Re: [Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer

2014-10-25 Thread Brian Morel
Below is what I just used for a build.  Seems to work good so far.

1 of: V7 Standard PS/2 Keyboard and Mouse Combo (CK0A2-4N6P)
1 of: Kingston Digital 60GB SSDNow V300 SATA 3 2.5 (7mm height) with
Adapter Solid State Drive SV300S37A/60G
1 of: ADATA Premier Series DDR3 1333Mhz 8 GB Laptop Memory Kit 2 x 4 GB CL9
Dual Channel SO-DIMM AD3S1333C4G9-2
1 of: ASRock Motherboard Mini D1800B-ITX
1 of: MI-008 Tower Black P4 Chassis with 250W Itx Psu+sata Power Supply

Brian

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Chris Morley 
wrote:

> I am interested in building a computer using this mb:
>
> http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157565&cm_re=j1900-_-13-157-565-_-Product
>
> ( Peter from Mesa mentioned it at some time - I want the PCI and parport)
> I do understand it will require a recent kernel.
>
> Can anyone recommend the rest of the required pieces for it?
> memory, power supply, ssd etc.
>
> looking for some fairly specific info, I am not up on or very interested
> in researching every option.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Chris M
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Versa

2014-10-25 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 10/25/2014 08:14 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote:
> On 10/25/2014 07:12 PM, TJoseph Powderly wrote:
>> On 10/25/2014 09:05 PM, Ed wrote:
>>> On 10/25/2014 07:29 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote:
 My Shizuoka mill has a pneumatic valve block with a Versa valve (for the
 tool arm in/out) that looks just like this one:
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/161456516453

 The seals have hardened and need to be replaced. I can find the o-rings
 and the X-rings. BTW here:
 http://www.theoringstore.com/

 But I haven't been able to find the u-ring seals that are on the ends of
 the shuttle. Like this:
 http://www.theoringstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=172_997_1011

 Has anyone worked on these and knows which part to get?

 Thank you.


>>>
>>> When you say shuttle do you mean piston of the cylinder?
>>>
>>> I deal a lot in seals of that type, get me:
>>>
>>> Seal OD (bore of cyl )
>>> Seal ID (diameter at bottom of groove)
>>> Seal width
>>>
>>> Ed.
> ... snip
>
>> and note any reinforcement ( some cup seals have metal bands or ring
>> springs in addition to the soft bit )
>> oh and if you use any lube in the air (viton vs butyl vs rubber can react )
>> pix is always good
>> tomp tjtr33
>
> Thank you Ed and Tom. I'll post pictures and dimensions tomorrow
> morning. I recall the seal being 1" OD, .75" ID and .103" wide, but I'll
> make sure before I post the pictures.
>
> Instead of shuttle, I think I meant to call it a bobbin which actually
> may be a hydraulics term. The valve body has a .43" diameter rod which
> has a short 1" diameter piston screwed to each end. Each piston is
> driven by a solenoid. I need the two piston seals.
>

Ugh, I think I finally got the correct word... SPOOL

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Re: [Emc-users] Versa

2014-10-25 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 10/25/2014 07:12 PM, TJoseph Powderly wrote:
> On 10/25/2014 09:05 PM, Ed wrote:
>> On 10/25/2014 07:29 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote:
>>> My Shizuoka mill has a pneumatic valve block with a Versa valve (for the
>>> tool arm in/out) that looks just like this one:
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/161456516453
>>>
>>> The seals have hardened and need to be replaced. I can find the o-rings
>>> and the X-rings. BTW here:
>>> http://www.theoringstore.com/
>>>
>>> But I haven't been able to find the u-ring seals that are on the ends of
>>> the shuttle. Like this:
>>> http://www.theoringstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=172_997_1011
>>>
>>> Has anyone worked on these and knows which part to get?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> When you say shuttle do you mean piston of the cylinder?
>>
>> I deal a lot in seals of that type, get me:
>>
>> Seal OD (bore of cyl )
>> Seal ID (diameter at bottom of groove)
>> Seal width
>>
>> Ed.
... snip

> and note any reinforcement ( some cup seals have metal bands or ring
> springs in addition to the soft bit )
> oh and if you use any lube in the air (viton vs butyl vs rubber can react )
> pix is always good
> tomp tjtr33

Thank you Ed and Tom. I'll post pictures and dimensions tomorrow 
morning. I recall the seal being 1" OD, .75" ID and .103" wide, but I'll 
make sure before I post the pictures.

