Re: [Emc-users] Using washing machine motor

2014-12-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 December 2014 00:22:30 richsh...@comcast.net did opine
And Gene did reply:
 Our Sears washing machine got replaced and I got the motor. Says 820W 3
 phase, 195V, 320 hz, 17,000 rpm. Anyone messed with one of these with
 a vfd or a vector drive? It's tiny, seems to be well built, shame to
 put it in the bin without seeing what can be done with it.

It sure seems like it would be a suitable spindle drive for an engraving 
machine.  Or with a timing belt reduction, a milling machine or lathe 
spindle for up to a 8 lathe.

You did not salvage the motors driving electronics?  Not having the driver 
electronics would run the cost up a bit.  IIRC I saw something on PCW's 
site that might work for that.  Thats www.mesanet.com.  Find the 8I20.  
Its for 3 phase stuff to 400 volts, and 30 amps. Over kill, but can do 
that job I would think.  Probably a daughter card setup that would need 
another interface to the computer.

I have no experience with it, so Peter, help me out here?

You say its tiny, and I'd assume air cooled.  How big around is it. I 
would love to find something I could mount in the nominally 50mm diameter 
Z slider castings hole for the existing spindle of my toy mill which 
currently has a 200 watt, nominally 4k revs peak motor that drives to 2500 
revs max thru noisy, high failure rate plastic gears now.  All the 
candidate motors on fleabay are 53mm and up diameters, and would need the 
spindle bore enlarged, at risk of finding air.

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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus

2014-12-19 Thread 77dab
Yes, I know, I already made a Java software to control independently 8 
of those VFD via modbus, and it works. They can run up to 38600baud. 
what timing do you think i can expect from a sistem like that in 
LinuxCNC? something like 10 VFD messages per second? or better?

On 18/12/2014 14:57, Todd Zuercher wrote:
 I am controling 8 VFDs on a single machine with Linuxchc through one 
 USB-RS485 converter (from Automation direct).  No real problems for me except 
 some random com errors.  It works good enough though.  I have not had to 
 restart or anything like that because of them.  They do fill up an error log 
 pretty fast when running from terminal.  It can be a little slow to respond 
 sometimes, reading and writing to 32 different registers at 9600bps plus 
 rewrites for bad com.

 It can be a little tricky to set up, you have to know all the modbus details 
 about your drives (every manufacturers drives are different), and configure 
 mb2hal to use them (there is nothing automagic here).

 - Original Message -
 From: 77dab 77...@tiscali.it
 To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:53:40 AM
 Subject: [Emc-users] Modbus

 Hi all,
 I have on my hand some mitsubishi VFD with 550w winches.
 I would like to try to move them using LinuxCNC.
 the thing is not meant to be Real time, and I've read the modbus module
 lives in User space and it's not RT.
 So, my question:
 Since it isn't RT, can I drive the rs485 thru a USB-rs485 converter,
 using a laptop?

 Thanks, Davide.

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Re: [Emc-users] G edit and velocity

2014-12-19 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote:

 A friend of mine comments that vi is vile! However it is on every unix
 system. I occasionally use vim but that makes it easier by adapting to
 the dos keyboard, eg. arrows, backspace, etc.

 Dave


Nah, vile is like vi...  or like emacs...  or like...

 http://invisible-island.net/vile/
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Re: [Emc-users] G edit and velocity

2014-12-19 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:59 PM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:

 What's wrong with ed?

 JT


Nuthin'.  ;-)

Who's Ed?

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Re: [Emc-users] G edit and velocity

2014-12-19 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Thursday 18 December 2014 12:59:12 John Thornton did opine
 And Gene did reply:
  What's wrong with ed?
 
  JT
 A printable cheat sheet on how to run it?

 And I am not, and never will be enamored with a line editor that cannot
 back up anyway but saving the file 7 reopening it.


