Re: [Emc-users] Announcing the LinuxCNC 2.7 branch
A thousand thanks as always! Let's try it out to see how it works :) Leonardo. 2014-10-29 2:06 GMT-03:00 Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com: Greetings LinuxCNC people, I bring you glad tidings! One of the things we did at the recent Hackfest in Houston was creating the 2.7 branch. We will test and stabilize the code in this branch, and when the time is right we will release 2.7.0. I'm hopeful that the time until 2.7.0 is released is on the order of a handful of months. The headline features in 2.7 are: * A new high-speed trajectory planned (written by Rob Ellenberg) * Support for the RT-Preempt realtime kernel (written by Jeff Epler) In addition to the new RT-Preempt support, LinuxCNC 2.7 will run on RTAI and the vanilla Linux kernel just like 2.6 and earlier versions do. We are currently targeting the same set of Linux distributions for 2.7 as we did for 2.6: Ubuntu Lucid, Ubuntu Precise, and Debian Wheezy. The final set of supported distros may change as we get closer to release. This new branch does not mean that 2.6 will go away. I will keep maintaining the 2.6 branch and making releases as needed. Your CNC machines running LinuxCNC 2.6 will stay supported with bug fixes for a good long while still. So, you're asking, how can I help? I'm glad you asked! You can run the 2.7 pre-releases and submit bug reports! There are probably some rough edges and possibly lurking bugs that we'd like your help in finding before we release 2.7.0. You've been warned! The install instructions leave a lot to be desired at the moment, but it goes like this: * Install LinuxCNC 2.6, for example using the instructions here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpdatingTo2.6 * Upgrade to LinuxCNC 2.7 by picking an apt source line from here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpdatingTo2.7 Happy upgrading! Let us know how it works for you. -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- *Leonardo Marsaglia*. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Error on startup Lcnc
I found out that it was entirely hardware problem, because after moving parallel pci card to the other pci slot, it finally started to work. A wild guess might be that the PPMC board is not powered up or not connected? There is a Pico diagnostic program you might try. http://pico-systems.com/codes/univpwmdiags.tgz -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC Meeting Stuttgart, Germany 2014
PICS OR IT DID NOT HAPPEN! 2014-10-24 19:16 GMT+02:00 Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com : If you still need a place to crash or any help ring me up 0176 975 99 253 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Rene Hopf reneh...@mac.com wrote: I do not know if there is anything happening on Friday. If not I will spend the evening in the local Hackerspace: http://shackspace.de/ On 23 Oct 2014, at 12:59, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rene. I'm coming from Italy and I will arrive in Stuttgart on Friday mid afternoon. Are you going on site on Friday ? Alex On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Rene Hopf reneh...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I will arrive Friday evening, is there anything going on on Friday? Are the ABB robots for sale? If they are, I might need a bigger car… My driver is making good progress: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0s75igxbtm3qw8/2014-10-23%2012.27.22.jpg?dl=0 Rene On 02 Oct 2014, at 15:04, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Christian . So the Meeting will be on October 25th and 26th , ins't it ? I'm planning to be there . I would like to be on site since Friday 24th early afternoon is it possible ? I can help you to prepare the site if you want or whatever else you need to do for the Meeting. If something is changed please let me know. Regards Alex On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote: I could bring electric cabinet I built for Reis RV6 robot, connect it to the ABB robot and try to run it. Probably I could prepare for this in advance. It has Mesa electronics with 5i23, 7i44, 7i37, 6x 8i20 and 7i49 for resolvers, THCAD. Are you interested? Sure, why not. If the answer is YES, then.. For connection connector adapters are needed from Reis to ABB. For this connector parts to cabinet (Reis side) are needed: http://www.tme.eu/parking/99d7c3c845593fe353a7848e4474a3bb9d2b2676.html That's a Harting Han-72-DD connector - I will check on monday if we have one lying around. The ABB has a Harting Han-40-D - and I already organized 3 connectors with wires. Also I already figured out the pinout of the ABB's. ... could you please figure out what we would need to make adapters? Pinout of the Reis Han 72 DD, a soldering Iron and some shrinking tube I guess ;-) -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [Emc-users] Numeric entry with touchscreen and Glade
Andy have you a 5i20 ? i'm trying to add in the orient ( m19 ) can you see where i should link it in , i have a feeling i totaly lost the plot and trying to follow to add a mux for selecting 2 pwmgen scales for the gearbox as i also need to operate a relay too so is a mux approprate as you discussed http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/39-pncconf/28432-lathe-spindle-control-help-needed-in-pncconf?start=20 and becoming confused in the process , probably because i'm using a 5i20 and not a 5i25 which i'm more familiar with full config folder attached if it make it easier to open i have 2 pwmgen scales which are halcmd setp pwmgen.scale -5950 ( high range and default ) and low range halcmd setp pwmgen.scale -1550 along with a gpio pin to select true at the same time as this scale halcmd setp hm2_5i20.0.gpio.069.out if you haver a few mins Andy guide me out of this maze and correct me on the path to enlightenment as i'm sure iv'e mucked up somewhere On 28 October 2014 23:46, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 October 2014 22:32, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, that works a treat. Bah! Within limits anyway. I have ended up with a GtkEntry that has both icons active as up and down buttons. Looks good for touchscreen use. But I can't figure out how to get the icons to operate and also have the pop-up keyboard come up when something other than the icons is pressed. The whole widget responds to button_click, and the click-position is relative to the icon or the text entry, so no way to distinguish the icons from each other, or the left-hand edge of the text from either icon. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users daves-cpy.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC Meeting Stuttgart, Germany 2014
Hi to all. I've been at the Linuxcnc Meeting in Stuttgart and I've to say that it was a positive experience first of all for the people I met. A big THANK YOU to the promoters Christian and Andreas for their efforts , hospitality , kindness . They are very smart engineers/technicians/inventors with a wide experience in build smart things. The have the ability to create things that never be done before and very important is their opennes to share experiences with the community. I saw a Manutec 6 DOF robot arm getting a new life with the ability of Christain , Andreas and Marius contribute to integrate Linuxcnc with Mesa Cards , Granite Devices Drives and custom electronic + software stuffs. I met a Beatiful Mind and a kind person , Marius Alksnis. He was working on an ABB 6 DOF robot arm giving it (again) a new life . His ability in software/hardware/engineering is really impressive. I've taken from him inspirations to upgrade my personal knowlege . A great engineer and software developer is Norbert Schechner that is the main developer (and creator) of the gmoccapy user interface that introduced and realized a professional look and functional user interface targetted to machine tools collecting all the workshop people needs. An interesting enterprise by Rene Baumgärtner and Kevin that have made and industrial grade Linuxcnc box integrating PC+Mesa cards+PSU (24Vdc as I understood) + software specific for machine tools . Another contribute comes from Frank Rossette that made a fieldbus Hybrid application using the Ethercat High Speed deterministic ethernet based fieldbus to communicate with Linuxcnc and an Ethercat slave communicator (Beckoff Industrial grade hardware) with I/O slots . A side to the Ethercat slave communicator there is a CanOpen Master that communicate with 3 (axis) drives from Berger Lahr manufacturer. The closed loop position is not closed inside Linuxcnc but locally to the drive of each axis. This kind of configuration is really effective , clean (less wires/cables) , industrial grade and easy scalable. Three youg students and nearly engineers Nico , Rene and Lars offer their specific knowledge on PID tuning. I also met the two Michael one of them fighting with stepper drives problems on a 3 axis router . Very kind persons. All the other people I met (that I don't remember the names sorry) gave to the meeting a good feeling. Regards Alex On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: PICS OR IT DID NOT HAPPEN! 2014-10-24 19:16 GMT+02:00 Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com : If you still need a place to crash or any help ring me up 0176 975 99 253 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Rene Hopf reneh...@mac.com wrote: I do not know if there is anything happening on Friday. If not I will spend the evening in the local Hackerspace: http://shackspace.de/ On 23 Oct 2014, at 12:59, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rene. I'm coming from Italy and I will arrive in Stuttgart on Friday mid afternoon. Are you going on site on Friday ? Alex On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Rene Hopf reneh...@mac.com wrote: Hi, I will arrive Friday evening, is there anything going on on Friday? Are the ABB robots for sale? If they are, I might need a bigger car… My driver is making good progress: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0s75igxbtm3qw8/2014-10-23%2012.27.22.jpg?dl=0 Rene On 02 Oct 2014, at 15:04, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Christian . So the Meeting will be on October 25th and 26th , ins't it ? I'm planning to be there . I would like to be on site since Friday 24th early afternoon is it possible ? I can help you to prepare the site if you want or whatever else you need to do for the Meeting. If something is changed please let me know. Regards Alex On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote: I could bring electric cabinet I built for Reis RV6 robot, connect it to the ABB robot and try to run it. Probably I could prepare for this in advance. It has Mesa electronics with 5i23, 7i44, 7i37, 6x 8i20 and 7i49 for resolvers, THCAD. Are you interested? Sure, why not. If the answer is YES, then.. For connection connector adapters are needed from Reis to ABB. For this connector parts to cabinet (Reis side) are needed: http://www.tme.eu/parking/99d7c3c845593fe353a7848e4474a3bb9d2b2676.html That's a Harting Han-72-DD connector - I will check on monday if we have one lying around. The ABB has a Harting Han-40-D - and I already organized 3 connectors with wires. Also I already figured out the
Re: [Emc-users] Announcing the LinuxCNC 2.7 branch
Yay!! Great work. With the addition of RT_preempt - the mesa Ethernet cards are a breeze! With wheezy - there is an rt_preempt in the Debian repository. install - reboot - make some small changes to the interface noted here. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/man/man9/hm2_eth.9.html (so other things don't try to access the interface) and you have a real-time Ethernet connection. I have ran this setup for weeks with no real-time issues - I think peter has had systems up for 2/3 a year 24/7. exciting times... sam On 10/29/2014 12:06 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Greetings LinuxCNC people, I bring you glad tidings! One of the things we did at the recent Hackfest in Houston was creating the 2.7 branch. We will test and stabilize the code in this branch, and when the time is right we will release 2.7.0. I'm hopeful that the time until 2.7.0 is released is on the order of a handful of months. The headline features in 2.7 are: * A new high-speed trajectory planned (written by Rob Ellenberg) * Support for the RT-Preempt realtime kernel (written by Jeff Epler) In addition to the new RT-Preempt support, LinuxCNC 2.7 will run on RTAI and the vanilla Linux kernel just like 2.6 and earlier versions do. We are currently targeting the same set of Linux distributions for 2.7 as we did for 2.6: Ubuntu Lucid, Ubuntu Precise, and Debian Wheezy. The final set of supported distros may change as we get closer to release. This new branch does not mean that 2.6 will go away. I will keep maintaining the 2.6 branch and making releases as needed. Your CNC machines running LinuxCNC 2.6 will stay supported with bug fixes for a good long while still. So, you're asking, how can I help? I'm glad you asked! You can run the 2.7 pre-releases and submit bug reports! There are probably some rough edges and possibly lurking bugs that we'd like your help in finding before we release 2.7.0. You've been warned! The install instructions leave a lot to be desired at the moment, but it goes like this: * Install LinuxCNC 2.6, for example using the instructions here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpdatingTo2.6 * Upgrade to LinuxCNC 2.7 by picking an apt source line from here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpdatingTo2.7 Happy upgrading! Let us know how it works for you. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC Meeting Stuttgart, Germany 2014
On 10/29/2014 04:12 AM, alex chiosso wrote: Hi to all. I've been at the Linuxcnc Meeting in Stuttgart and I've to say that it was a positive experience first of all for the people I met. snip long list of net things That's an impressive array of people and hardware! I wish I could have been there. :-) -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Houston LinuxCNC Fest
I had a great time at TX/RX labs and it was good to meet you. I posted some photos on my personal blog http://emergent.unpythonic.net/01414165219 and I also noticed that txrx put up a blog entry about us https://txrxlabs.org/blog/cborn/linuxcnc-fest/ Jeff -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Problem pncconf in master (patch attached)
Hi, When trying to run pncconf from the recent buildbot debian package it complains about missing python modules. Those modules are missing. They should be under /var/lib/python/pncconf. I guess the changes to pncconf are not yet reflected in the debian control files. I am no debian-package-expert, so I cant propose a patch for that. However, I also found a few critical typos in the pncconf python module. A patch for those is attached. Kind Regards Carsten -- Carsten Presser Geschäftsführer c...@rstenpresser.de Elektronikentwicklung und Vertrieb Frankfurter Strasse 1 66606 St.Wendel Telefon: 06851-1305585 Mobil: 0179-5594690 Internet: http://ca.rstenpresser.de EMail: c...@rstenpresser.de --- private_data.py 2014-10-29 15:41:16.361855079 +0100 +++ /home/awok/linuxcnc-dev/lib/python/pncconf/private_data.py 2014-10-29 01:41:14.270715001 +0100 @@ -60,13 +60,13 @@ if not os.path.isfile(self.WIZARD): self.WIZARD = os.path.join(/etc/linuxcnc/linuxcnc-wizard.gif) if not os.path.isfile(self.WIZARD): -self.WIZARD = os.path.join(/usr/share/linuxcnc/linuxcnc-wizard.gif) +self.LINUXCNCICON = os.path.join(/usr/share/linuxcnc/linuxcnc-wizard.gif) if not os.path.isfile(self.WIZARD): wizdir = os.path.join(os.path.abspath(BIN), ..) self.WIZARD = os.path.join(wizdir, linuxcnc-wizard.gif) self.ICONDIR = os.path.join(os.path.abspath(BIN), ..) -self.LINUXCNCICON = os.path.join(self.ICONDIR, linuxcncicon.png) +self.LINUXCNC = os.path.join(self.ICONDIR, linuxcncicon.png) if not os.path.isfile(self.LINUXCNCICON): self.LINUXCNCICON = os.path.join(/etc/linuxcnc/linuxcnc-wizard.gif) if not os.path.isfile(self.LINUXCNCICON): -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