Instead of shuttle, I think I meant to call it a bobbin which actually 
may be a hydraulics term. The valve body has a .43" diameter rod which 
has a short 1" diameter piston screwed to each end. Each piston is 
driven by a solenoid. I need the two piston seals.

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Re: [Emc-users] Versa

2014-10-25 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 10/25/2014 09:05 PM, Ed wrote:
> On 10/25/2014 07:29 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote:
>> My Shizuoka mill has a pneumatic valve block with a Versa valve (for the
>> tool arm in/out) that looks just like this one:
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/161456516453
>>
>> The seals have hardened and need to be replaced. I can find the o-rings
>> and the X-rings. BTW here:
>> http://www.theoringstore.com/
>>
>> But I haven't been able to find the u-ring seals that are on the ends of
>> the shuttle. Like this:
>> http://www.theoringstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=172_997_1011
>>
>> Has anyone worked on these and knows which part to get?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>
> When you say shuttle do you mean piston of the cylinder?
>
> I deal a lot in seals of that type, get me:
>
> Seal OD (bore of cyl )
> Seal ID (diameter at bottom of groove)
> Seal width
>
> Ed.
>
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and note any reinforcement ( some cup seals have metal bands or ring 
springs in addition to the soft bit )
oh and if you use any lube in the air (viton vs butyl vs rubber can react )
pix is always good
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Re: [Emc-users] Versa

2014-10-25 Thread Ed
On 10/25/2014 07:29 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote:
> My Shizuoka mill has a pneumatic valve block with a Versa valve (for the
> tool arm in/out) that looks just like this one:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/161456516453
>
> The seals have hardened and need to be replaced. I can find the o-rings
> and the X-rings. BTW here:
> http://www.theoringstore.com/
>
> But I haven't been able to find the u-ring seals that are on the ends of
> the shuttle. Like this:
> http://www.theoringstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=172_997_1011
>
> Has anyone worked on these and knows which part to get?
>
> Thank you.
>
>

When you say shuttle do you mean piston of the cylinder?

I deal a lot in seals of that type, get me:

Seal OD (bore of cyl )
Seal ID (diameter at bottom of groove)
Seal width

Ed.


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[Emc-users] building a linuxcnc computer

2014-10-25 Thread Chris Morley
I am interested in building a computer using this mb:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157565&cm_re=j1900-_-13-157-565-_-Product

( Peter from Mesa mentioned it at some time - I want the PCI and parport)
I do understand it will require a recent kernel.

Can anyone recommend the rest of the required pieces for it?
memory, power supply, ssd etc.

looking for some fairly specific info, I am not up on or very interested
in researching every option.

Thanks for any help.

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[Emc-users] Versa

2014-10-25 Thread Kirk Wallace
My Shizuoka mill has a pneumatic valve block with a Versa valve (for the 
tool arm in/out) that looks just like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161456516453

The seals have hardened and need to be replaced. I can find the o-rings 
and the X-rings. BTW here:
http://www.theoringstore.com/

But I haven't been able to find the u-ring seals that are on the ends of 
the shuttle. Like this:
http://www.theoringstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=172_997_1011

Has anyone worked on these and knows which part to get?

Thank you.


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Re: [Emc-users] Mainboard suggestions for a 5axis stepper machine

2014-10-25 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-10-25 22:45 GMT+03:00 Viesturs Lācis :
> 2013-10-25 21:36 GMT+03:00 Florian Rist :
>>> I ordered a set of these recently for a very price sensitive project:
>>>
>>>
http://www.hotmcu.com/tb6600-1-axis-stepper-motor-2phase-driver-board-for-cnc-router-p-56.html?cPath=7_30&zenid=pjqheuerppbjhploln9qfibto7
>>
>> I ordered some and I'll give them a try.

