Re: [Emc-users] Guidance on usb comp
Phil, what makes me appreciate EMC2 so much is the fact that I can use a regular off-the-shelf-PC and it will perform all there is needed to run a machine. Basically, no controller box, no C programming, no stepper indexer etc. re necessary. The price is that you can't upgrade your Linux. So what? I don't see the use of upgrading a perfectly running operating system if it does all it is supposed to (never change a winning team!). In case you feel the need for an upgrade it will be for another purpose aside of EMC - well, take another PC for that other purpose as you can find them thrown out at every company's junkyard. If you are so good in electronics and programming that you don't need EMC's real time features, why don't you build your own specific controller, write your code by yourself and forget EMC? EMC comprises great features for running CNC machines, almost for free, and it is not supposed to substitute expensive dedicated machine control computers (although it seems to be able for this, too, as we have seen in examples). Peter My concern is the following: Note: Do Not upgrade Ubuntu from the installed version as it will prevent EMC from working. If EMC was running on pure stock Linux rather than Linux+Realtime extensions it would be able to tollerate upgrades through the regular process. If the responsibility for timing was shifted from the kernel to the controller it would not be necessary to run with the 'realtime' package installed in the kernel. However if it was a windows os there would be lots of hacking going on to get something that appears to be real time Windows is not built to support real time. Although rather ironically the original kernel was. It is pretty difficult to timeshare a machine between real time tasks and supporting a GUI with real-time response. One or the other is going to end up taking precedence. The problem with USB is that it is a contended bus. So even if your host is running in real time there is no guarantee that signals get out to the end points in real time. That is why there is still a demand for MIDI interfaces despite them being much slower than USB. I would really prefer to have separate CPUs dedicated to scheduling and GUI. That way I don't have to worry about keeping the timing clean over the data wires, the only timing sensitive wires are carrying the signal. If I could eliminate the parallel port requirement, I can eliminate the need for a separate controller box entirely and just bring down one of the laptops when necessary. It also makes it possible to use the mill and the lathe simultaneously from a single host. -Original Message- From: Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:03:05 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Guidance on usb comp On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:44 AM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: Frank Tkalcevic wrote: The PoKeys55 docs claim that the device implements a standard USB HID keyboard and joystick. Based on that, I'd expect it to just work with hal_input. Is that not the case? You are correct. It doesn't use the HID Descriptor reports, so generic software can't query the device for its capabilities or message formats. Their messaging is specified in their document, but needs to be code specifically. The pokeys makers approached me to add support for it to hidcomp, but given how little spare time I have, it was too much work. What would be involved in getting it to work? When I tested it I only tested the analog inputs then lost track of it for a while. It would be nice if there was a way to interface CNC equipment via USB such that the timing of actions was being scheduled in the controller rather than by the host O/S. That way it would not be necessary to run a specific version of the O/S hacked up to provide real time scheduling. All that would be necessary would be to have the host able to guarantee response within a few seconds. Parallel ports are effectively obsolete these days and finding a motherboard with support is starting to confine selection. So this is effectively meaning I have to use an obsolete machine that I am not sure I could replace in a hurry. Making such an implementation safe would require a little more. There really should be some form of safety switch in the loop and that really should be capable of shutting the machine down dead, cutting power to the stepper motors and the spindle. A safety stop should be hardwired and failsafe. I am just making a box for my xylotec controller and I am seriously thinking about adding a safety stop and routing power to the machine being driven through the box. But in the longer term,
Re: [Emc-users] Guidance on usb comp
All, I have to agree with Peter. EMC2 has allowed me, as a hobbyist, to build an affordable CAD CAM post processor CNC system that rivals the big name ones I use in my workplace. Tool tables, pre-setter, homing, coolant, cutter comp, etc. I have huge respect for the intellectual curiosity of command line Linux coders, but if you want to make chips using off-the-shelf hardware for a retrofit or new build then EMC2 is perfect. Many thanks to its developers! Jim -Original Message- From: Peter Blodow [mailto:p.blo...