Gene,

Maybe there's too much blood in my caffeine stream this early in the
morning, but I have no earthly idea what you meant here...  ;-)

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Re: [Emc-users] G edit and velocity

2014-12-19 Thread Mark Wendt
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote:


 I used to use EDLIN and COPY CON to write autoexec.bat and config.sys
 files, and DEBUG to low level format MFM hard drives. ;)

 And nostagia hits, launch a cmd prompt and enter edlin. Hmm an error
 message that c:\Windows\SysWOW64\edlin.exe isn't compatible with 64bit
 Windows. What the??? Says I should contact the vendor to see if a 64 bit
 version is available...


 wendt@steelhead:~$ edlin
edlin: command not found

Not installed on my machine.  ;-)

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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus

2014-12-19 Thread alex chiosso
Hi.
I suggest to you to try the *mb2hal* component to do this job .
I've tested it on TCP/IP and it works just fine.
It is not so well documented as it should be (I mean some clear examples
should give an opportunity of a wide usage of this well packed
component. *THANKS
to Viktor Rocco the Author of the mb2hal component*).
You can do all the modbus stuff using mb2hal so all the pins from read and
write functions are automatically generated .
And you're not limitated to a max number of read or write instances as the
modbus integrated into ClassicLadder have.
So with mb2hal the dirty job is done trasparently for the integrator .
As you should know the performances over serial/rs485 line depends also
from the response time of the slaves and from how many instances you
fragment your communication data/registers .
One thing that I suggest to you is to buy a galvanically insulated
converter, to use a proper connnection shielded cable and a speed of 19200
baud , take care about connections and in case use the termination
resistors (in case of long wiring) at both line ends.

Alex



On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:19 AM, 77dab 77...@tiscali.it wrote:

 Yes, I know, I already made a Java software to control independently 8
 of those VFD via modbus, and it works. They can run up to 38600baud.
 what timing do you think i can expect from a sistem like that in
 LinuxCNC? something like 10 VFD messages per second? or better?

 On 18/12/2014 14:57, Todd Zuercher wrote:
  I am controling 8 VFDs on a single machine with Linuxchc through one
 USB-RS485 converter (from Automation direct).  No real problems for me
 except some random com errors.  It works good enough though.  I have not
 had to restart or anything like that because of them.  They do fill up an
 error log pretty fast when running from terminal.  It can be a little slow
 to respond sometimes, reading and writing to 32 different registers at
 9600bps plus rewrites for bad com.
 
  It can be a little tricky to set up, you have to know all the modbus
 details about your drives (every manufacturers drives are different), and
 configure mb2hal to use them (there is nothing automagic here).
 
  - Original Message -
  From: 77dab 77...@tiscali.it
  To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:53:40 AM
  Subject: [Emc-users] Modbus
 
  Hi all,
  I have on my hand some mitsubishi VFD with 550w winches.
  I would like to try to move them using LinuxCNC.
  the thing is not meant to be Real time, and I've read the modbus module
  lives in User space and it's not RT.
  So, my question:
  Since it isn't RT, can I drive the rs485 thru a USB-rs485 converter,
  using a laptop?
 
  Thanks, Davide.
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] touch off doesn't shift loaded paths

2014-12-19 Thread faxel
 I start the sim/axis/axis config, take the machine out of estop and turn
 it on, and home all the axes.  Then i jog Z up or down to someplace, hit
 the End key (or click the Touch Off button) to bring up the Touch-off
 dialog, type in 0, and click Ok.  The backplot immediately jumps so the
 tool is at Z=0.
Exactly this way, but the backplot doesn't jump.

 What version of linuxcnc are you seeing this problem with?
I'm using 2.6.5.

 Can you reproduce it with one of the standard sim configs?
No.
I tried with axis_mm.ini (changing ini to auto homing) and the shift takes 
place as ist should be.

Seems to be an issue with my configuration.

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Re: [Emc-users] G edit and velocity

2014-12-19 Thread Peter Blodow
Mark,
edlin is a part of the DOS subsystem even in Win7, just as edit still 
exists there. It needs to be called followed by a file name since there 
is no load command in edlin.
Peter

Am 19.12.2014 11:07, schrieb Mark Wendt:
 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I used to use EDLIN and COPY CON to write autoexec.bat and config.sys
 files, and DEBUG to low level format MFM hard drives. ;)

 And nostagia hits, launch a cmd prompt and enter edlin. Hmm an error
 message that c:\Windows\SysWOW64\edlin.exe isn't compatible with 64bit
 Windows. What the??? Says I should contact the vendor to see if a 64 bit
 version is available...

   wendt@steelhead:~$ edlin
 edlin: command not found

 Not installed on my machine.  ;-)

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Re: [Emc-users] G edit and velocity

2014-12-19 Thread Mark Wendt
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de wrote:

 Mark,
 edlin is a part of the DOS subsystem even in Win7, just as edit still
 exists there. It needs to be called followed by a file name since there
 is no load command in edlin.
 Peter


Peter,

Yes, I know that.  I was being a little facetious trying to run that
command on a Linux system.  I've been a Windoze, Unix/Linux, and VMS system
administrator for over 25 years.