This subject line caught my eye, but it's a different Mach 3: http://www.nasa.gov/aero/the-warm-glow-of-mach3/#.VFEKydewfiE BTW, if you want to see other NASA e-mail announcements and picture of the week: https://public.govdelivery.com/accounts/USNASA/subscriber/new?preferences=true#tab1 -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
Jeez man that rocket explosion was EPIC!! A shame for all involved I am quit sure there are lots of empty wallets after that disaster. Space exploration and commercialization is not gonna be cheap. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: This subject line caught my eye, but it's a different Mach 3: http://www.nasa.gov/aero/the-warm-glow-of-mach3/#.VFEKydewfiE BTW, if you want to see other NASA e-mail announcements and picture of the week: https://public.govdelivery.com/accounts/USNASA/subscriber/new?preferences=true#tab1 -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
All insured I'm sure, just an astronomical premium increase in the works... --Original Mail-- From: Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:52:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3 Jeez man that rocket explosion was EPIC!! A shame for all involved I am quit sure there are lots of empty wallets after that disaster. Space exploration and commercialization is not gonna be cheap. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: This subject line caught my eye, but it's a different Mach 3: http://www.nasa.gov/aero/the-warm-glow-of-mach3/#.VFEKydewfiE BTW, if you want to see other NASA e-mail announcements and picture of the week: https://public.govdelivery.com/accounts/USNASA/subscriber/new?preferences=true#tab1 -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
I've messed with this a bit and don't have it working yet. Attached is my current hal file hacked together from PNCConf generated bits, bits from docs and manual bits (don't laugh, I'll clean it up once I get everything working). The steps are all set to 0.1 just to ensure that even if the selection isn't selecting the one I think I'd at least get visible motion. Below is the summary of the hardware configuration. The pendant MPG is a basic 100ppr 5V MPG. I've validated it's output with my 'scope (haven't got the hang of halscope yet). It is wired with A and B outputs connected to the MESA 7i76 GPIO #16 and #17. The pendant has two 4 pos rotary switches as follows: Axis select 1 - Off - n.c. 2 - X - MESA 7i76 GPIO #20 3 - Z - MESA 7i76 GPIO #21 4 - Aux - MESA 7i76 GPIO #22 Step select 1 - 0.1 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #24 2 - 0.01 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #25 3 - 0.001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #26 4 - 0.0001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #27 Using halcmd show I've validated the switch inputs are working properly. Any idea what may be wrong? --Original Mail-- From: p...@wpnet.us To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:16:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:03:16 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 ... There's a brief mention on page 18 in the mode options That is indeed brief. Well, I've got a direction now and a bunch of docs to read through and try to mesh. Hopefully I'll have it working this evening :) -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Error on startup Lcnc
On 10/29/2014 02:56 AM, Tomaz T. wrote: I found out that it was entirely hardware problem, because after moving parallel pci card to the other pci slot, it finally started to work. Hmmm, very strange! Well, glad you got it to work! Jon -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
What kind of lathe are you converting out of curiosity? I just bought a CNC lathe to retrofit and I plan to use mesa cards again. Good luck with your build. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:33 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: I've messed with this a bit and don't have it working yet. Attached is my current hal file hacked together from PNCConf generated bits, bits from docs and manual bits (don't laugh, I'll clean it up once I get everything working). The steps are all set to 0.1 just to ensure that even if the selection isn't selecting the one I think I'd at least get visible motion. Below is the summary of the hardware configuration. The pendant MPG is a basic 100ppr 5V MPG. I've validated it's output with my 'scope (haven't got the hang of halscope yet). It is wired with A and B outputs connected to the MESA 7i76 GPIO #16 and #17. The pendant has two 4 pos rotary switches as follows: Axis select 1 - Off - n.c. 2 - X - MESA 7i76 GPIO #20 3 - Z - MESA 7i76 GPIO #21 4 - Aux - MESA 7i76 GPIO #22 Step select 1 - 0.1 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #24 2 - 0.01 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #25 3 - 0.001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #26 4 - 0.0001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #27 Using halcmd show I've validated the switch inputs are working properly. Any idea what may be wrong? --Original Mail-- From: p...@wpnet.us To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:16:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:03:16 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 ... There's a brief mention on page 18 in the mode options That is indeed brief. Well, I've got a direction now and a bunch of docs to read through and try to mesh. Hopefully I'll have it working this evening :) -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
It's a Harrison Trainer manual/CNC 280. It previously had a conversion from it's original dead controls to Microkinetics stuff and now I'm going to LinuxCNC with the MESA 5i25/7i76 set, retaining the MK stepper drives since they're fine. I'm doing it as a strictly CNC conversion since I have other manual lathes. I installed a new Hitachi VFD to drive the spindle which is working nicely. --Original Mail-- From: Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 What kind of lathe are you converting out of curiosity? I just bought a CNC lathe to retrofit and I plan to use mesa cards again. Good luck with your build. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:33 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: I've messed with this a bit and don't have it working yet. Attached is my current hal file hacked together from PNCConf generated bits, bits from docs and manual bits (don't laugh, I'll clean it up once I get everything working). The steps are all set to 0.1 just to ensure that even if the selection isn't selecting the one I think I'd at least get visible motion. Below is the summary of the hardware configuration. The pendant MPG is a basic 100ppr 5V MPG. I've validated it's output with my 'scope (haven't got the hang of halscope yet). It is wired with A and B outputs connected to the MESA 7i76 GPIO #16 and #17. The pendant has two 4 pos rotary switches as follows: Axis select 1 - Off - n.c. 2 - X - MESA 7i76 GPIO #20 3 - Z - MESA 7i76 GPIO #21 4 - Aux - MESA 7i76 GPIO #22 Step select 1 - 0.1 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #24 2 - 0.01 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #25 3 - 0.001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #26 4 - 0.0001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #27 Using halcmd show I've validated the switch inputs are working properly. Any idea what may be wrong? --Original Mail-- From: p...@wpnet.us To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:16:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:03:16 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 ... There's a brief mention on page 18 in the mode options That is indeed brief. Well, I've got a direction now and a bunch of docs to read through and try to mesh. Hopefully I'll have it working this evening :) -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Houston LinuxCNC Fest
On 10/29/2014 09:28 AM, Jeff Epler wrote: I had a great time at TX/RX labs and it was good to meet you. I posted some photos on my personal blog http://emergent.unpythonic.net/01414165219 and I also noticed that txrx put up a blog entry about us https://txrxlabs.org/blog/cborn/linuxcnc-fest/ There is a picture labeled Beagle Bone Black with BeBoPr board, it is actually a CRAMPS board. Otherwise, thanks for the photos, they look good to me! Jon -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Hey thats awesome... I just looked it up and it is actually very similar to my machine. I just bought a used HH Roberts Standard Modern 14x40 CNC lathe. Did your machine come with stepper motors? Mine came with DC brushless servos and resolvers but I am thinking I will swap motors and drivers to brand new stuff here instead of screwing with the old stuff. What HP is your spindle motor I need one of those too. Nice to meetcha! Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:42 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: It's a Harrison Trainer manual/CNC 280. It previously had a conversion from it's original dead controls to Microkinetics stuff and now I'm going to LinuxCNC with the MESA 5i25/7i76 set, retaining the MK stepper drives since they're fine. I'm doing it as a strictly CNC conversion since I have other manual lathes. I installed a new Hitachi VFD to drive the spindle which is working nicely. --Original Mail-- From: Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 What kind of lathe are you converting out of curiosity? I just bought a CNC lathe to retrofit and I plan to use mesa cards again. Good luck with your build. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:33 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: I've messed with this a bit and don't have it working yet. Attached is my current hal file hacked together from PNCConf generated bits, bits from docs and manual bits (don't laugh, I'll clean it up once I get everything working). The steps are all set to 0.1 just to ensure that even if the selection isn't selecting the one I think I'd at least get visible motion. Below is the summary of the hardware configuration. The pendant MPG is a basic 100ppr 5V MPG. I've validated it's output with my 'scope (haven't got the hang of halscope yet). It is wired with A and B outputs connected to the MESA 7i76 GPIO #16 and #17. The pendant has two 4 pos rotary switches as follows: Axis select 1 - Off - n.c. 2 - X - MESA 7i76 GPIO #20 3 - Z - MESA 7i76 GPIO #21 4 - Aux - MESA 7i76 GPIO #22 Step select 1 - 0.1 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #24 2 - 0.01 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #25 3 - 0.001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #26 4 - 0.0001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #27 Using halcmd show I've validated the switch inputs are working properly. Any idea what may be wrong? --Original Mail-- From: p...@wpnet.us To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:16:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:03:16 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 ... There's a brief mention on page 18 in the mode options That is indeed brief. Well, I've got a direction now and a bunch of docs to read through and try to mesh. Hopefully I'll have it working this evening :) -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Numeric entry with touchscreen and Glade
On 29 October 2014 09:00, David Armstrong cncbas...@gmail.com wrote: Andy have you a 5i20 ? No, I have a 5i23 and a 6i25 (and a 7i80HD). Which means I can't trivially try out the config. i'm trying to add in the orient ( m19 ) can you see where i should link it in , i have a feeling i totaly lost the plot That's a lot of HAL files you have there. Which INI file are you currently using? At the moment motion.spindle-orient doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and the spindle position pid has commented-out feedback. I should point out that I don't actually have orient configured on my spindle, there isn't really much need. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Error on startup Lcnc
On 10/29/2014 09:36 AM, Jon Elson wrote: On 10/29/2014 02:56 AM, Tomaz T. wrote: I found out that it was entirely hardware problem, because after moving parallel pci card to the other pci slot, it finally started to work. Hmmm, very strange! Well, glad you got it to work! Jon I think changing slots changes where PCI assigns where the card's base and extended address space? -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
It has the original steppers and the much newer Microkinetics drivers. The spindle motor is ~1.5HP I believe, I have it on a 2HP Hitachi VFD. Did you mean your machine has DC brush type servos with resolvers (old)? If it has brushless AC servos (newer) it wouldn't have resolvers. In either case I'd stick with the original servos and drives if they are functional since they are probably well matched to the machine. If it has old resolvers I'd just replace those with some new inexpensive encoders. The MESA 5i25/7i77 servo card combo would probably work well, I have that card set waiting for a conversion on my much larger CNC mill after I'm done with the lathe. The mill has a Dynapath control currently that works fine, but has small memory so I just drip feed it serial from a PC currently. --Original Mail-- From: Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:47:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Hey thats awesome... I just looked it up and it is actually very similar to my machine. I just bought a used HH Roberts Standard Modern 14x40 CNC lathe. Did your machine come with stepper motors? Mine came with DC brushless servos and resolvers but I am thinking I will swap motors and drivers to brand new stuff here instead of screwing with the old stuff. What HP is your spindle motor I need one of those too. Nice to meetcha! Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:42 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: It's a Harrison Trainer manual/CNC 280. It previously had a conversion from it's original dead controls to Microkinetics stuff and now I'm going to LinuxCNC with the MESA 5i25/7i76 set, retaining the MK stepper drives since they're fine. I'm doing it as a strictly CNC conversion since I have other manual lathes. I installed a new Hitachi VFD to drive the spindle which is working nicely. --Original Mail-- From: Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 What kind of lathe are you converting out of curiosity? I just bought a CNC lathe to retrofit and I plan to use mesa cards again. Good luck with your build. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:33 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: I've messed with this a bit and don't have it working yet. Attached is my current hal file hacked together from PNCConf generated bits, bits from docs and manual bits (don't laugh, I'll clean it up once I get everything working). The steps are all set to 0.1 just to ensure that even if the selection isn't selecting the one I think I'd at least get visible motion. Below is the summary of the hardware configuration. The pendant MPG is a basic 100ppr 5V MPG. I've validated it's output with my 'scope (haven't got the hang of halscope yet). It is wired with A and B outputs connected to the MESA 7i76 GPIO #16 and #17. The pendant has two 4 pos rotary switches as follows: Axis select 1 - Off - n.c. 2 - X - MESA 7i76 GPIO #20 3 - Z - MESA 7i76 GPIO #21 4 - Aux - MESA 7i76 GPIO #22 Step select 1 - 0.1 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #24 2 - 0.01 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #25 3 - 0.001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #26 4 - 0.0001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #27 Using halcmd show I've validated the switch inputs are working properly. Any idea what may be wrong? --Original Mail-- From: p...@wpnet.us To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:16:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:03:16 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 ... There's a brief mention on page 18 in the mode options That is indeed brief. Well, I've got a direction now and a bunch of docs to read through and try to mesh. Hopefully I'll have it working this evening :) -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On 29 October 2014 16:47, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: Mine came with DC brushless servos and resolvers My next lathe conversion is very likely to be using brushless DC servos and resolvers. I like resolvers. They have super-high precision and are very tolerant of interference, contamination, heat etc. You can probably slot a Mesa 7i49 and 5i23 straight in (the 5i24 is probably an option too, but I _know_ that there is a 5i23 firmware for the 5i23 because that is what my mill uses. Pico also do a Resolver converter, but that uses quadrature as an intermediate stage and the reason I like resolvers is that I don't trust quadrature. http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/productpath=83_86product_id=101 -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Yeah no actually they are indeed brushed DC servos with encoders. I might actually keep them but I am missing the Z motor so might as well get both new. The machine I bought gutted of the original control and motor. I did use the 5i25/7i77 combo on my Cincinatti Arrow 500 VMC retrofit. Excellent stuff. I will use the 5i25/7i77 combo I have as well for the new lathe. My machine came with a 7.5 HP motor apparently but it was an option base motor was 5hp. I am not sure which size motor I will get but it will probably depend on what kind of deal I can get on it. Gonna run a Hitachi WJ200 VFD like I did on the Cincinatti most likely. Cannot wait to see this monster make some swarf. Right now I am stripping and repainting a good bit of the sheetmetal as some jackhole mopped some cheap paint on it with a brush. Aah well if it was beautiful I probably would have paid a bunch more for it I guess LOL Good luck with your build. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: It has the original steppers and the much newer Microkinetics drivers. The spindle motor is ~1.5HP I believe, I have it on a 2HP Hitachi VFD. Did you mean your machine has DC brush type servos with resolvers (old)? If it has brushless AC servos (newer) it wouldn't have resolvers. In either case I'd stick with the original servos and drives if they are functional since they are probably well matched to the machine. If it has old resolvers I'd just replace those with some new inexpensive encoders. The MESA 5i25/7i77 servo card combo would probably work well, I have that card set waiting for a conversion on my much larger CNC mill after I'm done with the lathe. The mill has a Dynapath control currently that works fine, but has small memory so I just drip feed it serial from a PC currently. --Original Mail-- From: Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:47:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Hey thats awesome... I just looked it up and it is actually very similar to my machine. I just bought a used HH Roberts Standard Modern 14x40 CNC lathe. Did your machine come with stepper motors? Mine came with DC brushless servos and resolvers but I am thinking I will swap motors and drivers to brand new stuff here instead of screwing with the old stuff. What HP is your spindle motor I need one of those too. Nice to meetcha! Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:42 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: It's a Harrison Trainer manual/CNC 280. It previously had a conversion from it's original dead controls to Microkinetics stuff and now I'm going to LinuxCNC with the MESA 5i25/7i76 set, retaining the MK stepper drives since they're fine. I'm doing it as a strictly CNC conversion since I have other manual lathes. I installed a new Hitachi VFD to drive the spindle which is working nicely. --Original Mail-- From: Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:37:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 What kind of lathe are you converting out of curiosity? I just bought a CNC lathe to retrofit and I plan to use mesa cards again. Good luck with your build. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:33 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: I've messed with this a bit and don't have it working yet. Attached is my current hal file hacked together from PNCConf generated bits, bits from docs and manual bits (don't laugh, I'll clean it up once I get everything working). The steps are all set to 0.1 just to ensure that even if the selection isn't selecting the one I think I'd at least get visible motion. Below is the summary of the hardware configuration. The pendant MPG is a basic 100ppr 5V MPG. I've validated it's output with my 'scope (haven't got the hang of halscope yet). It is wired with A and B outputs connected to the MESA 7i76 GPIO #16 and #17. The pendant has two 4 pos rotary switches as follows: Axis select 1 - Off - n.c. 2 - X - MESA 7i76 GPIO #20 3 - Z - MESA 7i76 GPIO #21 4 - Aux - MESA 7i76 GPIO #22 Step select 1 - 0.1 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #24 2 - 0.01 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #25 3 - 0.001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #26 4 - 0.0001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #27 Using halcmd show I've validated the switch inputs are working properly. Any idea what may be wrong? --Original Mail-- From: p...@wpnet.us To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:16:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:03:16 -0700 PDT
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:33:42 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 I've messed with this a bit and don't have it working yet. Attached is my current hal file hacked together from PNCConf generated bits, bits from docs and manual bits (don't laugh, I'll clean it up once I get everything working). The steps are all set to 0.1 just to ensure that even if the selection isn't selecting the one I think I'd at least get visible motion. Below is the summary of the hardware configuration. The pendant MPG is a basic 100ppr 5V MPG. I've validated it's output with my 'scope (haven't got the hang of halscope yet). It is wired with A and B outputs connected to the MESA 7i76 GPIO #16 and #17. The pendant has two 4 pos rotary switches as follows: Axis select 1 - Off - n.c. 2 - X - MESA 7i76 GPIO #20 3 - Z - MESA 7i76 GPIO #21 4 - Aux - MESA 7i76 GPIO #22 Step select 1 - 0.1 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #24 2 - 0.01 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #25 3 - 0.001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #26 4 - 0.0001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #27 Using halcmd show I've validated the switch inputs are working properly. Any idea what may be wrong? Can you post your hal and ini files to a public place (like pastebin.com)? -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Andy, Like I said I would think about using the original motors if I actually had both of them. I only have the X motor here now so I wanted to have matched motors and drives for both axes. Still have a lot of cleaning and scrubbing and rewiring to do before I really have to worry about that so not in a huge hurry hell I may change my mind. Brushless DC motors with resolvers are not cheap on ebay tho. I could buy a complete motor and driver brand new for what I would pay for a used one like I have on the X. The machine has a heavy 1-1 belt drive on both axes so I could actually run about any motor I want on it even a big stepper would work actually but I want to try to go with an AC servo if possible. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2014 16:47, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: Mine came with DC brushless servos and resolvers My next lathe conversion is very likely to be using brushless DC servos and resolvers. I like resolvers. They have super-high precision and are very tolerant of interference, contamination, heat etc. You can probably slot a Mesa 7i49 and 5i23 straight in (the 5i24 is probably an option too, but I _know_ that there is a 5i23 firmware for the 5i23 because that is what my mill uses. Pico also do a Resolver converter, but that uses quadrature as an intermediate stage and the reason I like resolvers is that I don't trust quadrature. http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/productpath=83_86product_id=101 -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Pete Matos wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:05:35 -0400 From: Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Andy, Like I said I would think about using the original motors if I actually had both of them. I only have the X motor here now so I wanted to have matched motors and drives for both axes. Still have a lot of cleaning and scrubbing and rewiring to do before I really have to worry about that so not in a huge hurry hell I may change my mind. Brushless DC motors with resolvers are not cheap on ebay tho. I could buy a complete motor and driver brand new for what I would pay for a used one like I have on the X. The machine has a heavy 1-1 belt drive on both axes so I could actually run about any motor I want on it even a big stepper would work actually but I want to try to go with an AC servo if possible. Peace Pete You have AC servos (well one at least) On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:59 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2014 16:47, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: Mine came with DC brushless servos and resolvers My next lathe conversion is very likely to be using brushless DC servos and resolvers. I like resolvers. They have super-high precision and are very tolerant of interference, contamination, heat etc. You can probably slot a Mesa 7i49 and 5i23 straight in (the 5i24 is probably an option too, but I _know_ that there is a 5i23 firmware for the 5i23 because that is what my mill uses. Pico also do a Resolver converter, but that uses quadrature as an intermediate stage and the reason I like resolvers is that I don't trust quadrature. http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/productpath=83_86product_id=101 -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On 29 October 2014 17:05, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: Brushless DC motors with resolvers are not cheap on ebay tho. No, because they are very good :-) My comments were based on the assumption that you already had expensive motors and were looking to junk them. That would be silly. If you don't have the motors, then super-expensive ones would be a silly thing to fit. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Andy, Honestly man I have no idea. As I said there ARE NO DRIVES LOL.. It is gutted. I only have a single X axis motor and some wiring in this beast. The rest was sacrificed to the parts gods on ebay by the previous owner I guess. I posted the information on the motor I got from an engineer at Parker yesterday on the IRC. He said it was a servomotor, I asked him if it was a DC servomotor and he just answered it's a servomotor whatever that means. I have some information on it but as I said I wanted to have matched motors and drives on both axes so if I needed to buy another one of these same motors it would probably cost a fortune. I think my best bet is to probably sell this X motor and buy two motor and drive combos like I did on the CIncinatti build. That has turned out to be a good decision for me and it made things a helluva lot simpler. I like simple. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:08 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2014 16:55, p...@wpnet.us wrote: If it has old resolvers I'd just replace those with some new inexpensive encoders I would suggest that that would be a downgrade. Buying resolvers new would be needlessly extravagant, they cost a fortune, but if you already have them then they are superior to encoders. In this case the existing drives probably use the resolvers for commutation too. (which might be a problem, as the Mesa Resolver card expects to be providing the excitation. However the drive quite possibly won't notice if the excitation is swapped to the LinuxCNC interface hardware.). Pete: Do you know if the drives use Hall sensors for commutation, use the resolvers for commutation, and pass-through the sine/cosine, or use the resolver and pass out synthetic encoder pulses? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Pete I will take your word on it you are the guru here. I honestly don't know. Would you recommend keeping it and trying to get a drive to fit it, I would need to find another similar motor on ebay. Besides I am starting to hijack this poor guys thread here. I am open to whatever will be the best for the machine in the end and what is easiest for me to get running. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, Honestly man I have no idea. As I said there ARE NO DRIVES LOL.. It is gutted. I only have a single X axis motor and some wiring in this beast. The rest was sacrificed to the parts gods on ebay by the previous owner I guess. I posted the information on the motor I got from an engineer at Parker yesterday on the IRC. He said it was a servomotor, I asked him if it was a DC servomotor and he just answered it's a servomotor whatever that means. I have some information on it but as I said I wanted to have matched motors and drives on both axes so if I needed to buy another one of these same motors it would probably cost a fortune. I think my best bet is to probably sell this X motor and buy two motor and drive combos like I did on the CIncinatti build. That has turned out to be a good decision for me and it made things a helluva lot simpler. I like simple. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:08 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2014 16:55, p...@wpnet.us wrote: If it has old resolvers I'd just replace those with some new inexpensive encoders I would suggest that that would be a downgrade. Buying resolvers new would be needlessly extravagant, they cost a fortune, but if you already have them then they are superior to encoders. In this case the existing drives probably use the resolvers for commutation too. (which might be a problem, as the Mesa Resolver card expects to be providing the excitation. However the drive quite possibly won't notice if the excitation is swapped to the LinuxCNC interface hardware.). Pete: Do you know if the drives use Hall sensors for commutation, use the resolvers for commutation, and pass-through the sine/cosine, or use the resolver and pass out synthetic encoder pulses? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Pete Matos wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:18:49 -0400 From: Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Pete I will take your word on it you are the guru here. I honestly don't know. Would you recommend keeping it and trying to get a drive to fit it, I would need to find another similar motor on ebay. Besides I am starting to hijack this poor guys thread here. I am open to whatever will be the best for the machine in the end and what is easiest for me to get running. Peace Pete If you had the original drives and motors I would use them. even if you just had both motors it might have been worth finding drives, but with just one oddball motor, probably better to start from scratch On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, Honestly man I have no idea. As I said there ARE NO DRIVES LOL.. It is gutted. I only have a single X axis motor and some wiring in this beast. The rest was sacrificed to the parts gods on ebay by the previous owner I guess. I posted the information on the motor I got from an engineer at Parker yesterday on the IRC. He said it was a servomotor, I asked him if it was a DC servomotor and he just answered it's a servomotor whatever that means. I have some information on it but as I said I wanted to have matched motors and drives on both axes so if I needed to buy another one of these same motors it would probably cost a fortune. I think my best bet is to probably sell this X motor and buy two motor and drive combos like I did on the CIncinatti build. That has turned out to be a good decision for me and it made things a helluva lot simpler. I like simple. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:08 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2014 16:55, p...@wpnet.us wrote: If it has old resolvers I'd just replace those with some new inexpensive encoders I would suggest that that would be a downgrade. Buying resolvers new would be needlessly extravagant, they cost a fortune, but if you already have them then they are superior to encoders. In this case the existing drives probably use the resolvers for commutation too. (which might be a problem, as the Mesa Resolver card expects to be providing the excitation. However the drive quite possibly won't notice if the excitation is swapped to the LinuxCNC interface hardware.). Pete: Do you know if the drives use Hall sensors for commutation, use the resolvers for commutation, and pass-through the sine/cosine, or use the resolver and pass out synthetic encoder pulses? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.ini http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.hal --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:04:36 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:33:42 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 I've messed with this a bit and don't have it working yet. Attached is my current hal file hacked together from PNCConf generated bits, bits from docs and manual bits (don't laugh, I'll clean it up once I get everything working). The steps are all set to 0.1 just to ensure that even if the selection isn't selecting the one I think I'd at least get visible motion. Below is the summary of the hardware configuration. The pendant MPG is a basic 100ppr 5V MPG. I've validated it's output with my 'scope (haven't got the hang of halscope yet). It is wired with A and B outputs connected to the MESA 7i76 GPIO #16 and #17. The pendant has two 4 pos rotary switches as follows: Axis select 1 - Off - n.c. 2 - X - MESA 7i76 GPIO #20 3 - Z - MESA 7i76 GPIO #21 4 - Aux - MESA 7i76 GPIO #22 Step select 1 - 0.1 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #24 2 - 0.01 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #25 3 - 0.001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #26 4 - 0.0001 - MESA 7i76 GPIO #27 Using halcmd show I've validated the switch inputs are working properly. Any idea what may be wrong? Can you post your hal and ini files to a public place (like pastebin.com)? -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Okay that is what I was thinking. Appreciate your advice. I am going to pop it on ebay and try to sell it for whatever I can get for it and use that towards the new motors and drives. I also have some other stuff here from both builds I don't need I will try to sell. Still have a lot of scrubbing and painting to do on it. It is starting to look like a lathe again LOL Thanks Pete and Andy. Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Pete Matos wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:18:49 -0400 From: Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Pete I will take your word on it you are the guru here. I honestly don't know. Would you recommend keeping it and trying to get a drive to fit it, I would need to find another similar motor on ebay. Besides I am starting to hijack this poor guys thread here. I am open to whatever will be the best for the machine in the end and what is easiest for me to get running. Peace Pete If you had the original drives and motors I would use them. even if you just had both motors it might have been worth finding drives, but with just one oddball motor, probably better to start from scratch On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, Honestly man I have no idea. As I said there ARE NO DRIVES LOL.. It is gutted. I only have a single X axis motor and some wiring in this beast. The rest was sacrificed to the parts gods on ebay by the previous owner I guess. I posted the information on the motor I got from an engineer at Parker yesterday on the IRC. He said it was a servomotor, I asked him if it was a DC servomotor and he just answered it's a servomotor whatever that means. I have some information on it but as I said I wanted to have matched motors and drives on both axes so if I needed to buy another one of these same motors it would probably cost a fortune. I think my best bet is to probably sell this X motor and buy two motor and drive combos like I did on the CIncinatti build. That has turned out to be a good decision for me and it made things a helluva lot simpler. I like simple. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:08 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2014 16:55, p...@wpnet.us wrote: If it has old resolvers I'd just replace those with some new inexpensive encoders I would suggest that that would be a downgrade. Buying resolvers new would be needlessly extravagant, they cost a fortune, but if you already have them then they are superior to encoders. In this case the existing drives probably use the resolvers for commutation too. (which might be a problem, as the Mesa Resolver card expects to be providing the excitation. However the drive quite possibly won't notice if the excitation is swapped to the LinuxCNC interface hardware.). Pete: Do you know if the drives use Hall sensors for commutation, use the resolvers for commutation, and pass-through the sine/cosine, or use the resolver and pass out synthetic encoder pulses? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Even more confusing for the thread is we are both Petes :) --Original Mail-- From: Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:18:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Pete I will take your word on it you are the guru here. I honestly don't know. Would you recommend keeping it and trying to get a drive to fit it, I would need to find another similar motor on ebay. Besides I am starting to hijack this poor guys thread here. I am open to whatever will be the best for the machine in the end and what is easiest for me to get running. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Pete Matos petefro...@gmail.com wrote: Andy, Honestly man I have no idea. As I said there ARE NO DRIVES LOL.. It is gutted. I only have a single X axis motor and some wiring in this beast. The rest was sacrificed to the parts gods on ebay by the previous owner I guess. I posted the information on the motor I got from an engineer at Parker yesterday on the IRC. He said it was a servomotor, I asked him if it was a DC servomotor and he just answered it's a servomotor whatever that means. I have some information on it but as I said I wanted to have matched motors and drives on both axes so if I needed to buy another one of these same motors it would probably cost a fortune. I think my best bet is to probably sell this X motor and buy two motor and drive combos like I did on the CIncinatti build. That has turned out to be a good decision for me and it made things a helluva lot simpler. I like simple. Peace Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:08 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2014 16:55, p...@wpnet.us wrote: If it has old resolvers I'd just replace those with some new inexpensive encoders I would suggest that that would be a downgrade. Buying resolvers new would be needlessly extravagant, they cost a fortune, but if you already have them then they are superior to encoders. In this case the existing drives probably use the resolvers for commutation too. (which might be a problem, as the Mesa Resolver card expects to be providing the excitation. However the drive quite possibly won't notice if the excitation is swapped to the LinuxCNC interface hardware.). Pete: Do you know if the drives use Hall sensors for commutation, use the resolvers for commutation, and pass-through the sine/cosine, or use the resolver and pass out synthetic encoder pulses? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Umm.. I thought the X was brushless and had a resolver on it even though it? On 10/29/2014 01:02 PM, Pete Matos wrote: Yeah no actually they are indeed brushed DC servos with encoders. I might Pete -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:29:53 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.ini http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.hal The problem I see is the the mpg is connected to the spindle encoder on P2 (channel 1) not the mpg encoder on the 7i76 field I/O Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
I think the term brushless was inadvertently use initially. I can't debate the merits of resolvers vs. encoders, but is anyone building new machines using resolvers these days? In my mind at least if it has resolvers it's older and unlikely to have brushless motors. --Original Mail-- From: Billy Huddleston bi...@ivdc.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:36:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Umm.. I thought the X was brushless and had a resolver on it even though it? On 10/29/2014 01:02 PM, Pete Matos wrote: Yeah no actually they are indeed brushed DC servos with encoders. I might Pete -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Numeric entry with touchscreen and Glade
Arh ok Andy thought you may have a 5i20 ( dont know what made me think you had ) sorry i'm trying to be able to configure for 2 pwmgen scales and switch a relay operated gearbox only 1 speed change i'm using mylinuxcnc.hal .. and following or trying to the comments you made here http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/39-pncconf/28432-lathe-spindle-control-help-needed-in-pncconf?start=20 iv'e made some changes so here's the hal file , just see if it makes sense for the scaling and spindle or if you can follow it updated hal file in the next post Andy , need to swap pc's On 29 October 2014 16:50, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2014 09:00, David Armstrong cncbas...@gmail.com wrote: Andy have you a 5i20 ? No, I have a 5i23 and a 6i25 (and a 7i80HD). Which means I can't trivially try out the config. i'm trying to add in the orient ( m19 ) can you see where i should link it in , i have a feeling i totaly lost the plot That's a lot of HAL files you have there. Which INI file are you currently using? At the moment motion.spindle-orient doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and the spindle position pid has commented-out feedback. I should point out that I don't actually have orient configured on my spindle, there isn't really much need. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Inverting lathe X axis arrow key
Thanks for the help Guys! The link that Andy provided worked like a charm, and the supplemental information was very informative as well. Ian - Original Message - From: Comcast icp...@comcast.net To: LinuxCNC emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:23:28 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Inverting lathe X axis arrow key Hi Guys, I am tuning the axes on my rear-mounted turret lathe and am having problems with the X axis. In the current state, pressing 'up arrow' on the keyboard moves the turret forward (towards me) instead of back. The diameter readout increases as it should and any MDI motion commands in the X positive direction result in a correct move of the turret towards the back/away from me. If the lathe were a front-mounted post type, everything would be perfect, but since it's a rear-mounted post type the arrow is backwards. I'd like to be able to press the up arrow key and have the turret move away from me without affecting any of the other things that are working correctly. Anyone have a solution? Thanks, Ian Sent from my iPhone -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