@dreki.de] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 3:21 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Guidance on usb comp Phil, what makes me appreciate EMC2 so much is the fact that I can use a regular off-the-shelf-PC and it will perform all there is needed to run a machine. Basically, no controller box, no C programming, no stepper indexer etc. re necessary. The price is that you can't upgrade your Linux. So what? I don't see the use of upgrading a perfectly running operating system if it does all it is supposed to (never change a winning team!). In case you feel the need for an upgrade it will be for another purpose aside of EMC - well, take another PC for that other purpose as you can find them thrown out at every company's junkyard. If you are so good in electronics and programming that you don't need EMC's real time features, why don't you build your own specific controller, write your code by yourself and forget EMC? EMC comprises great features for running CNC machines, almost for free, and it is not supposed to substitute expensive dedicated machine control computers (although it seems to be able for this, too, as we have seen in examples). Peter My concern is the following: Note: Do Not upgrade Ubuntu from the installed version as it will prevent EMC from working. If EMC was running on pure stock Linux rather than Linux+Realtime extensions it would be able to tollerate upgrades through the regular process. If the responsibility for timing was shifted from the kernel to the controller it would not be necessary to run with the 'realtime' package installed in the kernel. However if it was a windows os there would be lots of hacking going on to get something that appears to be real time Windows is not built to support real time. Although rather ironically the original kernel was. It is pretty difficult to timeshare a machine between real time tasks and supporting a GUI with real-time response. One or the other is going to end up taking precedence. The problem with USB is that it is a contended bus. So even if your host is running in real time there is no guarantee that signals get out to the end points in real time. That is why there is still a demand for MIDI interfaces despite them being much slower than USB. I would really prefer to have separate CPUs dedicated to scheduling and GUI. That way I don't have to worry about keeping the timing clean over the data wires, the only timing sensitive wires are carrying the signal. If I could eliminate the parallel port requirement, I can eliminate the need for a separate controller box entirely and just bring down one of the laptops when necessary. It also makes it possible to use the mill and the lathe simultaneously from a single host. -Original Message- From: Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:03:05 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Guidance on usb comp On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:44 AM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: Frank Tkalcevic wrote: The PoKeys55 docs claim that the device implements a standard USB HID keyboard and joystick. Based on that, I'd expect it to just work with hal_input. Is that not the case? You are correct. It doesn't use the HID Descriptor reports, so generic software can't query the device for its capabilities or message formats. Their messaging is specified in their document, but needs to be code specifically. The pokeys makers approached me to add support for it to hidcomp, but given how little spare time I have, it was too much work. What would be involved in getting it to work? When I tested it I only tested the analog inputs then lost track of it for a while. It would be nice if there was a way to interface CNC equipment via USB such that the timing of actions was being scheduled in the controller rather than by the host O/S. That way it would not be necessary to run a specific version of the O/S hacked up to provide real time scheduling. All that would be necessary would be to have the host able to guarantee response within a few seconds. Parallel ports are effectively obsolete these days and finding a motherboard with support is starting to confine selection. So this is effectively meaning I
Re: [Emc-users] PATA/IDE port as a parallel port
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 16:47 +0200, fi wrote: Hi I saw this hack on : http://hackaday.com/2011/02/03/stk200-pocket-change-programmer/ This is the original page: http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/tutorials/elex/ata2isp/main.html Linux treat the ubiquitous PATA/IDE port as a parallel port ... Trick linux into creating a parallel port with the right base address. To do this, unload the parport_pc module #rmmod partport_pc Then do a force load with the new io address, in my case 0x170 #modprobe parport_pc io=0x170 irq=none,none,none Yes, the kernel should tell you your crazy and this probably wont work ... Can this hack work with EMC and rtlinux ? First I remembered ct flasher and 8255 but now I think some address decoding and LS373 would do the trick. What do you think ? On a single master PATA port we can have access to 256 pins, 16 groups of 16 pins(2 drives x 8 addresses x 16 bits), each group being only read or write; Is my math correct ? Is hal_parport.c the proper file to modify for 16 bit I/O over PATA ports ? Are other files to be modified ? Sorry for my english Florin -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] PATA/IDE port as a parallel port
On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 15:46 +0200, fi wrote: ... snip Is hal_parport.c the proper file to modify for 16 bit I/O over PATA ports ? Are other files to be modified ? ... snip From my study of the parallel port drivers, 90% of the code is for setting up the structs for managing the setup strings, and sharing multiple ports. When that is out of the way, it comes down to a simple outb or inb to a few registers. I suspect the PATA interface might be the same except that 90% of the code will be PATA specific, so the parport code may not be helpful. If one is going to go through the effort of a new design, I would vote for pursuing a PLX based PCI or PCI-X interface like this one: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/uploads/pci1_15_02_sch_wiki.pdf (from this page: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?AVR ) (It seems to me, the old ISA slots would be perfect for real-time interfacing.) I am guessing here, but the only active part of the parallel port driver is in/outb which lives well with real-time. This may not be the case with PATA or PCI. Study of the PCI FPGA examples may shed light on this. On the other hand, if your time is money, just buying an existing PCI or PCI-X motion card would be cheaper. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html California, USA -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] ssh -Y -l gene shop, revisited.