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Re: [Emc-users] touch off doesn't shift loaded paths

2014-12-19 Thread Claude Zervas
Ah! Yes, I'm using an older version - 2.5.x
I have to upgrade...

thanks
- Claude

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:29 AM, fa...@zoellich.de wrote:

  I start the sim/axis/axis config, take the machine out of estop and turn
  it on, and home all the axes.  Then i jog Z up or down to someplace, hit
  the End key (or click the Touch Off button) to bring up the Touch-off
  dialog, type in 0, and click Ok.  The backplot immediately jumps so the
  tool is at Z=0.
 Exactly this way, but the backplot doesn't jump.

  What version of linuxcnc are you seeing this problem with?
 I'm using 2.6.5.

  Can you reproduce it with one of the standard sim configs?
 No.
 I tried with axis_mm.ini (changing ini to auto homing) and the shift takes
 place as ist should be.

 Seems to be an issue with my configuration.


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Re: [Emc-users] G edit and velocity

2014-12-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 December 2014 05:04:30 Mark Wendt did opine
And Gene did reply:
 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  On Thursday 18 December 2014 12:59:12 John Thornton did opine
  
  And Gene did reply:
   What's wrong with ed?
   
   JT
  
  A printable cheat sheet on how to run it?
  
  And I am not, and never will be enamored with a line editor that
  cannot back up anyway but saving the file 7 reopening it.
 
 Gene,
 
 Maybe there's too much blood in my caffeine stream this early in the
 morning, but I have no earthly idea what you meant here...  ;-)
 
 Mark

Probably true of both of us this time of the morning. :)  But I am working 
on it, the last cup from yesterday is a stain in the bottom of the cup, 
and I made some, and have now been advised by my baby that ha ha, I got 
the first cup, thanks. So my now empty cup is shivering in the room temps 
it has assumed.

Its a fat fingered typu Mark, the 7 s/b a , short for and. Didn't 
work for obvious reasons. ;-)

And the various flavors of ed that I have tangled with on smaller 
machines, could not backup and edit a line above the one in the buffer, 
so you had to save/close, the reopen the file to get to that prior line.

I learned to hate it for exactly that reason.

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Re: [Emc-users] touch off doesn't shift loaded paths

2014-12-19 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 12/19/2014 07:23 AM, Claude Zervas wrote:
 Ah! Yes, I'm using an older version - 2.5.x
 I have to upgrade...

Touch-off works in 2.5 as well.  This must be some strange issue with
your particular configuration.  Upgrading probably won't fix it, we'll
have to figur out what's wrong with your config and address that.


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Re: [Emc-users] touch off doesn't shift loaded paths

2014-12-19 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 07:51:30AM -0700, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
 On 12/19/2014 07:23 AM, Claude Zervas wrote:
  Ah! Yes, I'm using an older version - 2.5.x
  I have to upgrade...
 
 Touch-off works in 2.5 as well.  This must be some strange issue with
 your particular configuration.  Upgrading probably won't fix it, we'll
 have to figur out what's wrong with your config and address that.

A var file that's not writable can cause this.

Sometimes people get into this situation or similar ones by running
linuxcnc with sudo, which you SHOULD NEVER do.

Claude, check permissions and ownership on your configuration files
and directory, and check your home directory and /tmp while you're
at it.

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Re: [Emc-users] touch off doesn't shift loaded paths

2014-12-19 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 12/19/2014 08:17 AM, Chris Radek wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 07:51:30AM -0700, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
 On 12/19/2014 07:23 AM, Claude Zervas wrote:
 Ah! Yes, I'm using an older version - 2.5.x
 I have to upgrade...

 Touch-off works in 2.5 as well.  This must be some strange issue with
 your particular configuration.  Upgrading probably won't fix it, we'll
 have to figur out what's wrong with your config and address that.
 
 A var file that's not writable can cause this.
 
 Sometimes people get into this situation or similar ones by running
 linuxcnc with sudo, which you SHOULD NEVER do.

Ah!