No actually that was a typo. It is a brushless motor with resolver. I thought it was DC servo but apparently I was mistaken according to Pete...the other Pete.the one who knows what the hell he is talking about hehe Pete On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:45 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: I think the term brushless was inadvertently use initially. I can't debate the merits of resolvers vs. encoders, but is anyone building new machines using resolvers these days? In my mind at least if it has resolvers it's older and unlikely to have brushless motors. --Original Mail-- From: Billy Huddleston bi...@ivdc.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:36:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Umm.. I thought the X was brushless and had a resolver on it even though it? On 10/29/2014 01:02 PM, Pete Matos wrote: Yeah no actually they are indeed brushed DC servos with encoders. I might Pete -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Pete Matos A and N Precision and Fabrication Maryville, Tennessee 865-236-8996 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:45:20 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 I think the term brushless was inadvertently use initially. I can't debate the merits of resolvers vs. encoders, but is anyone building new machines using resolvers these days? In my mind at least if it has resolvers it's older and unlikely to have brushless motors. Resolvers are often used with brushless motors as they provide commutation information. Resolvers are less used nowadays that high resolution serial absolute encoders are available, but still the sensor of choice when ruggedness or wide temperture range is important. --Original Mail-- From: Billy Huddleston bi...@ivdc.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:36:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Umm.. I thought the X was brushless and had a resolver on it even though it? On 10/29/2014 01:02 PM, Pete Matos wrote: Yeah no actually they are indeed brushed DC servos with encoders. I might Pete -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the hardware high speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01. is not the low speed encoder? I've been looking through all the HostMot2 docs I can find including the section on encoders and it's not very clear to me. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_encoder The PNCConf seems to think hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the high speed spindle encoder input, so i presumed that when set to mode2 the low speed encoder inputs GPIO 16..19 would occupy the next two encoder instances. The only reference to the low speed encoder inputs I've found is the sentence or two on pg.18 of the 7i76man.pdf you pointed out. Surely there is a more detailed explanation of this somewhere? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:43:46 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:29:53 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.ini http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.hal The problem I see is the the mpg is connected to the spindle encoder on P2 (channel 1) not the mpg encoder on the 7i76 field I/O Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:57:50 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the hardware high speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01. is not the low speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01 is the spindle encoder for the second 7I76 (assuming you are using a 7i76x2 config) hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0 is the first MPG encoder (it may have a different name in master) best thing for checking is to list all the pins with halcmd show pins pinlist.txt when linuxcnc is running I've been looking through all the HostMot2 docs I can find including the section on encoders and it's not very clear to me. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_encoder The PNCConf seems to think hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the high speed spindle encoder input, so i presumed that when set to mode2 the low speed encoder inputs GPIO 16..19 would occupy the next two encoder instances. The only reference to the low speed encoder inputs I've found is the sentence or two on pg.18 of the 7i76man.pdf you pointed out. Surely there is a more detailed explanation of this somewhere? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:43:46 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:29:53 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.ini http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.hal The problem I see is the the mpg is connected to the spindle encoder on P2 (channel 1) not the mpg encoder on the 7i76 field I/O Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Houston LinuxCNC Fest
I had a great time in Houston at TX/RX labs as well. Thanks to Chris and Roland for hosting and breakfast on Sunday! Also, thanks to the LinuxCNC gurus for helping me work through some simple stuff:-) Really appreciate it. I posted some pics of the Houston fest at TX/RX as well: https://plus.google.com/114303576325717690129/posts/GHGRPmUwKt6 My phone's camera doesn't operate so well in the low light, but you get an idea of the masterminds at work:-) Thanks again, Mark Johnsen On 10/29/2014 09:28 AM, Jeff Epler wrote: I had a great time at TX/RX labs and it was good to meet you. I posted some photos on my personal blog http://emergent.unpythonic.net/01414165219 and I also noticed that txrx put up a blog entry about us https://txrxlabs.org/blog/cborn/linuxcnc-fest/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Houston LinuxCNC Fest
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:42:26AM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: There is a picture labeled Beagle Bone Black with BeBoPr board, it is actually a CRAMPS board. Updated, thanks. Jeff -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On 29 October 2014 17:57, p...@wpnet.us wrote: The PNCConf seems to think hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the high speed spindle encoder input Yes, that's an encode on the 5i25. The MPG encoder are on the 7i76 and the 7i76 is on the 5i25 and this gives them names like hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0 To confuse things, there are wires from terminals on the 7i76 straight through to the 5i25 high-speed encoder(s), but that encoder counter is running in the 5i25 FPGA whereas the MPG encoders run in the 7i76 processor. It is probably instructive to do the pinlist thing that PCW suggested with a bare 5i25, then with a 7i76 connected, then with the 7i76 in the alternative modes. In fact... Here is the result of that exercise with my (early) 7i76. I don't seem to have the encoders: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Lm0TgQjazw5ocQ1OijY8rmtWeqbZO6u-cyj38sCOS5k/edit?usp=sharing -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Ok, I verified the pin and changed the line in the HAL to: net mpg_count hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count = axis.0.jog-counts axis.2.jog-counts axis.1.jog-counts With halcmd I can show hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count and see it go to 1 briefly when spinning the MPG, so it looks like the signal is getting in ok but I'm still not getting any axis movement. --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:13:06 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:57:50 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the hardware high speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01. is not the low speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01 is the spindle encoder for the second 7I76 (assuming you are using a 7i76x2 config) hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0 is the first MPG encoder (it may have a different name in master) best thing for checking is to list all the pins with halcmd show pins pinlist.txt when linuxcnc is running I've been looking through all the HostMot2 docs I can find including the section on encoders and it's not very clear to me. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_encoder The PNCConf seems to think hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the high speed spindle encoder input, so i presumed that when set to mode2 the low speed encoder inputs GPIO 16..19 would occupy the next two encoder instances. The only reference to the low speed encoder inputs I've found is the sentence or two on pg.18 of the 7i76man.pdf you pointed out. Surely there is a more detailed explanation of this somewhere? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:43:46 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:29:53 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.ini http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.hal The problem I see is the the mpg is connected to the spindle encoder on P2 (channel 1) not the mpg encoder on the 7i76 field I/O Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On 29 October 2014 19:04, p...@wpnet.us wrote: With halcmd I can show hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count and see it go to 1 briefly when spinning the MPG, so it looks like the signal is getting in ok but I'm still not getting any axis movement. It should go higher than 1. If it goes 1 0 1 0 1 0 then that seems to suggest that only one channel is correctly connected. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:04:00 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Ok, I verified the pin and changed the line in the HAL to: net mpg_count hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count = axis.0.jog-counts axis.2.jog-counts axis.1.jog-counts With halcmd I can show hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count and see it go to 1 briefly when spinning the MPG, so it looks like the signal is getting in ok but I'm still not getting any axis movement. if it does not count beyond 0,1 that indicates that either A or B is not being seen (either a wiring or level issue) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:13:06 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:57:50 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the hardware high speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01. is not the low speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01 is the spindle encoder for the second 7I76 (assuming you are using a 7i76x2 config) hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0 is the first MPG encoder (it may have a different name in master) best thing for checking is to list all the pins with halcmd show pins pinlist.txt when linuxcnc is running I've been looking through all the HostMot2 docs I can find including the section on encoders and it's not very clear to me. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_encoder The PNCConf seems to think hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the high speed spindle encoder input, so i presumed that when set to mode2 the low speed encoder inputs GPIO 16..19 would occupy the next two encoder instances. The only reference to the low speed encoder inputs I've found is the sentence or two on pg.18 of the 7i76man.pdf you pointed out. Surely there is a more detailed explanation of this somewhere? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:43:46 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:29:53 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.ini http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.hal The problem I see is the the mpg is connected to the spindle encoder on P2 (channel 1) not the mpg encoder on the 7i76 field I/O Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Both show good in the Tek 'scope with the probes clipped onto the little bit of wire accessible from the screw terminals on the 7i76. Hard to imagine the wire clamped in the screw terminal but not making contact. With LinuxCNC running doesn't it reset that count with each read so it only will show the counts since the last read? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:39:08 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:04:00 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Ok, I verified the pin and changed the line in the HAL to: net mpg_count hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count = axis.0.jog-counts axis.2.jog-counts axis.1.jog-counts With halcmd I can show hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count and see it go to 1 briefly when spinning the MPG, so it looks like the signal is getting in ok but I'm still not getting any axis movement. if it does not count beyond 0,1 that indicates that either A or B is not being seen (either a wiring or level issue) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:13:06 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:57:50 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the hardware high speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01. is not the low speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01 is the spindle encoder for the second 7I76 (assuming you are using a 7i76x2 config) hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0 is the first MPG encoder (it may have a different name in master) best thing for checking is to list all the pins with halcmd show pins pinlist.txt when linuxcnc is running I've been looking through all the HostMot2 docs I can find including the section on encoders and it's not very clear to me. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_encoder The PNCConf seems to think hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the high speed spindle encoder input, so i presumed that when set to mode2 the low speed encoder inputs GPIO 16..19 would occupy the next two encoder instances. The only reference to the low speed encoder inputs I've found is the sentence or two on pg.18 of the 7i76man.pdf you pointed out. Surely there is a more detailed explanation of this somewhere? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:43:46 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:29:53 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.ini http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.hal The problem I see is the the mpg is connected to the spindle encoder on P2 (channel 1) not the mpg encoder on the 7i76 field I/O Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/)
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:42:34 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Both show good in the Tek 'scope with the probes clipped onto the little bit of wire accessible from the screw terminals on the 7i76. Hard to imagine the wire clamped in the screw terminal but not making contact. With LinuxCNC running doesn't it reset that count with each read so it only will show the counts since the last read? A likely culprit is this: The MPG common must connect to the field power ground (the counter will not be reset unless you specifically clear it) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:39:08 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:04:00 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Ok, I verified the pin and changed the line in the HAL to: net mpg_count hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count = axis.0.jog-counts axis.2.jog-counts axis.1.jog-counts With halcmd I can show hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count and see it go to 1 briefly when spinning the MPG, so it looks like the signal is getting in ok but I'm still not getting any axis movement. if it does not count beyond 0,1 that indicates that either A or B is not being seen (either a wiring or level issue) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:13:06 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:57:50 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the hardware high speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01. is not the low speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01 is the spindle encoder for the second 7I76 (assuming you are using a 7i76x2 config) hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0 is the first MPG encoder (it may have a different name in master) best thing for checking is to list all the pins with halcmd show pins pinlist.txt when linuxcnc is running I've been looking through all the HostMot2 docs I can find including the section on encoders and it's not very clear to me. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_encoder The PNCConf seems to think hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the high speed spindle encoder input, so i presumed that when set to mode2 the low speed encoder inputs GPIO 16..19 would occupy the next two encoder instances. The only reference to the low speed encoder inputs I've found is the sentence or two on pg.18 of the 7i76man.pdf you pointed out. Surely there is a more detailed explanation of this somewhere? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:43:46 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:29:53 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.ini http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.hal The problem I see is the the mpg is connected to the spindle encoder on P2 (channel 1) not the mpg encoder on the 7i76 field I/O Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination.