Greetings all; I have not been able to run emc by remote ssh login since I updated to 10.4 LTS and 2.4.6. When the DEBUG=0 in the .ini file is changed to a 1, the dmesg output is a lot more verbose. Here is a snippet: === [358682.258663] I-pipe: Domain RTAI registered. [358682.258684] RTAI[hal]: 3.8.1 mounted over IPIPE-NOTHREADS 2.6-03. [358682.258688] RTAI[hal]: compiled with gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) . [358682.258698] RTAI[hal]: mounted (IPIPE-NOTHREADS, IMMEDIATE (INTERNAL IRQs DISPATCHED), ISOL_CPUS_MASK: 0). [358682.258702] PIPELINE layers: [358682.258707] e1137e20 9ac15d93 RTAI 200 [358682.258711] c085cb20 0 Linux 100 [358682.300991] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, BSD. [358682.301300] RTAI[sched]: IMMEDIATE, MP, USER/KERNEL SPACE: with RTAI OWN KTASKs, kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes. [358682.301308] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = APIC/16624370(Hz); default timing: periodic; linear timed lists. [358682.301314] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq = 1396526000 hz. [358682.301318] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 999 ns, resched latency = 2943 ns. [358682.301523] RTAI[usi]: enabled. [358682.466798] RTAI[math]: loaded. [358682.594503] config string '0x378 out ' [358686.370549] RTAI[math]: unloaded. [358686.493961] SCHED releases registered named ALIEN RTGLBH [358686.510772] RTAI[malloc]: unloaded. [358686.608026] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions: traps 0, syscalls 0). [358686.616970] I-pipe: Domain RTAI unregistered. [358686.616987] RTAI[hal]: unmounted. = But still no real clue. The recommended reading material from the failure message: gene@shop:~/emc2/configs/genes-mill$ cat /home/gene/emc_debug.txt 7219 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 7265 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND Stopping realtime threads Unloading hal components == Not terribly informative, then from emc_print.txt == gene@shop:~/emc2/configs/genes-mill$ cat /home/gene/emc_print.txt RUN_IN_PLACE=no EMC2_DIR= EMC2_BIN_DIR=/usr/bin EMC2_TCL_DIR=/usr/share/emc/tcl EMC2_SCRIPT_DIR= EMC2_RTLIB_DIR=/usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/modules/emc2 EMC2_CONFIG_DIR= EMC2_LANG_DIR=/usr/share/emc/tcl/msgs INIVAR=inivar HALCMD=halcmd EMC2_EMCSH=/usr/bin/wish8.5 Using previous inifile: /home/gene/emc2/configs/genes-mill/genes-mill.ini INIFILE=/home/gene/emc2/configs/genes-mill/genes-mill.ini PARAMETER_FILE=emc.var EMCMOT=motmod EMCIO=io TASK=milltask HALUI= DISPLAY=axis NML_FILE= Starting EMC2 server program: emcsvr Loading Real Time OS, RTAPI, and HAL_LIB modules Starting EMC2 IO program: io Starting EMC2 TASK program: milltask Starting EMC2 DISPLAY program: axis Killing task emcsvr, PID=7219 Killing task milltask, PID=7265 Removing HAL_LIB, RTAPI, and Real Time OS modules Removing NML shared memory segments = equally informative, not. I see the splash image, and the little tool changer window is drawn, but axis itself seems incapable of dealing with a non-localhost .0 X. To what value do I set DEBUG to, to get something that offers a clue? -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) http://tinyurl.com/ddg5bz Eureka! -- Archimedes -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] What does R parameter mean in G73?
I am not sure what it means in relation to G73 drilling cycle. The withdrawal height? -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] ssh -Y -l gene shop, revisited.