Maybe our launcher script should warn when running as root.


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Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 104, Issue 67

2014-12-19 Thread richshoop
RE: using a washing machine motor 

Tiny is a relative term. About 100mm squarish body, I'm comparing size to NEMA 
motors. The other motor pic looks very clost to the one I have here. I still 
have the drive card from the washer here, I'll go and retrieve it. I was 
figuring on using a 1 1/2hp VFD that has documentation included! Even if you 
work on appliances professionally, getting any documentation besides replace 
module A and module B is very difficult. My intent is to build a baby slant 
bed turret lathe. 

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1. Re: touch off doesn't shift loaded paths (Sebastian Kuzminsky) 
2. Re: G edit and velocity (Gregg Eshelman) 
3. Re: Using washing machine motor (richsh...@comcast.net) 
4. Re: Using washing machine motor (Kirk Wallace) 
5. Re: Using washing machine motor (Gene Heskett) 
6. Re: Modbus (77dab) 
7. Re: G edit and velocity (Mark Wendt) 


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Message: 1 
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:22:17 -0700 
From: Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] touch off doesn't shift loaded paths 
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
Message-ID: 549399e9.8020...@highlab.com 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 

On 12/18/2014 04:36 PM, Axel Z?llich wrote: 
 After loading a g-code file in axis gui I move the tooltip to the workpiece 
 and 
 touch off with 0. 
 But the loaded path doesn't shift towards the tooltip. Indeed it doesn't 
 shift 
 with any touch off value on any coordinate. 
 Should be a configuration error? 

It works for me with 2.6.5. 

I start the sim/axis/axis config, take the machine out of estop and turn 
it on, and home all the axes. Then i jog Z up or down to someplace, hit 
the End key (or click the Touch Off button) to bring up the Touch-off 
dialog, type in 0, and click Ok. The backplot immediately jumps so the 
tool is at Z=0. 

What version of linuxcnc are you seeing this problem with? 

Can you reproduce it with one of the standard sim configs? 


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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:10:43 -0700 
From: Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] G edit and velocity 
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
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On 12/18/2014 7:47 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: 

 I've used vi for so long, it's pretty much automatic. vi is a text editor, 
 not a word processor, which is what the Windoze users have so gotten used 
 to. Once you've gotten familiar with the way vi works, it's a pretty 
 powerful utility. 
 
 And you can't use much of anything else when your windows manager is broke 
 and you have to edit your xorg.conf, or you have to fix your machine in 
 single user mode. No windows manager, no gedit or geany. ;-) 

I used to use EDLIN and COPY CON to write autoexec.bat and config.sys 
files, and DEBUG to low level format MFM hard drives. ;) 

And nostagia hits, launch a cmd prompt and enter edlin. Hmm an error 
message that c:\Windows\SysWOW64\edlin.exe isn't compatible with 64bit 
Windows. What the??? Says I should contact the vendor to see if a 64 bit 
version is available... 

Which is crazier? That Microsoft includes edlin.exe with 64bit Windows 7 
Ultimate or that it's included *but cannot be used*? Edit is in there 
too, but also doesn't work. Tech Net says these are not available in 
64 bit - so WTH are the program files *included* with 64 bit versions? 

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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 05:22:30 + (UTC) 
From: richsh...@comcast.net 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Using washing machine motor 
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
Message-ID: 
887985272.7806840.1418966550439.javamail.zim...@comcast.net 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 

Our Sears washing machine got replaced and I got the motor. Says 820W 3 phase, 
195V, 320 hz, 17,000 rpm. Anyone messed with one of these with a vfd or a 
vector drive? It's tiny, seems to be well built, shame to put it in the bin 
without seeing what can be done with it. 



Re: [Emc-users] G edit and velocity

2014-12-19 Thread dave
after using EDT stepping down to dos edlin was a real shock.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDT_%28text_editor%29
It is amazing how well muscle memory does after awhile. :-)

Dave


On 12/19/2014 02:07 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I used to use EDLIN and COPY CON to write autoexec.bat and config.sys
 files, and DEBUG to low level format MFM hard drives. ;)

 And nostagia hits, launch a cmd prompt and enter edlin. Hmm an error
 message that c:\Windows\SysWOW64\edlin.exe isn't compatible with 64bit
 Windows. What the??? Says I should contact the vendor to see if a 64 bit
 version is available...

   wendt@steelhead:~$ edlin
 edlin: command not found

 Not installed on my machine.  ;-)

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[Emc-users] how to setup 5i25 as parallel card

2014-12-19 Thread kqt4at5v
I have been using using just the motherboard parallel port to drive my 4 
axis stepper board. I now want to use a 5i25 to drive the stepper board.
Can you point me to a how to doc.