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
The encoder is powered from TB3 pin 21 and 23 since it's 5V and field power is 24V. Is it safe to tie the grounds together? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:45:32 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:42:34 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Both show good in the Tek 'scope with the probes clipped onto the little bit of wire accessible from the screw terminals on the 7i76. Hard to imagine the wire clamped in the screw terminal but not making contact. With LinuxCNC running doesn't it reset that count with each read so it only will show the counts since the last read? A likely culprit is this: The MPG common must connect to the field power ground (the counter will not be reset unless you specifically clear it) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:39:08 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:04:00 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Ok, I verified the pin and changed the line in the HAL to: net mpg_count hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count = axis.0.jog-counts axis.2.jog-counts axis.1.jog-counts With halcmd I can show hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count and see it go to 1 briefly when spinning the MPG, so it looks like the signal is getting in ok but I'm still not getting any axis movement. if it does not count beyond 0,1 that indicates that either A or B is not being seen (either a wiring or level issue) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:13:06 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:57:50 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the hardware high speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01. is not the low speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01 is the spindle encoder for the second 7I76 (assuming you are using a 7i76x2 config) hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0 is the first MPG encoder (it may have a different name in master) best thing for checking is to list all the pins with halcmd show pins pinlist.txt when linuxcnc is running I've been looking through all the HostMot2 docs I can find including the section on encoders and it's not very clear to me. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_encoder The PNCConf seems to think hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the high speed spindle encoder input, so i presumed that when set to mode2 the low speed encoder inputs GPIO 16..19 would occupy the next two encoder instances. The only reference to the low speed encoder inputs I've found is the sentence or two on pg.18 of the 7i76man.pdf you pointed out. Surely there is a more detailed explanation of this somewhere? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:43:46 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:29:53 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.ini http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.hal The problem I see is the the mpg is connected to the spindle encoder on P2 (channel 1) not the mpg encoder on the 7i76 field I/O Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Actually, isn't that 5V output derived from the 24V field power input anyway? --Original Mail-- From: p...@wpnet.us To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:50:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 The encoder is powered from TB3 pin 21 and 23 since it's 5V and field power is 24V. Is it safe to tie the grounds together? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:45:32 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:42:34 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Both show good in the Tek 'scope with the probes clipped onto the little bit of wire accessible from the screw terminals on the 7i76. Hard to imagine the wire clamped in the screw terminal but not making contact. With LinuxCNC running doesn't it reset that count with each read so it only will show the counts since the last read? A likely culprit is this: The MPG common must connect to the field power ground (the counter will not be reset unless you specifically clear it) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:39:08 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:04:00 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Ok, I verified the pin and changed the line in the HAL to: net mpg_count hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count = axis.0.jog-counts axis.2.jog-counts axis.1.jog-counts With halcmd I can show hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count and see it go to 1 briefly when spinning the MPG, so it looks like the signal is getting in ok but I'm still not getting any axis movement. if it does not count beyond 0,1 that indicates that either A or B is not being seen (either a wiring or level issue) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:13:06 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:57:50 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the hardware high speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01. is not the low speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01 is the spindle encoder for the second 7I76 (assuming you are using a 7i76x2 config) hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0 is the first MPG encoder (it may have a different name in master) best thing for checking is to list all the pins with halcmd show pins pinlist.txt when linuxcnc is running I've been looking through all the HostMot2 docs I can find including the section on encoders and it's not very clear to me. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_encoder The PNCConf seems to think hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the high speed spindle encoder input, so i presumed that when set to mode2 the low speed encoder inputs GPIO 16..19 would occupy the next two encoder instances. The only reference to the low speed encoder inputs I've found is the sentence or two on pg.18 of the 7i76man.pdf you pointed out. Surely there is a more detailed explanation of this somewhere? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:43:46 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:29:53 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.ini http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.hal The problem I see is the the mpg is connected to the spindle encoder on P2 (channel 1) not the mpg encoder on the 7i76 field I/O Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination.
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:50:02 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 The encoder is powered from TB3 pin 21 and 23 since it's 5V and field power is 24V. Is it safe to tie the grounds together? Yes, its safe but possible undesirable as it makes the PC 5V and field power ground common so you lose the 24V IO isolation --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:45:32 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:42:34 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Both show good in the Tek 'scope with the probes clipped onto the little bit of wire accessible from the screw terminals on the 7i76. Hard to imagine the wire clamped in the screw terminal but not making contact. With LinuxCNC running doesn't it reset that count with each read so it only will show the counts since the last read? A likely culprit is this: The MPG common must connect to the field power ground (the counter will not be reset unless you specifically clear it) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:39:08 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:04:00 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Ok, I verified the pin and changed the line in the HAL to: net mpg_count hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count = axis.0.jog-counts axis.2.jog-counts axis.1.jog-counts With halcmd I can show hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count and see it go to 1 briefly when spinning the MPG, so it looks like the signal is getting in ok but I'm still not getting any axis movement. if it does not count beyond 0,1 that indicates that either A or B is not being seen (either a wiring or level issue) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:13:06 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:57:50 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the hardware high speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01. is not the low speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01 is the spindle encoder for the second 7I76 (assuming you are using a 7i76x2 config) hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0 is the first MPG encoder (it may have a different name in master) best thing for checking is to list all the pins with halcmd show pins pinlist.txt when linuxcnc is running I've been looking through all the HostMot2 docs I can find including the section on encoders and it's not very clear to me. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_encoder The PNCConf seems to think hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the high speed spindle encoder input, so i presumed that when set to mode2 the low speed encoder inputs GPIO 16..19 would occupy the next two encoder instances. The only reference to the low speed encoder inputs I've found is the sentence or two on pg.18 of the 7i76man.pdf you pointed out. Surely there is a more detailed explanation of this somewhere? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:43:46 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:29:53 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.ini http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.hal The problem I see is the the mpg is connected to the spindle encoder on P2 (channel 1) not the mpg encoder on the 7i76 field I/O Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:55:12 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Actually, isn't that 5V output derived from the 24V field power input anyway? No, that comes from PC 5V --Original Mail-- From: p...@wpnet.us To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:50:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 The encoder is powered from TB3 pin 21 and 23 since it's 5V and field power is 24V. Is it safe to tie the grounds together? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:45:32 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:42:34 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Both show good in the Tek 'scope with the probes clipped onto the little bit of wire accessible from the screw terminals on the 7i76. Hard to imagine the wire clamped in the screw terminal but not making contact. With LinuxCNC running doesn't it reset that count with each read so it only will show the counts since the last read? A likely culprit is this: The MPG common must connect to the field power ground (the counter will not be reset unless you specifically clear it) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:39:08 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:04:00 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Ok, I verified the pin and changed the line in the HAL to: net mpg_count hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count = axis.0.jog-counts axis.2.jog-counts axis.1.jog-counts With halcmd I can show hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count and see it go to 1 briefly when spinning the MPG, so it looks like the signal is getting in ok but I'm still not getting any axis movement. if it does not count beyond 0,1 that indicates that either A or B is not being seen (either a wiring or level issue) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:13:06 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:57:50 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the hardware high speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01. is not the low speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01 is the spindle encoder for the second 7I76 (assuming you are using a 7i76x2 config) hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0 is the first MPG encoder (it may have a different name in master) best thing for checking is to list all the pins with halcmd show pins pinlist.txt when linuxcnc is running I've been looking through all the HostMot2 docs I can find including the section on encoders and it's not very clear to me. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_encoder The PNCConf seems to think hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the high speed spindle encoder input, so i presumed that when set to mode2 the low speed encoder inputs GPIO 16..19 would occupy the next two encoder instances. The only reference to the low speed encoder inputs I've found is the sentence or two on pg.18 of the 7i76man.pdf you pointed out. Surely there is a more detailed explanation of this somewhere? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:43:46 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:29:53 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.ini http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.hal The problem I see is the the mpg