Try using a different GUI for tests (tkemc or mini). Maybe there's no GLX extension on your remote X server Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 2:45 AM Subject: [Emc-users] ssh -Y -l gene shop, revisited. Greetings all; I have not been able to run emc by remote ssh login since I updated to 10.4 LTS and 2.4.6. When the DEBUG=0 in the .ini file is changed to a 1, the dmesg output is a lot more verbose. Here is a snippet: === [358682.258663] I-pipe: Domain RTAI registered. [358682.258684] RTAI[hal]: 3.8.1 mounted over IPIPE-NOTHREADS 2.6-03. [358682.258688] RTAI[hal]: compiled with gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) . [358682.258698] RTAI[hal]: mounted (IPIPE-NOTHREADS, IMMEDIATE (INTERNAL IRQs DISPATCHED), ISOL_CPUS_MASK: 0). [358682.258702] PIPELINE layers: [358682.258707] e1137e20 9ac15d93 RTAI 200 [358682.258711] c085cb20 0 Linux 100 [358682.300991] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, BSD. [358682.301300] RTAI[sched]: IMMEDIATE, MP, USER/KERNEL SPACE: with RTAI OWN KTASKs, kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes. [358682.301308] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = APIC/16624370(Hz); default timing: periodic; linear timed lists. [358682.301314] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq = 1396526000 hz. [358682.301318] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 999 ns, resched latency = 2943 ns. [358682.301523] RTAI[usi]: enabled. [358682.466798] RTAI[math]: loaded. [358682.594503] config string '0x378 out ' [358686.370549] RTAI[math]: unloaded. [358686.493961] SCHED releases registered named ALIEN RTGLBH [358686.510772] RTAI[malloc]: unloaded. [358686.608026] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions: traps 0, syscalls 0). [358686.616970] I-pipe: Domain RTAI unregistered. [358686.616987] RTAI[hal]: unmounted. = But still no real clue. The recommended reading material from the failure message: gene@shop:~/emc2/configs/genes-mill$ cat /home/gene/emc_debug.txt 7219 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 7265 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND Stopping realtime threads Unloading hal components == Not terribly informative, then from emc_print.txt == gene@shop:~/emc2/configs/genes-mill$ cat /home/gene/emc_print.txt RUN_IN_PLACE=no EMC2_DIR= EMC2_BIN_DIR=/usr/bin EMC2_TCL_DIR=/usr/share/emc/tcl EMC2_SCRIPT_DIR= EMC2_RTLIB_DIR=/usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/modules/emc2 EMC2_CONFIG_DIR= EMC2_LANG_DIR=/usr/share/emc/tcl/msgs INIVAR=inivar HALCMD=halcmd EMC2_EMCSH=/usr/bin/wish8.5 Using previous inifile: /home/gene/emc2/configs/genes-mill/genes-mill.ini INIFILE=/home/gene/emc2/configs/genes-mill/genes-mill.ini PARAMETER_FILE=emc.var EMCMOT=motmod EMCIO=io TASK=milltask HALUI= DISPLAY=axis NML_FILE= Starting EMC2 server program: emcsvr Loading Real Time OS, RTAPI, and HAL_LIB modules Starting EMC2 IO program: io Starting EMC2 TASK program: milltask Starting EMC2 DISPLAY program: axis Killing task emcsvr, PID=7219 Killing task milltask, PID=7265 Removing HAL_LIB, RTAPI, and Real Time OS modules Removing NML shared memory segments = equally informative, not. I see the splash image, and the little tool changer window is drawn, but axis itself seems incapable of dealing with a non-localhost .0 X. To what value do I set DEBUG to, to get something that offers a clue? -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) http://tinyurl.com/ddg5bz Eureka! -- Archimedes -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list
Re: [Emc-users] ssh -Y -l gene shop, revisited.
On 2/25/2011 8:28 PM, Alex Joni wrote: Try using a different GUI for tests (tkemc or mini). Maybe there's no GLX extension on your remote X server Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: gene heskettghesk...@wdtv.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 2:45 AM Subject: [Emc-users] ssh -Y -l gene shop, revisited. Greetings all; I have not been able to run emc by remote ssh login since I updated to 10.4 LTS and 2.4.6. Gene: Not knowing who remembers the X-nomenclature, the remote X server is running the display on the host where you're trying to see the axis output. Assuming that that machine is running Linux, you can check Alex's conjecture by looking at the Xorg.0.log file (or such) in /var/log. I just ran grep -i glx Xorg.0.log on my host and found lines like LoadModule: glx and more as expected. I'm not sure but would expect that any X-client errors show up in the comparable log (and/or possibly user.log) on the host that is running emc2. Good hunting, Kent -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] ssh -Y -l gene shop, revisited.