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Re: [Emc-users] how to setup 5i25 as parallel card

2014-12-19 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:

 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:21:17 -0600 (CST)
 From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Emc-users] how to setup 5i25 as parallel card
 
 I have been using using just the motherboard parallel port to drive my 4
 axis stepper board. I now want to use a 5i25 to drive the stepper board.
 Can you point me to a how to doc.


The first thing is to see if theres standard configuration that matches the 
pinout of your 4 axis stepper board. Take a look at the pinout files for these 
standard parallel port compatible 5i25 configurations:

5i25_dmmbob1x2.pin
5i25_g540x2.pin
5i25_mx3660x2.pin
5i25_prob_rfx2.pin
5i25_r990x2.pin

(they dont have to be an exact match, encoders and PWMs can be disabled, 
allowing the pins to be used as inputs or outputs but you want the step/dir 
pins to be correct)


These files are part of Mesa's 5I25 firmware distribution in

http://www.mesanet.com/software/parallel/5i25.zip




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Re: [Emc-users] G edit and velocity

2014-12-19 Thread Jack Coats
ed was my preferred on CP/M in the day when I didn't have access to wordstar.
ed or edline on DOS was OK.
On Windows I prefer notepad++ (notepad-plus-plus.org), a free editor
that is really simple to use and does proper g-code highlighting.
On Unix/Linux I go to vi, yes there is a vi-vs-emacs cult war, but for
me, vi is simple and I can remember the subset of control commands
easily.  Unix/Linux has ed also, but I prefer vi's full character
screen.

The whole object is to use what is productive, easy for you, and
doesn't get in the way.  I tried to be able to use (1) what I have,
then (2) what I preferred.

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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus

2014-12-19 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 12/18/2014 03:53 AM, 77dab wrote:
 Hi all,
 I have on my hand some mitsubishi VFD with 550w winches.
 I would like to try to move them using LinuxCNC.
 the thing is not meant to be Real time, and I've read the modbus module
 lives in User space and it's not RT.
 So, my question:
 Since it isn't RT, can I drive the rs485 thru a USB-rs485 converter,
 using a laptop?

 Thanks, Davide.

In my opinion, USB has a lot of Windowy Plug-N-Playey Consumery fluffy 
overhead that doesn't help with machine control. My guess is that a 
regular serial port would be much better. Other than that, I have no 
opinion.


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Re: [Emc-users] how to setup 5i25 as parallel card

2014-12-19 Thread kqt4at5v

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014, Peter C. Wallace wrote:


On Fri, 19 Dec 2014, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:


Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:21:17 -0600 (CST)
From: kqt4a...@gmail.com
Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Emc-users] how to setup 5i25 as parallel card

I have been using using just the motherboard parallel port to drive my 4
axis stepper board. I now want to use a 5i25 to drive the stepper board.
Can you point me to a how to doc.



The first thing is to see if theres standard configuration that matches the
pinout of your 4 axis stepper board. Take a look at the pinout files for these
standard parallel port compatible 5i25 configurations:

5i25_dmmbob1x2.pin
5i25_g540x2.pin
5i25_mx3660x2.pin
5i25_prob_rfx2.pin
5i25_r990x2.pin

(they dont have to be an exact match, encoders and PWMs can be disabled,
allowing the pins to be used as inputs or outputs but you want the step/dir
pins to be correct)