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Never mind, it must not be since it's live when the field power is off. --Original Mail-- From: p...@wpnet.us To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:55:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Actually, isn't that 5V output derived from the 24V field power input anyway? --Original Mail-- From: p...@wpnet.us To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:50:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 The encoder is powered from TB3 pin 21 and 23 since it's 5V and field power is 24V. Is it safe to tie the grounds together? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:45:32 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:42:34 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Both show good in the Tek 'scope with the probes clipped onto the little bit of wire accessible from the screw terminals on the 7i76. Hard to imagine the wire clamped in the screw terminal but not making contact. With LinuxCNC running doesn't it reset that count with each read so it only will show the counts since the last read? A likely culprit is this: The MPG common must connect to the field power ground (the counter will not be reset unless you specifically clear it) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:39:08 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:04:00 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Ok, I verified the pin and changed the line in the HAL to: net mpg_count hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count = axis.0.jog-counts axis.2.jog-counts axis.1.jog-counts With halcmd I can show hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count and see it go to 1 briefly when spinning the MPG, so it looks like the signal is getting in ok but I'm still not getting any axis movement. if it does not count beyond 0,1 that indicates that either A or B is not being seen (either a wiring or level issue) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:13:06 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:57:50 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the hardware high speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01. is not the low speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01 is the spindle encoder for the second 7I76 (assuming you are using a 7i76x2 config) hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0 is the first MPG encoder (it may have a different name in master) best thing for checking is to list all the pins with halcmd show pins pinlist.txt when linuxcnc is running I've been looking through all the HostMot2 docs I can find including the section on encoders and it's not very clear to me. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_encoder The PNCConf seems to think hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the high speed spindle encoder input, so i presumed that when set to mode2 the low speed encoder inputs GPIO 16..19 would occupy the next two encoder instances. The only reference to the low speed encoder inputs I've found is the sentence or two on pg.18 of the 7i76man.pdf you pointed out. Surely there is a more detailed explanation of this somewhere? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:43:46 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:29:53 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.ini http://wpnet.us/Harrison2.hal The problem I see is the the mpg is connected to the spindle encoder on P2 (channel 1) not the mpg
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On 29 October 2014 19:50, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Is it safe to tie the grounds together? An easy way to tell is to see if there is a voltage difference between them. If it shows zero volts that probably means that they are already electrically common. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC Meeting Stuttgart, Germany 2014
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: PICS OR IT DID NOT HAPPEN! Marius controlling the IRB1400 with his phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBIX_MliFeU The R15 doing it's first real world mode operation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ARjpL44IfE Thanks Alex, for the writeup ... I also need to work on that ;-) -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
On 10/29/2014 10:58 AM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: All insured I'm sure, just an astronomical premium increase in the works... I wouldn't be so sure about that. I heard that companies stock took a hit today. I'd be bending over a trash can for a while, losing the last several meals, if I was the CEO of that company. SpaceX has had some big issues recently also. I bet that their list of prospective astronauts to ride atop these rockets is dwindling as we speak. But hey, this _IS_ rocket science. I think that Nasa should resurrect the Constellation program. Nasa received most of the tooling required to make the Ares rocket. They even installed and tested the tooling fixtures. Having to pay Russia to launch our crap into low earth orbit is an embarrassment. Dave --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Ok, I added a separate field 5V supply with common ground with the field 24V supply. I also fixed a bad connection on the MPG A channel and the count value does indeed go up and down with the MPG wheel. What I still don't have is any axis movement (keyboard jog works fine). :( --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:55:58 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:50:02 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 The encoder is powered from TB3 pin 21 and 23 since it's 5V and field power is 24V. Is it safe to tie the grounds together? Yes, its safe but possible undesirable as it makes the PC 5V and field power ground common so you lose the 24V IO isolation --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:45:32 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:42:34 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Both show good in the Tek 'scope with the probes clipped onto the little bit of wire accessible from the screw terminals on the 7i76. Hard to imagine the wire clamped in the screw terminal but not making contact. With LinuxCNC running doesn't it reset that count with each read so it only will show the counts since the last read? A likely culprit is this: The MPG common must connect to the field power ground (the counter will not be reset unless you specifically clear it) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:39:08 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 14:04:00 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 Ok, I verified the pin and changed the line in the HAL to: net mpg_count hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count = axis.0.jog-counts axis.2.jog-counts axis.1.jog-counts With halcmd I can show hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0.count and see it go to 1 briefly when spinning the MPG, so it looks like the signal is getting in ok but I'm still not getting any axis movement. if it does not count beyond 0,1 that indicates that either A or B is not being seen (either a wiring or level issue) --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:13:06 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:57:50 -0500 From: p...@wpnet.us Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the hardware high speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01. is not the low speed encoder? hm2_5i25.0.encoder.01 is the spindle encoder for the second 7I76 (assuming you are using a 7i76x2 config) hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.enc0 is the first MPG encoder (it may have a different name in master) best thing for checking is to list all the pins with halcmd show pins pinlist.txt when linuxcnc is running I've been looking through all the HostMot2 docs I can find including the section on encoders and it's not very clear to me. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_encoder The PNCConf seems to think hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00. is the high speed spindle encoder input, so i presumed that when set to mode2 the low speed encoder inputs GPIO 16..19 would occupy the next two encoder instances. The only reference to the low speed encoder inputs I've found is the sentence or two on pg.18 of the 7i76man.pdf you pointed out. Surely there is a more detailed explanation of this somewhere? --Original Mail-- From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10:43:46 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On Wed, 29 Oct 2014,
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC Meeting Stuttgart, Germany 2014
On 10/29/14 2:06 PM, Christian Stöveken wrote: Marius controlling the IRB1400 with his phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBIX_MliFeU The R15 doing it's first real world mode operation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ARjpL44IfE Awesome! Are you using genserkins for the R15? -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
On 29 October 2014 20:48, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Ok, I added a separate field 5V supply with common ground with the field 24V supply. I also fixed a bad connection on the MPG A channel and the count value does indeed go up and down with the MPG wheel. What I still don't have is any axis movement (keyboard jog works fine). :( For jogging to happen: 1) the encoder counts value needs to be connected to the axis.N.jog-counts 2) the axis.N.jog-enable pin needs to be TRUE (either setp or net) 3 the axis.N.jog-scale value needs to be non-zero (either net or setp) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Numeric entry with touchscreen and Glade
Dave, I have a 5i20. What boards do you have attached to the 5i20? What are you trying to do? Dave On 10/29/2014 4:00 AM, David Armstrong wrote: Andy have you a 5i20 ? i'm trying to add in the orient ( m19 ) can you see where i should link it in , i have a feeling i totaly lost the plot and trying to follow to add a mux for selecting 2 pwmgen scales for the gearbox as i also need to operate a relay too so is a mux approprate as you discussed http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/39-pncconf/28432-lathe-spindle-control-help-needed-in-pncconf?start=20 and becoming confused in the process , probably because i'm using a 5i20 and not a 5i25 which i'm more familiar with full config folder attached if it make it easier to open i have 2 pwmgen scales which are halcmd setp pwmgen.scale -5950 ( high range and default ) and low range halcmd setp pwmgen.scale -1550 along with a gpio pin to select true at the same time as this scale halcmd setp hm2_5i20.0.gpio.069.out if you haver a few mins Andy guide me out of this maze and correct me on the path to enlightenment as i'm sure iv'e mucked up somewhere On 28 October 2014 23:46, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 October 2014 22:32, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, that works a treat. Bah! Within limits anyway. I have ended up with a GtkEntry that has both icons active as up and down buttons. Looks good for touchscreen use. But I can't figure out how to get the icons to operate and also have the pop-up keyboard come up when something other than the icons is pressed. The whole widget responds to button_click, and the click-position is relative to the icon or the text entry, so no way to distinguish the icons from each other, or the left-hand edge of the text from either icon. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC Meeting Stuttgart, Germany 2014
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: Are you using genserkins for the R15? yes. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76
Movement at last! Now I can get on with axis tuning, then getting the coolant pump going, etc. Thanks Pete C. --Original Mail-- From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 20:53:39 + Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe conversion with Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 On 29 October 2014 20:48, p...@wpnet.us wrote: Ok, I added a separate field 5V supply with common ground with the field 24V supply. I also fixed a bad connection on the MPG A channel and the count value does indeed go up and down with the MPG wheel. What I still don't have is any axis movement (keyboard jog works fine). :( For jogging to happen: 1) the encoder counts value needs to be connected to the axis.N.jog-counts 2) the axis.N.jog-enable pin needs to be TRUE (either setp or net) 3 the axis.N.jog-scale value needs to be non-zero (either net or setp) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
2014-10-29 18:34 GMT-03:00 Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I think that Nasa should resurrect the Constellation program. Nasa received most of the tooling required to make the Ares rocket. They even installed and tested the tooling fixtures. Having to pay Russia to launch our crap into low earth orbit is an embarrassment. And imagine how far we would be now if they hadn't cancelled the Apollo program. I've been reading something about the VASIMR motors to reduce the travelling speed and they would be testing the first prototypes sometime near 2013/2014, but I don't know if that happened or not. Reading wikipedia it says that with this motors the duration of a possible trip to Mars would be of 39 days. Pretty impressive. Anyway, the Plasma motors only would be useful in space, we still need the rockets to escape from the earht's gravity, unless they come with a better system. -- *Leonardo Marsaglia*. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
On 29 October 2014 22:20, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote: we still need the rockets to escape from the earht's gravity, unless they come with a better system. http://www.reactionengines.co.uk/space_skylon.html -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC Meeting Stuttgart, Germany 2014
If anyone is interested in our Servo Project, all the code and PCBs are now on github: https://github.com/rene-dev/stmbl Lars is uploading more videos and pictures at the moment. Thanks again for everything! Rene On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:11, Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: Are you using genserkins for the R15? yes. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
On 10/29/14 4:54 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 29 October 2014 22:20, Leonardo Marsaglia leonardomarsagli...@gmail.com wrote: we still need the rockets to escape from the earht's gravity, unless they come with a better system. http://www.reactionengines.co.uk/space_skylon.html http://autogeny.org/tower/tower.html Like a space elevator, but practical. -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC Meeting Stuttgart, Germany 2014
On 10/29/2014 03:06 PM, Christian Stöveken wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: PICS OR IT DID NOT HAPPEN! Marius controlling the IRB1400 with his phone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBIX_MliFeU The R15 doing it's first real world mode operation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ARjpL44IfE Thanks Alex, for the writeup ... I also need to work on that ;-) -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Applause! Kudos to the European Linuxcnc Crew! tomp tjtr33 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
On 29 October 2014 23:04, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: http://www.reactionengines.co.uk/space_skylon.html http://autogeny.org/tower/tower.html Like a space elevator, but practical. Skylon looks like it could be made to work for about 4 billion, and the only totally new parts (heat exchanger and fuel-intercooler scheme) have been demonstrated working. It is mainly a better-designed HOTOL ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HOTOL ) which was described by the actual designer as turned out to be an expensive way to send a hydraulic system to low earth orbit I can't see anyone finding the 4 billion in the current climate though. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC Meeting Stuttgart, Germany 2014