I am now looking at this version:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191216211393

It seems somewhat refreshed, compared to previous link.

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Re: [Emc-users] Mainboard suggestions for a 5axis stepper machine

2014-10-25 Thread Dave Cole
On 10/25/2014 3:45 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote:
> 2013-10-25 21:36 GMT+03:00 Florian Rist :
>>> I ordered a set of these recently for a very price sensitive project:
>>>
>>> http://www.hotmcu.com/tb6600-1-axis-stepper-motor-2phase-driver-board-for-cnc-router-p-56.html?cPath=7_30&zenid=pjqheuerppbjhploln9qfibto7
>> I ordered some and I'll give them a try.
>
> Guys, can anyone share any feedback about these stepper drives and how
> do they actually work on real machines?
>
> Viesturs
>
I have three of those in a box here. They are waiting to be installed on 
some nema 23 steppers on an engraver.

I searched for feedback on these drives and everything I saw was positive.

I bought them off Ebay for $15 each I believe with free shipping from 
Hong Kong.

Dave

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Re: [Emc-users] Mainboard suggestions for a 5axis stepper machine

2014-10-25 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013-10-25 21:36 GMT+03:00 Florian Rist :
>> I ordered a set of these recently for a very price sensitive project:
>>
>> http://www.hotmcu.com/tb6600-1-axis-stepper-motor-2phase-driver-board-for-cnc-router-p-56.html?cPath=7_30&zenid=pjqheuerppbjhploln9qfibto7
>
> I ordered some and I'll give them a try.


Guys, can anyone share any feedback about these stepper drives and how
do they actually work on real machines?

Viesturs

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[Emc-users] Mystical error on startup

2014-10-25 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello!

I was playing with the config on my router, when suddenly I started to
receive this error message.
I was configuring rotary axis, got it turning, so I changed stepgen
scale in INI file, restarted LinuxCNC and got this error.
I tried reverting whatever changes made also prior scale change, did
not help. Restarting PC also does not help. Some very old and outdated
configs backup did work, I tried to check for any strange differences
(like typos etc), but no luck there.

The thing is that I do not see any line, related to any of my config
files and I have no idea, what is "hal_init()" and how any of config
lines would affect it, so I will appreciate any suggestions.

Print file information:
RUN_IN_PLACE=no
LINUXCNC_DIR=
LINUXCNC_BIN_DIR=/usr/bin
LINUXCNC_TCL_DIR=/usr/lib/tcltk/linuxcnc
LINUXCNC_SCRIPT_DIR=
LINUXCNC_RTLIB_DIR=/usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/modules/linuxcnc
LINUXCNC_CONFIG_DIR=
LINUXCNC_LANG_DIR=/usr/share/linuxcnc/tcl/msgs
INIVAR=inivar
HALCMD=halcmd
LINUXCNC_EMCSH=/usr/bin/wish8.5
LINUXCNC - 2.6.1
Machine configuration directory is '/home/viesturs/linuxcnc/configs/hm2-5i24'
Machine configuration file is '5i24.ini'
INIFILE=/home/viesturs/linuxcnc/configs/hm2-5i24/5i24.ini
PARAMETER_FILE=hm2-servo.var
TASK=milltask
HALUI=halui
DISPLAY=axis
Starting LinuxCNC...
Starting LinuxCNC server program: linuxcncsvr
Loading Real Time OS, RTAPI, and HAL_LIB modules
Starting LinuxCNC IO program: io
Starting HAL User Interface program: halui
Starting TASK program: milltask
Starting DISPLAY program: axis
emcMotionInit: ini_hal_init fail
emcMotionInit: ini_hal_init fail
emcMotionInit: ini_hal_init fail
emcMotionInit: ini_hal_init fail
emcMotionInit: ini_hal_init fail
waiting for s.axes
waiting for s.axes
waiting for s.axes
waiting for s.axes
waiting for s.axes
waiting for s.axes
waiting for s.axes
waiting for s.axes
waiting for s.axes
Shutting down and cleaning up LinuxCNC...
emcMotionInit: ini_hal_init fail
Killing task linuxcncsvr, PID=3708
Killing task milltask, PID=3759
Removing HAL_LIB, RTAPI, and Real Time OS modules
Removing NML shared memory segments