These files are part of Mesa's 5I25 firmware distribution in

http://www.mesanet.com/software/parallel/5i25.zip




The board I have is the Probotix PBX-RF RF Isolated CNC Breakout Board. 
The 5i25_prob_rfx2.pin looks close. I attached my stepconf file. I do not 
know if we are allowed to post with attachments.?xml version=1.0 ?
stepconf
  property name=ahomepos type=int value=0/
  property name=ahomesw type=int value=0/
  property name=ahomevel type=float value=0.05/
  property name=alatchdir type=int value=0/
  property name=aleadscrew type=int value=8/
  property name=amaxacc type=int value=1200/
  property name=amaxlim type=int value=/
  property name=amaxvel type=int value=360/
  property name=amicrostep type=int value=2/
  property name=aminlim type=int value=-/
  property name=apulleyden type=int value=1/
  property name=apulleynum type=int value=1/
  property name=ascale type=int value=0/
  property name=asteprev type=int value=200/
  property name=axes type=int value=0/
  property name=classicladder type=bool value=True/
  property name=createshortcut type=bool value=False/
  property name=createsymlink type=bool value=False/
  property name=customhal type=bool value=False/
  property name=digitsin type=float value=15.0/
  property name=digitsout type=float value=15.0/
  property name=dirhold type=float value=200.0/
  property name=dirsetup type=float value=200.0/
  property name=drivertype type=string value=xylotex/
  property name=floatsin type=float value=10.0/
  property name=floatsout type=float value=10.0/
  property name=halui type=bool value=True/
  property name=ioaddr type=string value=0x378/
  property name=ioaddr2 type=string value=Enter Address/
  property name=ioaddr3 type=string value=Enter Address/
  property name=ladderconnect type=bool value=True/
  property name=ladderhaltype type=int value=0/
  property name=laddername type=string value=custom.clp/
  property name=latency type=float value=2.0/
  property name=machinename type=string value=FireballCNCV90/
  property name=manualtoolchange type=bool value=True/
  property name=md5sums type=eval 
value=[('/home/rray/emc2/configs/FireballCNCV90/README', 
'2d8911382944ec2052b1716aee6c8f96'), 
('/home/rray/emc2/configs/FireballCNCV90/FireballCNCV90.ini', 
'8b8f9eca9c0967ffb91a117d583f89e4'), 
('/home/rray/emc2/configs/FireballCNCV90/FireballCNCV90.hal', 
'dd3d094b88935f440df80bb0e1881b19')]/
  property name=modbus type=bool value=False/
  property name=number_pports type=int value=1/
  property name=period type=int value=25000/
  property name=pin1 type=string value=unused-output/
  property name=pin10 type=string value=both-home-x/
  property name=pin10inv type=bool value=False/
  property name=pin11 type=string value=both-home-y/
  property name=pin11inv type=bool value=False/
  property name=pin12 type=string value=unused-input/
  property name=pin12inv type=bool value=False/
  property name=pin13 type=string value=unused-input/
  property name=pin13inv type=bool value=False/
  property name=pin14 type=string value=unused-output/
  property name=pin14inv type=bool value=False/
  property name=pin15 type=string value=unused-input/
  property name=pin15inv type=bool value=False/
  property name=pin16 type=string value=unused-output/
  property name=pin16inv type=bool value=False/
  property name=pin17 type=string value=unused-output/
  property name=pin17inv type=bool value=False/
  property name=pin1inv type=bool value=False/
  property name=pin2 type=string value=xstep/
  property name=pin2inv type=bool value=False/
  property name=pin3 type=string value=xdir/
  property name=pin3inv type=bool value=True/
  property name=pin4 type=string value=ystep/
  property name=pin4inv type=bool value=False/
  property name=pin5 type=string value=ydir/
  property name=pin5inv type=bool value=False/
  property name=pin6 type=string value=zstep/
  property name=pin6inv type=bool value=False/
  property name=pin7 type=string value=zdir/
  property name=pin7inv 

Re: [Emc-users] Modbus

2014-12-19 Thread Todd Zuercher
For my setup it often takes a second or two for all the drives to respond to 
the start command and send back the I am starting but not up to speed yet 
signal to Linuxcnc.  I was able to connect the VFDs state signal to a image_u32 
in pyvcp, to give a visual of the drives state, (fault,fault-locked, 
start-pending, stopped, dc-braking, run-at-0hz, running at speed, accelerating, 
decelerating, current-limiting, decel-override, and lower trans. switching-on). 
 Kind of gives you a warm feeling to see all those brightly colored and labeled 
boxs blinking, changing colors, and words when the motors turn on/off.

- Original Message -
From: 77dab 77...@tiscali.it
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 4:19:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Modbus

Yes, I know, I already made a Java software to control independently 8 
of those VFD via modbus, and it works. They can run up to 38600baud. 
what timing do you think i can expect from a sistem like that in 
LinuxCNC? something like 10 VFD messages per second? or better?