It was very funny! Here some impressions: http://youtu.be/LSxUvlBTlxk https://www.dropbox.com/sh/l7s5kfsxevip3yk/AAC87JL4PaluH9RyIghYS1Jsa?dl=0 Lars Am 30.10.2014 um 00:02 schrieb Rene Hopf: If anyone is interested in our Servo Project, all the code and PCBs are now on github: https://github.com/rene-dev/stmbl Lars is uploading more videos and pictures at the moment. Thanks again for everything! Rene On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:11, Christian Stöveken christian.stoeve...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: Are you using genserkins for the R15? yes. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Lars Möller Idenbrockweg 235 48159 Münster Tel. 0251 5908618 Mobil 0177 5211752 -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
On 10/29/2014 5:20 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: 2014-10-29 18:34 GMT-03:00 Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I think that Nasa should resurrect the Constellation program. Nasa received most of the tooling required to make the Ares rocket. They even installed and tested the tooling fixtures. Having to pay Russia to launch our crap into low earth orbit is an embarrassment. And imagine how far we would be now if they hadn't cancelled the Apollo program. I've been reading something about the VASIMR motors to reduce the travelling speed and they would be testing the first prototypes sometime near 2013/2014, but I don't know if that happened or not. Reading wikipedia it says that with this motors the duration of a possible trip to Mars would be of 39 days. Pretty impressive. Anyway, the Plasma motors only would be useful in space, we still need the rockets to escape from the earht's gravity, unless they come with a better system. Funny that you mention Apollo... I just heard that the engines on the Antares rocket that blew up last night was using 40 year old refurbished Russian rocket engines.. (no joke - Apollo vintage) A quick search verified that. They were originally made in the 1970's! http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/oct/29/russian-rocket-crash-virginia I'm always looking for a bargain, but why would anyone in their right mind use refurbished Russian Rocket engines from the 1970's for a launch in 2014 ?? Wouldn't that be a RED FLAG for most engineers?? What were they thinking?? :-( Dave --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
As I understand it, those are (basically) the same engines that takes the Soyuz rockets up still.. Truth be told (I'm no expert but have seen some articles to this effect) the Russian rocket engines where much superior to their American counterparts such that since Russia put some of there political views up on the shelf, these motors have been imported into the U.S. in fairly good numbers. Just 'cause it's old doesn't mean it won't work. Might not be as efficient as new technology but if you factor in the cost of acquiring(creating) new technology, sometimes the old stuff is still more efficient. Fwiw Jarrett Johnson All grammar and spelling errors, compliments of my iPhone On Oct 29, 2014, at 18:54, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/29/2014 5:20 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: 2014-10-29 18:34 GMT-03:00 Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I think that Nasa should resurrect the Constellation program. Nasa received most of the tooling required to make the Ares rocket. They even installed and tested the tooling fixtures. Having to pay Russia to launch our crap into low earth orbit is an embarrassment. And imagine how far we would be now if they hadn't cancelled the Apollo program. I've been reading something about the VASIMR motors to reduce the travelling speed and they would be testing the first prototypes sometime near 2013/2014, but I don't know if that happened or not. Reading wikipedia it says that with this motors the duration of a possible trip to Mars would be of 39 days. Pretty impressive. Anyway, the Plasma motors only would be useful in space, we still need the rockets to escape from the earht's gravity, unless they come with a better system. Funny that you mention Apollo... I just heard that the engines on the Antares rocket that blew up last night was using 40 year old refurbished Russian rocket engines.. (no joke - Apollo vintage) A quick search verified that. They were originally made in the 1970's! http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/oct/29/russian-rocket-crash-virginia I'm always looking for a bargain, but why would anyone in their right mind use refurbished Russian Rocket engines from the 1970's for a launch in 2014 ?? Wouldn't that be a RED FLAG for most engineers?? What were they thinking?? :-( Dave --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
Yes, the old russian rockets are BETTER than anything the US produced, even today. They are closed cycle. There was a very good documentary on them not too long ago I watched but can't find it now. On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Home hjjohn...@sasktel.net wrote: As I understand it, those are (basically) the same engines that takes the Soyuz rockets up still.. Truth be told (I'm no expert but have seen some articles to this effect) the Russian rocket engines where much superior to their American counterparts such that since Russia put some of there political views up on the shelf, these motors have been imported into the U.S. in fairly good numbers. Just 'cause it's old doesn't mean it won't work. Might not be as efficient as new technology but if you factor in the cost of acquiring(creating) new technology, sometimes the old stuff is still more efficient. Fwiw Jarrett Johnson All grammar and spelling errors, compliments of my iPhone On Oct 29, 2014, at 18:54, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/29/2014 5:20 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: 2014-10-29 18:34 GMT-03:00 Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I think that Nasa should resurrect the Constellation program. Nasa received most of the tooling required to make the Ares rocket. They even installed and tested the tooling fixtures. Having to pay Russia to launch our crap into low earth orbit is an embarrassment. And imagine how far we would be now if they hadn't cancelled the Apollo program. I've been reading something about the VASIMR motors to reduce the travelling speed and they would be testing the first prototypes sometime near 2013/2014, but I don't know if that happened or not. Reading wikipedia it says that with this motors the duration of a possible trip to Mars would be of 39 days. Pretty impressive. Anyway, the Plasma motors only would be useful in space, we still need the rockets to escape from the earht's gravity, unless they come with a better system. Funny that you mention Apollo... I just heard that the engines on the Antares rocket that blew up last night was using 40 year old refurbished Russian rocket engines.. (no joke - Apollo vintage) A quick search verified that. They were originally made in the 1970's! http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/oct/29/russian-rocket-crash-virginia I'm always looking for a bargain, but why would anyone in their right mind use refurbished Russian Rocket engines from the 1970's for a launch in 2014 ?? Wouldn't that be a RED FLAG for most engineers?? What were they thinking?? :-( Dave --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
Found it: the engines that came in from the cold https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv7-kDhSnm7P1dAiJvvjeiLgwfv8_58TO On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Stephen Dubovsky smdubov...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the old russian rockets are BETTER than anything the US produced, even today. They are closed cycle. There was a very good documentary on them not too long ago I watched but can't find it now. On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Home hjjohn...@sasktel.net wrote: As I understand it, those are (basically) the same engines that takes the Soyuz rockets up still.. Truth be told (I'm no expert but have seen some articles to this effect) the Russian rocket engines where much superior to their American counterparts such that since Russia put some of there political views up on the shelf, these motors have been imported into the U.S. in fairly good numbers. Just 'cause it's old doesn't mean it won't work. Might not be as efficient as new technology but if you factor in the cost of acquiring(creating) new technology, sometimes the old stuff is still more efficient. Fwiw Jarrett Johnson All grammar and spelling errors, compliments of my iPhone On Oct 29, 2014, at 18:54, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/29/2014 5:20 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: 2014-10-29 18:34 GMT-03:00 Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com: I think that Nasa should resurrect the Constellation program. Nasa received most of the tooling required to make the Ares rocket. They even installed and tested the tooling fixtures. Having to pay Russia to launch our crap into low earth orbit is an embarrassment. And imagine how far we would be now if they hadn't cancelled the Apollo program. I've been reading something about the VASIMR motors to reduce the travelling speed and they would be testing the first prototypes sometime near 2013/2014, but I don't know if that happened or not. Reading wikipedia it says that with this motors the duration of a possible trip to Mars would be of 39 days. Pretty impressive. Anyway, the Plasma motors only would be useful in space, we still need the rockets to escape from the earht's gravity, unless they come with a better system. Funny that you mention Apollo... I just heard that the engines on the Antares rocket that blew up last night was using 40 year old refurbished Russian rocket engines.. (no joke - Apollo vintage) A quick search verified that. They were originally made in the 1970's! http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/oct/29/russian-rocket-crash-virginia I'm always looking for a bargain, but why would anyone in their right mind use refurbished Russian Rocket engines from the 1970's for a launch in 2014 ?? Wouldn't that be a RED FLAG for most engineers?? What were they thinking?? :-( Dave --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
On 30 October 2014 00:54, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: I'm always looking for a bargain, but why would anyone in their right mind use refurbished Russian Rocket engines from the 1970's for a launch in 2014 ?? Presumably they were refurbished but unused. (you don't get them back). They were made 40 years ago regardless of cost, and probably very well. To phrase the question another way, why make new at huge cost when NOS are available off the shelf? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Error on startup Lcnc
On 10/29/2014 11:52 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 10/29/2014 09:36 AM, Jon Elson wrote: On 10/29/2014 02:56 AM, Tomaz T. wrote: I found out that it was entirely hardware problem, because after moving parallel pci card to the other pci slot, it finally started to work. Hmmm, very strange! Well, glad you got it to work! Jon I think changing slots changes where PCI assigns where the card's base and extended address space? PCI does not assign addresses by slot #, but it does enumerate boards in the order of the slots. So, it is possible changing position will change the I/O address of the slot. Also, there are PCI slots with different power supplies and number of data bits, so possibly one slot was not compatible with the parport board. Jon -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Houston LinuxCNC Fest
On 10/29/2014 01:19 PM, Mark Johnsen wrote: I had a great time in Houston at TX/RX labs as well. Thanks to Chris and Roland for hosting and breakfast on Sunday! I posted some pics of the Houston fest at TX/RX as well: https://plus.google.com/114303576325717690129/posts/GHGRPmUwKt6 HEY, that's funny! You have a picture of me taking a picture of you taking a picture of me! I'll get some pics up when I get back on top of all the other stuff I need to be doing. I do want to thank Chris and Roland and all the other fine folks at Tx/Rx also. I had a great time, never heard of a hacker space that served gourmet meals, too! Most of them might have a microwave and a mini-fridge at the most. Jon -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
On 10/29/2014 7:22 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 30 October 2014 00:54, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: I'm always looking for a bargain, but why would anyone in their right mind use refurbished Russian Rocket engines from the 1970's for a launch in 2014 ?? Presumably they were refurbished but unused. (you don't get them back). They were made 40 years ago regardless of cost, and probably very well. To phrase the question another way, why make new at huge cost when NOS are available off the shelf? I don't know if the engines caused the problem or not but this launch company bought up a number of these engines in order to economize on their rocket production. The Russian engine maker is distancing themselves from those engines saying that the Americans modified them. Here is an interesting article on the subject of the old Russian engines. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/29/antares-rocket-explosion-the-question-of-using-decades-old-soviet-engines/ Quoting this article: In May, one of its refurbished Soviet engines failed at the Stennis Space Center in Mississippi. Sources claim the engine 'exploded,' reported http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/05/antares-aj-26-engine-fails-stennis-testing/ NASA Space Flight. The failure is currently under evaluation. The Washington Post also said that they had to weld stress corrosion cracks in the engines after 40 years of storage... but at least they were cheap! ;-) A Guardian article: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/oct/29/russian-rocket-crash-virginia I am not a huge fan of SpaceX, but they have developed their own engines. I believe they can do better than 1970's technology.Things have advanced a lot since the 70's. Dave --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The Warm Glow of Mach 3
2014-10-29 20:20 GMT-03:00 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: Skylon looks like it could be made to work for about 4 billion, and the only totally new parts (heat exchanger and fuel-intercooler scheme) have been demonstrated working. It is mainly a better-designed HOTOL ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HOTOL ) which was described by the actual designer as turned out to be an expensive way to send a hydraulic system to low earth orbit I can't see anyone finding the 4 billion in the current climate though. I guess that's the main problem with all of these projects. Most of the people are not interested in space travel and what's beyond this planet, hence nobody wants to invest a lot of money on that. The sad thing is, all the great achievements and progress are acomplished in war times. -- *Leonardo Marsaglia*. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
