Re: [Emc-users] pmount package and pmount/pumount commands [Was: Beaglebone USB]

2013-12-03 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 12/3/2013 12:41 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
 On 02.12.13 18:49, Andrew wrote:
 I installed pmount package and nothing changed. When I try to mount or open
 a flash drive from 'linuxcnc' session: 'Failed to mount PENDRIVE. Not
 Authorised'
 Er, are you using the pmount command?

 (On ubuntu, we are in group plugdev by default, it seems.
 Dunno about debian.)

 No such problem with 'root'.
 Well, root doesn't need to use the pmount command, because it has mount
 permissions. ;-)

 Erik
 (Who uses pumount to unmount flashsticks before pulling them out, to
 ensure that all data has been written. Mounting is automatic on ubuntu.)


Erik:

I was dubious too but I've now duplicated Andrew's situation on my own 
Beaglebone Black.

With the Debian install on this board, the group plugdev exists and is 
empty and the pmount package is not installed.

When I install the pmount package the group pmount remains empty and I 
can't invoke pmount as a normal user. In my case, I get bash's classic 
complaint, Permission denied. I don't see Erik's Failed to mount... 
message. IIRC, this latter message is usually issued by mount when fstab 
isn't set properly.

When I added myself to the group pmount, as the man pages explicitly 
notes must be done for Debian, I still couldn't invoke pmount as myself, 
although I should be able to since /usr/bin/pmount has file mode bits: 
-rwsr-xr-- [Note that I always logout and login again to ensure my 
changes to /etc/group are picked up.]

As expected, I can invoke pmount as root, and if I install the sudo 
package and add myself to the sudoers list, I can invoke 'sudo pmount' 
whether or not I'm a member of group plugdev.

My results suggest there is something rotten in the state of Debian.

Regards,
Kent


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Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone USB

2013-12-03 Thread Jeff
Hi,

   I'm using MachineKit as well.  To be able to use my USB thumb drive I do the 
following (with an internet connection via the ethernet port):

sudo apt-get install pmount

then I use:

sudo fdisk -l

to find the USB drive.  It usually ends up being sda.  There were two 
partitions on the drive, sda1 and sda2, so I use:

sudo pmount sda2

since that is where the data I want to access is.  After this I could access 
the drive.  This is not a permanent fix (if that is what you are looking for).  
I need to do this every time after I boot (which really isn't an issue for me 
since I'm setting up fresh LinuxCNC MachineKit systems and copying over files 
to the new uSD).  Sometimes I need to re-insert the thumb drive if it isn't 
found after booting up.  

  To make the mount happen at bootup you should be able to change the 
/etc/fstab file.  You can try adding the following line to your fstab file to 
get it to mount at boot time:

/media/sda2  / ext4 noatime,errors=remount-ro 0 0

Follow the same format as the mmcblk lines in the file.  If your disk isn't 
sda2, then change that to whatever it shows up as from the fdisk command 
(above).

Jeff


 From: pkm...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 21:45:15 +0200
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone USB

 2013/12/2 Kent A. Reed
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 On 12/2/2013 11:49 AM, Andrew wrote:
 2013/12/2 Charles Steinkuehler 
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 On 12/2/2013 12:08 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
 Perhaps you can talk Charles into including the pmount package in his
 distro.
 I installed the minimum amount of packages I could to get LinuxCNC built
 and running. But Debian has just about anything you might ever want,
 just aptitude install package.

 I installed pmount package and nothing changed. When I try to mount or
 open
 a flash drive from 'linuxcnc' session: 'Failed to mount PENDRIVE. Not
 Authorised'
 No such problem with 'root'.


 My knowledge may be out of date but the last time I looked at pmount it
 required the user to be a member of the group plugdev.

 Thanks for the tip.
 I just did
 addgroup linuxcnc plugdev
 and nothing's changed.

 More googling shows that the problem is much deeper.
 There's a solution in this thread
 http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2011-10/msg01232.html
 I will probably try it later.
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[Emc-users] OneCNC post for LinuxCNC?

2013-12-03 Thread David Bagby
Hi,
Anyone around that uses both OneCNC (CAM) and Linux CNC?
I'm looking for a OneCNC (XR4 or XR5) post processor  for Linux CNC.
I figure I can make one from a generic Fanuc post, but thought I'd ask 
first in case someone already has one.
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Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone USB

2013-12-03 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
 I've been fighting with USB port on my BBB for a few month.
 First, I can't connect separate keyboard and mouse - only combo devices.
 USB hubs won't work (I tried a few). Obviously I can't use USB flash
drives
 either.

Strange, I had all these problems with my Raspberry Pi.  It would only work
with 1 USB hub I had.  I haven't had compatibility problems with BBB.

 Second, when I unplug USB keyboard and plug it back, BBB does not see it
 again.

From memory, the BBB doesn't support hot plugging USB devices (or doesn't do
it well).   I spent a day messing with that.  I don't have a problem if
everything is connected at power up.




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Re: [Emc-users] Beaglebone USB

2013-12-03 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 12/2/2013 2:08 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
 On 12/2/2013 1:45 PM, Andrew wrote:
 snip
 More googling shows that the problem is much deeper.
 There's a solution in this thread
 http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2011-10/msg01232.html
 I will probably try it later.
 
 Fell free to switch to LXDE or some other window system if the issue is
 peculiar to XFCE.  I selected XFCE somewhat arbitrarily, based mainly on
 how usable it seemed with minimal install effort on my part.  LXDE could
 very easily have been a better choice, and I'm not particularly tied to
 any one specific GUI window manager.
 
 Reading through some of the Debian bugs and wiki pages, it sounds like
 this could be the result of using xdm instead of something else.  You
 might try installing LightDM as a replacement and see if that fixes
 things up w/o pulling in too much extra bloat.
 
 Let me know if you get a fix.  This seems useful to have working by
 default on the MachineKit images if the fix isn't too messy.

Please try the following.  At a command prompt run:

  sudo aptitude install lightdm

When prompted to pick a default display manager, choose lightdm instead
of xdm.  Once everything is installed, reboot and see if your USB issue
is fixed.

This only seems to pull in a few additional packages, and the lightdm is
trusted by ConsoleKit, so things like the shutdown and reboot icons work
(and hopefully your USB disk mounting).

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Re: [Emc-users] pmount package and pmount/pumount commands [Was: Beaglebone USB]

2013-12-03 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 03.12.13 09:33, Kent A. Reed wrote:
 When I added myself to the group pmount, as the man pages explicitly 
 notes must be done for Debian, I still couldn't invoke pmount as myself, 
 although I should be able to since /usr/bin/pmount has file mode bits: 
 -rwsr-xr-- [Note that I always logout and login again to ensure my 
 changes to /etc/group are picked up.]

Then perhaps the quickest workaround for the OP is to do a:

$ sudo chmod o+x /usr/bin/pmount

Then anyone can run it, and the Debian bug is avoided, admittedly at the
cost of the risk that any of the hundreds of users on his home system
could mount the flash drive as well. :^)

 As expected, I can invoke pmount as root, and if I install the sudo 
 package and add myself to the sudoers list, I can invoke 'sudo pmount' 
 whether or not I'm a member of group plugdev.

Now that's bending over backwards to let Debian off the hook - 'sudo
mount' has to be enough, as I'm sure you could tell me. (The whole point
of pmount is to save having to be in /etc/sudoers, AIUI.)

 My results suggest there is something rotten in the state of Debian.

Pretty darn convincingly, I'd say. A bug report is well warranted, I
figure.

Erik

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