On Friday, February 25, 2011 10:19:47 pm Alex Joni did opine: Try using a different GUI for tests (tkemc or mini). Maybe there's no GLX extension on your remote X server Regards, Alex It is, but its nvidia's according to glxinfo. Changing to tkemc makes it work but no backplot, and IIRC tkemc used to have one. [gene@coyote log]$ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation server glx version string: 1.4 server glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_EXT_swap_control, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile, GLX_ARB_create_context_robustness, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_NV_float_buffer, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_NV_swap_group, GLX_NV_video_out, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_EXT_swap_control, GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, GLX_NV_float_buffer, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB, GLX_NV_present_video, GLX_NV_copy_image, GLX_NV_multisample_coverage, GLX_NV_video_capture, GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile, GLX_ARB_create_context_robustness GLX version: 1.4 GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_EXT_swap_control, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile, GLX_ARB_create_context_robustness, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_NV_float_buffer, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 9400 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 260.19.29 OpenGL shading language version string: 3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_blend_func_extended, GL_ARB_color_buffer_float, GL_ARB_compatibility, GL_ARB_copy_buffer, GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float, [snip next 300 lines] Since its running the vesa driver on shop, but nvidia here, is that enough to kill it? It has worked before, from vesa to nvidia, with the usual video update lags from nvidia, but since I was carving air, if I want to look at the fine detail I just slow it down till the video can keep up. In fact, its not even carving air since the motor power supply is turned off. Thanks Alex. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) http://tinyurl.com/ddg5bz I respect faith, but doubt is what gives you an education. -- Wilson Mizner -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] ssh -Y -l gene shop, revisited.
On Friday, February 25, 2011 10:35:47 pm Kent A. Reed did opine: On 2/25/2011 8:28 PM, Alex Joni wrote: Try using a different GUI for tests (tkemc or mini). Maybe there's no GLX extension on your remote X server Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: gene heskettghesk...@wdtv.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 2:45 AM Subject: [Emc-users] ssh -Y -l gene shop, revisited. Greetings all; I have not been able to run emc by remote ssh login since I updated to 10.4 LTS and 2.4.6. Gene: Not knowing who remembers the X-nomenclature, the remote X server is running the display on the host where you're trying to see the axis output. Assuming that that machine is running Linux, you can check Alex's conjecture by looking at the Xorg.0.log file (or such) in /var/log. I just ran grep -i glx Xorg.0.log on my host and found lines like LoadModule: glx and more as expected. I'm not sure but would expect that any X-client errors show up in the comparable log (and/or possibly user.log) on the host that is running emc2. file:///shop/var/log/Xorg.0.log doesn't have any errors reported. The glx there is AIGLX as it now has an ati card in it, where as the glx here is from an nvidia driver thats about 6 weeks old. Good hunting, Kent Thanks Kent. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) http://tinyurl.com/ddg5bz Let's all show human CONCERN for REVERAND MOON's legal difficulties!! -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] ssh -Y -l gene shop, revisited.
gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; I have not been able to run emc by remote ssh login since I updated to 10.4 LTS and 2.4.6. Much faster than trying to run EMC is to run glxgears remotely. If you can get that to run, then you ought to be able to run EMC2 as well. But, the 3D preview will take up a lot of resources. Jon -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] ssh -Y -l gene shop, revisited.
On Saturday, February 26, 2011 12:32:40 am Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; I have not been able to run emc by remote ssh login since I updated to 10.4 LTS and 2.4.6. Much faster than trying to run EMC is to run glxgears remotely. If you can get that to run, then you ought to be able to run EMC2 as well. But, the 3D preview will take up a lot of resources. Jon Humm, this might be a clue, Jon: gene@shop:~/emc2/configs/genes-mill$ glxgears Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual But I have NDI what its really trying to tell me. Clue here? Thanks Jon. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) http://tinyurl.com/ddg5bz It doesn't matter what you do, it only matters what you say you've done and what you're going to do. -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] ssh -Y -l gene shop, revisited.
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 00:34 -0500, gene heskett wrote: ... snip gene@shop:~/emc2/configs/genes-mill$ glxgears Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual But I have NDI what its really trying to tell me. Clue here? Thanks Jon. I got this: The Video Ram option in xorg.conf was commented out. I uncommented it and everything works fine now! from this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/glxgears-error-couldnt-get-an-rgb-double-buffered-visual-427461/ Actually searching couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual, got different answers, but it seems that the xorg.conf needs to be set some how. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html California, USA -- Free Software Download: Index, Search Analyze Logs and other IT data in Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all the fast moving IT data generated by your applications, servers and devices whether physical, virtual or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and gain new business insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