Debug file information:
HAL: ERROR: duplicate component name 'inihal'
ini_hal_init: ERROR: hal_init() failed
HAL: ERROR: duplicate component name 'inihal'
ini_hal_init: ERROR: hal_init() failed
HAL: ERROR: duplicate component name 'inihal'
ini_hal_init: ERROR: hal_init() failed
HAL: ERROR: duplicate component name 'inihal'
ini_hal_init: ERROR: hal_init() failed
HAL: ERROR: duplicate component name 'inihal'
ini_hal_init: ERROR: hal_init() failed
A configuration error is preventing LinuxCNC from starting.
More information may be available when running from a terminal.
HAL: ERROR: duplicate component name 'inihal'
ini_hal_init: ERROR: hal_init() failed
3708
  PID TTY  STAT   TIME COMMAND
3759
  PID TTY  STAT   TIME COMMAND
Stopping realtime threads
Unloading hal components

Kernel message information:
[ 1093.871817] I-pipe: Domain RTAI registered.
[ 1093.871832] RTAI[hal]: <3.8.1> mounted over IPIPE-NOTHREADS 2.6-03.
[ 1093.871835] RTAI[hal]: compiled with gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu
4.4.3-4ubuntu5) .
[ 1093.871843] RTAI[hal]: mounted (IPIPE-NOTHREADS, IMMEDIATE
(INTERNAL IRQs DISPATCHED), ISOL_CPUS_MASK: 0).
[ 1093.871846] PIPELINE layers:
[ 1093.871850] e2c34e20 9ac15d93 RTAI 200
[ 1093.871853] c085cb20 0 Linux 100
[ 1093.904000] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, .
[ 1093.904618] RTAI[sched]: IMMEDIATE, MP, USER/KERNEL SPACE: , kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
[ 1093.904624] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = APIC/16704445(Hz);
default timing: periodic; linear timed lists.
[ 1093.904629] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq
= 1804159000 hz.
[ 1093.904632] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 999 ns, resched latency = 2943 ns.
[ 1093.904784] RTAI[usi]: enabled.
[ 1094.040807] RTAI[math]: loaded.
[ 1094.123795] GANTRYKINS: joints[0] = 0
[ 1094.123804] GANTRYKINS: joints[1] = 1
[ 1094.123808] GANTRYKINS: joints[2] = 2
[ 1094.123811] GANTRYKINS: joints[3] = 1
[ 1094.123815] GANTRYKINS: joints[4] = 3
[ 1094.123819] GANTRYKINS: joints[5] = -1
[ 1094.123823] GANTRYKINS: joints[6] = -1
[ 1094.123827] GANTRYKINS: joints[7] = -1
[ 1094.123831] GANTRYKINS: joints[8] = -1
[ 1094.168659] hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15
[ 1094.174935] hm2_pci: loading Mesa AnyIO HostMot2 driver version 0.7
[ 1094.175005] hm2_pci :01:07.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNK4] -> GSI 10
(level, low) -> IRQ 10
[ 1094.175011] hm2_pci: discovered 5i24 at :01:07.0
[ 1094.181693] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: 72 I/O Pins used:
[ 1094.181703] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: IO Pin 000 (P4-01): Encoder #0, pin A (Input)
[ 1094.181708] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: IO Pin 001 (P4-03): Encoder #0, pin B (Input)
[ 1094.181712] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: IO Pin 002 (P4-05): Encoder #0, pin
Index (Input)
[ 1094.181716] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: IO Pin 003 (P4-07): IOPort
[ 1094.181720] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: IO Pin 004 (P4-09): IOPort
[ 1094.181723] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: IO Pin 005 (P4-11): IOPort
[ 1094.1