand how to set up such a failsafe circuit. But in addition, I >> want the actual e-stop switch to activate and latch, so that >> regardless of whether the computer generates a fault condition, or I >> do it myself, I still have to manually release the switch before >> resuming operation. >> >> >> Neil >> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services >> wrote: >>> Hi Neil, >>> >>> Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop >>> contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes >>> open >>> (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit >>> switch >>> contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed >>> stop >>> functioning. >>> >>> Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I >>> will >>> send you an example. >>> >>> Have a good day, >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Neil Baylis" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM >>> Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch >>> >>> I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, obviously. Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? Thanks, Neil Baylis -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.pixpopuli.com >> >> -- >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself.
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
OK, thanks. I guess they don't exist. I guess what I'll do is to add a circuit that requires the e-stop button to be pressed before a fault condition can be cleared. Then I have no choice but to twist the e-stop before resuming. Thanks, Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: > Hi Neil, > > I believe Eric is correct. After 30 years in industry (the last 20 > specifically with CNC) I have never seen what you are describing. As Eric > mentioned, a relay that must be activated by a reset switch would do the > job. Reset switches for this purpose I have seen and included in some of > the retrofits that I have done. > > Have a good day, > > Jim > > > - Original Message - > From: "Eric Keller" > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch > > > My guess is that a switch with an actuator in it would be so expensive > that nobody has ever bothered to market one. I think your best bet is > to have a self-powering relay that can only be turned on by a > momentary switch. > Eric > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Neil Baylis wrote: >> Thanks Jim, >> >> I understand how to set up such a failsafe circuit. But in addition, I >> want the actual e-stop switch to activate and latch, so that >> regardless of whether the computer generates a fault condition, or I >> do it myself, I still have to manually release the switch before >> resuming operation. >> >> >> Neil >> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services >> wrote: >>> Hi Neil, >>> >>> Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop >>> contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes >>> open >>> (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit switch >>> contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed >>> stop >>> functioning. >>> >>> Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I >>> will >>> send you an example. >>> >>> Have a good day, >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Neil Baylis" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM >>> Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch >>> >>> I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, obviously. Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? Thanks, Neil Baylis -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.pixpopuli.com >> >> -- >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.s
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
Hi Neil, I believe Eric is correct. After 30 years in industry (the last 20 specifically with CNC) I have never seen what you are describing. As Eric mentioned, a relay that must be activated by a reset switch would do the job. Reset switches for this purpose I have seen and included in some of the retrofits that I have done. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: "Eric Keller" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch My guess is that a switch with an actuator in it would be so expensive that nobody has ever bothered to market one. I think your best bet is to have a self-powering relay that can only be turned on by a momentary switch. Eric On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Neil Baylis wrote: > Thanks Jim, > > I understand how to set up such a failsafe circuit. But in addition, I > want the actual e-stop switch to activate and latch, so that > regardless of whether the computer generates a fault condition, or I > do it myself, I still have to manually release the switch before > resuming operation. > > > Neil > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services > wrote: >> Hi Neil, >> >> Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop >> contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes >> open >> (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit switch >> contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed >> stop >> functioning. >> >> Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I >> will >> send you an example. >> >> Have a good day, >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Neil Baylis" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM >> Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch >> >> >>> I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the >>> big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be >>> turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can >>> also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer >>> detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just >>> as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, >>> obviously. >>> >>> Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Neil Baylis >>> >>> -- >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> >> -- >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > > > -- > http://www.pixpopuli.com > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@li
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
My guess is that a switch with an actuator in it would be so expensive that nobody has ever bothered to market one. I think your best bet is to have a self-powering relay that can only be turned on by a momentary switch. Eric On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Neil Baylis wrote: > Thanks Jim, > > I understand how to set up such a failsafe circuit. But in addition, I > want the actual e-stop switch to activate and latch, so that > regardless of whether the computer generates a fault condition, or I > do it myself, I still have to manually release the switch before > resuming operation. > > > Neil > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services > wrote: >> Hi Neil, >> >> Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop >> contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes open >> (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit switch >> contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed stop >> functioning. >> >> Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I will >> send you an example. >> >> Have a good day, >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Neil Baylis" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM >> Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch >> >> >>> I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the >>> big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be >>> turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can >>> also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer >>> detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just >>> as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, >>> obviously. >>> >>> Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Neil Baylis >>> >>> -- >>> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >>> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >>> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >>> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> >> -- >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > > > -- > http://www.pixpopuli.com > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
Thanks Jim, I understand how to set up such a failsafe circuit. But in addition, I want the actual e-stop switch to activate and latch, so that regardless of whether the computer generates a fault condition, or I do it myself, I still have to manually release the switch before resuming operation. Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: > Hi Neil, > > Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop > contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes open > (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit switch > contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed stop > functioning. > > Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I will > send you an example. > > Have a good day, > > Jim > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Neil Baylis" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM > Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch > > >> I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the >> big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be >> turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can >> also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer >> detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just >> as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, >> obviously. >> >> Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Neil Baylis >> >> -- >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- http://www.pixpopuli.com -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
Hi Neil, Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes open (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit switch contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed stop functioning. Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I will send you an example. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: "Neil Baylis" To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch > I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the > big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be > turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can > also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer > detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just > as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, > obviously. > > Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? > > Thanks, > > Neil Baylis > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, obviously. Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? Thanks, Neil Baylis -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] (AXIS, stop) not working
Hello. Nothing changes if I try to execute (AXIS, stop) or (AXIS, hide[show]) I am using EMC2.3.5. Any suggestion? -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] High speed I/O for EMC
On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 16:21 -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: > I'm also wondering does EMC compile a pulse list and timing before the move > so there would be no > computation latency, or is it generated on the fly? Living with the NIST notion of "Sense -> Model -> Act" tends to limit one from building the buffered motion system you're thinking of. EMC started as a servo based system with real position feedback not just in the drives but at the heart of the computer system doing the control. Servo position control is still central to all that it does. Step and direction signals were an addition with compromises. I'll grant you that some step and direction systems lack the ability to sense real hardware position so we get into lots of discussion about how to detect lost steps. But at its core EMC senses all of the machine's state, including feedrate override and rate of change and factors that state into the next bit of motion rather than building an entire path ahead and then apply changing state variables to that predetermined path. -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] emc debian rules.
Jeff, I do not know if you are the right person if not, please disregard this. I have a few problems with the debian rules file from the latest git pull, trying to compile under debian lenny with kernel 2.6.30.5 and rtai 3.8 here is the relevant line in the rules file: cd src && ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-realtime=/usr/realtime-$(kernel_version) --enable-build-documentation=pdf --with-tclConfig=/usr/lib/tcl8.4/tclConfig.sh --with-tkConfig=/usr/lib/tk8.4/tkConfig.sh the tclConfig I have added because the configure script picked up tcl and tk 8.5 before 8.4 so that works now. the next problem that is biting badly is the realtime spec: --with-realtime=/usr/realtime-$(kernel_version) rtai 3.8 does not make a realtime directory anymore with the $(kernel_version) extension, it is just called "/usr/realtime" I made a symlink, but the build process uses on the one hand the above spec and on the other hand the spec from the rtai-config script. so there is confusion with dh_movefiles. lastly the rtai-config script was dumped in /usr/bin by rtai build process, so perhaps the configure script must check there also. I realize that this does not make things cleaner, especially if you want to build with more than one kernel on the same machine. I will fix all this, that is not the problem, but I like to hear also some comment from the community, so the fix will be more of a permanent nature. And perhaps some of it should rather be done in communication with the rtai group. Regards, Jan de Kruyf. -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users