On 18/12/2014 14:57, Todd Zuercher wrote:
 I am controling 8 VFDs on a single machine with Linuxchc through one 
 USB-RS485 converter (from Automation direct).  No real problems for me except 
 some random com errors.  It works good enough though.  I have not had to 
 restart or anything like that because of them.  They do fill up an error log 
 pretty fast when running from terminal.  It can be a little slow to respond 
 sometimes, reading and writing to 32 different registers at 9600bps plus 
 rewrites for bad com.

 It can be a little tricky to set up, you have to know all the modbus details 
 about your drives (every manufacturers drives are different), and configure 
 mb2hal to use them (there is nothing automagic here).

 - Original Message -
 From: 77dab 77...@tiscali.it
 To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:53:40 AM
 Subject: [Emc-users] Modbus

 Hi all,
 I have on my hand some mitsubishi VFD with 550w winches.
 I would like to try to move them using LinuxCNC.
 the thing is not meant to be Real time, and I've read the modbus module
 lives in User space and it's not RT.
 So, my question:
 Since it isn't RT, can I drive the rs485 thru a USB-rs485 converter,
 using a laptop?

 Thanks, Davide.

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[Emc-users] S96 in simulator

2014-12-19 Thread Andrew
Hello,
There's a strange behavior with S96 in lathe simulator, 2.6.5
I enter S96 S60 M03 in MDI and decrease X, spindle RPM changes up to max
2500rpm then it suddenly shows negative value -2500.8. When I use S96 D2000
or D2500 it behaves correct. But D3000 gives the same error at 2500rpm.
This looks like a bug? And why exactly 2500? I could not find this value in
the config (attached).
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Re: [Emc-users] touch off doesn't shift loaded paths

2014-12-19 Thread Axel Zöllich
 A var file that's not writable can cause this.
 Sometimes people get into this situation or similar ones by running
 linuxcnc with sudo, which you SHOULD NEVER do.

That's quite a good idea.
I'm not running linuxcnc as root but as an ordinary user. But the config is 
stored in another users home.
 
I'll check next time I'm in the workshop.

What files linuxcnc likes write access to during execution?



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Re: [Emc-users] touch off doesn't shift loaded paths

2014-12-19 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 12/19/14 1:13 PM, Axel Zöllich wrote:
 A var file that's not writable can cause this.
 Sometimes people get into this situation or similar ones by running
 linuxcnc with sudo, which you SHOULD NEVER do.

 That's quite a good idea.
 I'm not running linuxcnc as root but as an ordinary user. But the config is
 stored in another users home.

 I'll check next time I'm in the workshop.

 What files linuxcnc likes write access to during execution?

The parameters file, aka vars file named by [RS274NGC]PARAMETER_FILE, 
and optionally the tool file named by [EMCIO]TOOL_TABLE.

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[Emc-users] Mb2hal?

2014-12-19 Thread Todd Zuercher
Is it possible to make Mb2hal only make reads and writes of the nessisary 
registers, rather than all the registers used all the time? 

Just curious. I am using Mb2hal to control 8 VFDs on a gang router, and the 
slightly awkward way these drives must be addressed causes Mb2hal to have to 
make a lot of seemingly unnecessary reads and writes. 

Each drives registers must be addressed individually (can't send one write to 
all the drives). To oporate the drives, I have to write to 3 different non 
consecutive registers, and read a 3rd block of 6 registers, all of that times 8 
drives. I am pretty sure the 3 writes, do not need to be repeated, more than 
occasionally if at all. The read does need to be done regularly. 

The 3 reads are: 
writing 0 to register #48 - to unlock the drives mb control (only needs to be 
done once, or if serial link is lost) 
writing to register #1 - to start/stop the spindle (only needs writteen tp when 
changing state) 
writing to register #40 - to set the VFD frequency (only needs written to when 
changing the speed) 

The read is : 
reading registers #24-32 (this has to be read at least every 10 seconds to keep 
the drive unlocked (see the first write) also contains all drive status info. 
I don't think all of these would need to be read every time but, it is easier 
to do 1 large block than to pick and choose. 


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Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal?

2014-12-19 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 12/19/14 2:48 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote:
 Is it possible to make Mb2hal only make reads and writes of the nessisary 
 registers, rather than all the registers used all the time?

