Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Fujitsu Siemens FUTRO S400

2015-12-28 Thread Paul Lacatus
Yes, the memory is tight , it is using a small amount in swap,  I will upgrade 
to 1GB soon. 

Please indicate me where can I find a procedure to transfer the setting for my 
MF 70 from my old Linux CNC with 2.6 . I have found some paragraphs about and I 
have understood that is not a copy only procedure. Some more details ?

Thank you 

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> On 29 dec. 2015, at 04:19, andy pugh  wrote:
> 
>> On 28 December 2015 at 18:24, Paul Lacatus  wrote:
>> On the latency test I got 49900 no jitter on servo thread and 25000ns on 
>> base thread. The test was done on heavy load , top was showing around 9 on 5 
>> minutes.
>> 
>> It is usable ?
> 
> It should be OK as far as latency is concerned. Memory might be tight,
> but the only way to tell is to try it.
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Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Fujitsu Siemens FUTRO S400

2015-12-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 December 2015 at 18:24, Paul Lacatus  wrote:
> On the latency test I got 49900 no jitter on servo thread and 25000ns on base 
> thread. The test was done on heavy load , top was showing around 9 on 5 
> minutes.
>
> It is usable ?

It should be OK as far as latency is concerned. Memory might be tight,
but the only way to tell is to try it.

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Re: [Emc-users] Advice needed

2015-12-28 Thread andy pugh
On 29 December 2015 at 00:30, CNC  wrote:

> Would LinuxCNC be a good idea for this running as a PLC?

A PLC might be better.
LinuxCNC has a built-in software PLC, but the question would have to
be what the LinuxCNC part is adding to the system.

One area that it might win would be easy selection of setup files for
jobs from a familiar interface.

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[Emc-users] Advice needed

2015-12-28 Thread CNC
Hello all

I have an old beam saw that I need to replace the control on. It's all digital 
IO.

Would LinuxCNC be a good idea for this running as a PLC?

I was thinking of using this as a text to get to learn LinuxCNC for when I need 
to do a CNC router.

If this will work, where do I start?
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Re: [Emc-users] Test

2015-12-28 Thread R.L. Wurdack
It is quite mysterioso.  I've noticed the same occasional failing on a 
couple of my (other) listservers (not sourceforge).

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[Emc-users] Test

2015-12-28 Thread CNC
Hi All

Just trying to figure out why my emails don't show up.
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Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Fujitsu Siemens FUTRO S400

2015-12-28 Thread Paul Lacatus
I have upgraded memory to 512MB replaced the 1GB cf card with a 16 GB card and 
installed linuxcnc 2.7.3 . On the latency test I got 49900 no jitter on servo 
thread and 25000ns on base thread. The test was done on heavy load , top was 
showing around 9 on 5 minutes. 

It is usable ? How can I transfer the settings for my MF 70 from my old 2.6 
Linux CNc ?

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> On 7 dec. 2015, at 20:01, Paul Lacatus  wrote:
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7 dec. 2015, at 18:27, andy pugh  wrote:
>> 
>> On 7 December 2015 at 14:22, Paul Lacatus (Personal)
>>  wrote:
>>> Right now the computer is a tower PC with a celeron 900MHz that is bigger
>>> than the MF70
>> 
>> 
>> An alternative to this if the disparate sizes of the machine and the
>> controller are a problem, might be one of the VESA mount mini-ITX
>> computer cases, and a known-good mini-ITX board.
>> 
>> Then you can hide the PC behind the minotaur. (or, for less Classical
>> danger, behind the monitor (I liked the typo)).
>> 
>> For even more littleness, the BeagleBone Black and Machinekit might be
>> an option.
>> 
>> 
> My first idea was to use a beaglebone black but it needs a cape to emulate 
> the parallel port and also a hdmi monitor. For a try with the thin client I 
> need only a 8GB CF card. I think I'll try. I think it have 512 MB ram since 
> it was running XP . What version of linuxcnc is recommended ?
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Re: [Emc-users] Waterjet at TX/RX Labs

2015-12-28 Thread John Thornton
Very nice! What electronics did you use to control the axes?

On 12/27/2015 10:42 PM, Chris Kelley wrote:
> There's now one more LinuxCNC waterjet in the world. Retrofit of a c. 2000
> Flow Waterjet, 4' x 4' cutting area and a 40K psi intensifier.
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> This video was from yesterday (Dec. 26):
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Re: [Emc-users] Rewiring the BP

2015-12-28 Thread John Thornton
I was in a plant and the maintenance guy was bitching about blowing up a 
plc he just hooked up and I asked him where he hooked it up... he showed 
me where the breaker was and it was on the 277 lighting circuit of a 3 
phase panel.

On 12/27/2015 9:25 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
> Well, if you ran a neutral to the BP what would you use it for ??  :-)
>
> It isn't required by the NEC.
>
> What you can't do is to tie a 120 VAC load between a hot wire and the
> protective ground (which JT is not doing ).
>
> I do a lot of machine wiring and I was redoing a machine for a major
> electrical manufacturer in the US (although this particular plant does
> hydraulics)
> and the plant maintenance nitwits tied a relay coil between a 480 volt
> hot leg and the protective ground because they did not have a neutral in
> the control cabinet and they had a 277 volt relay!  8-O
>
> I ripped out the added "circuitry" and wrote a note to the maintenance
> mgr and explained that if the protective ground wire had became
> disconnected from the power feed that the machine frame would become hot
> to ground through the 277 volt relay coil!
>
> Dave
>
>
> On 12/27/2015 6:21 PM, John Thornton wrote:
>> The VFD filter has no place to connect a neutral... only hots and ground.
>>
>> On 12/27/2015 5:10 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Sunday 27 December 2015 17:07:15 John Thornton wrote:
>>>
 I've built a bunch of automation machines for Briggs and Stratton and
 they never pull a neutral only 3 240v hots and a ground. We always
 have a control transformer for the 120v stuff... I have the same here
 now.
>>> After an hours searching thru it, and its the 1996 issue, a 240 volt
>>> single phase line w/o a neutral is legal if it goes only to that machine
>>> AND the machine was designed for that power configuration, eg is
>>> designed to run on 240 for everything.
>>>
>>> IOW if it goes anyplace else in the building besides that machine, it has
>>> to have a neutral too.  And of coarse grounded is a given.
>>>
>>> So in your case, you can utilize a 240-120 stepdown that is NOT an
>>> autoformer.  And from whats been said, that is what you are doing.
>>>
>>> However, speaking as a C.E.T., not having the neutral so that the filters
>>> you are installing can ship their noise back up that separate circuit,
>>> effectively isolated from what is supposed to be a nice quiet ground,
>>> does seem like it would put a lot of the absorbed noises into the
>>> grounding system. And unless putting the filters in fixes it, making me
>>> just a worry wart, I believe this may be much of your noise problem.
>>>
>>> Since we've come 19 years into the future since my copy of the NEC was
>>> put to bed & sold, with more efficient (and more noise sensitive) ways
>>> to do things now, I'd expect that a current copy of the NEC would more
>>> than likely have some additions designed to head off problems like this.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately a current copy is now at or somewhat north of a 120 dollar
>>> bill.
>>>
 On 12/27/2015 3:52 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 27 December 2015 16:17:20 John Thornton wrote:
>> well there is no neutral because it's a 240vac circuit only...
> The only reason there is not a neutral is that the wire was never
> pulled. And I am not sure that missing neutral is NEC kosher.  My
> copy is now 17 years old, so I think I'd check a newer one to be
> sure.  With it, you wouldn't need the stepdown and isolation tranny
> because you would then have a pair of 120 circuits available in the
> machine.  But those loads MUST return on the neutral, they cannot
> use the static ground.
>
>> On 12/27/2015 12:16 PM, Bruce Layne wrote:
>>> On 12/26/2015 06:51 PM, John Thornton wrote:
 There is no neutral in the machine, only L1 L2 and GND. The
 Neutral for the house is bonded to ground at the panels.
>>> Electrician's  Joke:
>>>
>>> Q: What's the difference between neutral and ground?
>>> A: About six inches.
>>>
>>> There's a very good reason the return current is carried on the
>>> neutral and the ground should not carry any current in normal
>>> circumstances, but we do need to understand that electrons don't
>>> care about our conventions.  They're just as happy returning via
>>> the ground wire.  They don't know that the green wire is off
>>> limits for all but emergency traffic.
>>>
>>> The concept of ground/neutral functional equivalence is also a
>>> real life saver for anyone who might otherwise consider standing
>>> barefoot on a basement floor while hot wiring any line powered AC
>>> circuit.
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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