I don't know mb2hal at all, but looking at mb2hal_HOWTO.ini i see 
there's a MAX_UPDATE_RATE for each transaction.  Maybe you could reduce 
the update rate of the transactions you don't care as much about?

If you need finer control over when reads and writes happen, you're 
probably better off writing a custom component (in C or python or the 
halcompile language) that does exactly what you need.


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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus

2014-12-19 Thread 77dab
Thanks everybody for your answers.
Things are clearer now.

On 19/12/2014 20:27, Todd Zuercher wrote:
 For my setup it often takes a second or two for all the drives to respond to 
 the start command and send back the I am starting but not up to speed yet 
 signal to Linuxcnc.  I was able to connect the VFDs state signal to a 
 image_u32 in pyvcp, to give a visual of the drives state, 
 (fault,fault-locked, start-pending, stopped, dc-braking, run-at-0hz, running 
 at speed, accelerating, decelerating, current-limiting, decel-override, and 
 lower trans. switching-on).  Kind of gives you a warm feeling to see all 
 those brightly colored and labeled boxs blinking, changing colors, and words 
 when the motors turn on/off.

 - Original Message -
 From: 77dab 77...@tiscali.it
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 4:19:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Modbus

 Yes, I know, I already made a Java software to control independently 8
 of those VFD via modbus, and it works. They can run up to 38600baud.
 what timing do you think i can expect from a sistem like that in
 LinuxCNC? something like 10 VFD messages per second? or better?

 On 18/12/2014 14:57, Todd Zuercher wrote:
 I am controling 8 VFDs on a single machine with Linuxchc through one 
 USB-RS485 converter (from Automation direct).  No real problems for me 
 except some random com errors.  It works good enough though.  I have not had 
 to restart or anything like that because of them.  They do fill up an error 
 log pretty fast when running from terminal.  It can be a little slow to 
 respond sometimes, reading and writing to 32 different registers at 9600bps 
 plus rewrites for bad com.

 It can be a little tricky to set up, you have to know all the modbus details 
 about your drives (every manufacturers drives are different), and configure 
 mb2hal to use them (there is nothing automagic here).

 - Original Message -
 From: 77dab 77...@tiscali.it
 To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:53:40 AM
 Subject: [Emc-users] Modbus

 Hi all,
 I have on my hand some mitsubishi VFD with 550w winches.
 I would like to try to move them using LinuxCNC.
 the thing is not meant to be Real time, and I've read the modbus module
 lives in User space and it's not RT.
 So, my question:
 Since it isn't RT, can I drive the rs485 thru a USB-rs485 converter,
 using a laptop?

 Thanks, Davide.

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Re: [Emc-users] how to setup 5i25 as parallel card

2014-12-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 December 2014 12:21:17 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine
And Gene did reply:
 I have been using using just the motherboard parallel port to drive my
 4 axis stepper board. I now want to use a 5i25 to drive the stepper
 board. Can you point me to a how to doc.
 
Short of asking PCW, which you will anyway, the best docs I've found are 
in the Integrators manual, a pdf you can get the wiki.linuxcnc.org.
They are quite concise, but a repeat read of that section will often 
answer a question that will come up.

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Re: [Emc-users] how to setup 5i25 as parallel card

2014-12-19 Thread kqt4at5v
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014, Gene Heskett wrote:

 On Friday 19 December 2014 12:21:17 kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine
 And Gene did reply:
 I have been using using just the motherboard parallel port to drive my
 4 axis stepper board. I now want to use a 5i25 to drive the stepper
 board. Can you point me to a how to doc.

 Short of asking PCW, which you will anyway, the best docs I've found are
 in the Integrators manual, a pdf you can get the wiki.linuxcnc.org.
 They are quite concise, but a repeat read of that section will often
 answer a question that will come up.


Thanks, I will see if I can find what I need in them.

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Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal?

2014-12-19 Thread Todd Zuercher
Problem is I don't think I know enough about either C or Python to do it.

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To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:57:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Mb2hal?

On 12/19/14 2:48 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote:
 Is it possible to make Mb2hal only make reads and writes of the nessisary 
 registers, rather than all the registers used all the time?

I don't know mb2hal at all, but looking at mb2hal_HOWTO.ini i see 
there's a MAX_UPDATE_RATE for each transaction.  Maybe you could reduce 
the update rate of the transactions you don't care as much about?

If you need finer control over when reads and writes happen, you're 
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