Re: [Emc-users] PCIe parallel port card suggestion

2024-01-01 Thread Sam Sokolik
I would wait for Jon E.. I bet he has a list of working pcie with his
interfaces...

sam

On Mon, Jan 1, 2024 at 1:50 PM Tomaz T.  wrote:

> Thank you for suggestion 7I92TH is now actual version I guess?
> I'm using Universal PWM Controller from Pico, this should work OK together?
>
>
> >I'd be more inclined to change over to the MESA 7i92H and get two parallel
> >port cards with all the high end capabilities of that product for smoother
> >stepping etc.  I did and haven't looked back.
> >John
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Capto

2024-01-01 Thread Sam Sokolik
boy - there doesn't seem to be much info on that shape.. It does look like
it could be machined/ground with spindle synced motion..

Interesting..

sam

On Mon, Jan 1, 2024 at 11:30 AM andy pugh  wrote:

> Does anyone have the dimensions and profile specification for the capto
> system?
> I think that it has a 1.4 degree taper (though I don't know if that is
> included angle or half-angle) but the triangle shape is harder to
> find.
>
> I am curious whether it can be machined with spindle synched offsets
> using LinuxCNC.
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Damaged an SSR

2024-01-01 Thread gene heskett

On 1/1/24 11:38, Alan Condit wrote:

Hi Gene,
I had already tested my Router (also a Hitachi mv12) in a different 
circuit and knew it was working. The SSR that went bye-bye was one that 
I bought several years ago (used on EBay). So, after your reply, I 
checked the signal from the 7i76e to the SSR and (thank goodness) it was 
good. So I just went ahead and replaced the SSR with a new one. Now 
everything is working.
This SSR is just controlling a line outlet. I had been using the old one 
for sometime without any problems. I have never tripped a breaker. The 
line into the cabinet feeds an SE600-48v switcher, a small 5v supply, a 
small 24v supply and the SSR controlled line outlet.

Thanks,
Alan


*From: *gene heskett 
*Subject: **Re: [Emc-users] Damaged an SSR*
*Date: *December 31, 2023 at 1:42:07 PM CST
*To: *emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net


On 12/31/23 12:50, condit.alan--- via Emc-users wrote:
I was using an SSR to turn on the spindle on my PCBMill. By mistake I 
reached over and turned off the switch on the router while it was 
turned on. When I tried to turn it back on, it no longer worked. I am 
hoping that I just blew out the SSR and not the 7i76e. I have a spare 
SSR. Is there any precaution I should take for the future?
The only scenario I can imagine is only valid if the router has a soft 
start circuit like a hitachi mv12 has.  Turning it back on before it 
got stopped might damage that circuit in the router.  Does it work 
from its own switch if plugged straight into the line?


I use big HoymC or Crydom SSR's all over the place but I also trigger 
them on-off in sequence from timers in my .hal files.  Usually in an 
attempt to start motor supplies which if just slammed with a 
mechanical switch, will instantly clear a 30 amp breaker from the turn 
on in-rush, so when I do an on, they get power for the first 4 seconds 
thru a 50 ohm 200 watt resistor that a second SSR shorts out 4 seconds 
later after the filters are pretty well charged. With the motor itself 
limited to about 2x nameplate FLA, I can run my cnc'd G0704 on a legal 
for 10 gauge wire, 20 amp breaker.  At turn off I throw the big 
resistor back in series for a second then drop the other SSR to turn 
it all off. Been doing that w/o any SSR failures I caused for about a 
decade. Had a nearby lightning strike blow one of then to the 
permanently on state, the only failure I've had.


Does it still work if plugged in direct?  And if the SSR is switching 
a duplex does a test lamp work plugged in beside the router?



Alan
Chuckle. I went a little overboard when I was making a supply for the 
spindle motor on a G0704, which is a dressed up treadmill motor rated at 
1hp at 90 volts and 9.7 amps grizzly was abusing with a cheap SCR based 
controller.  So I raided one of my ex employees for some of his 
unfinished projects and came away with some big toroid transformers and 
a grocery sack of 6500 uf 65 volt caps, basically making a stacked pair 
of 63 volt supplies using about 16 of the caps for about 124 volts to 
run the motor with, a good solid src to feed one of the PICO pwm-servo 
drivers with. switching all that on along with the inrush of a couple 
big stepper supplies all at once, crowbars a 30 amp breaker in the 
service box that feeds just that 4 plex.  So I had to stage the turn-on 
by switching the power with a 60 amp SSR feeding a 50 ohm 200 watt 
resistor in series with the line, charging all those caps a bit more 
gently, then 4 seconds later, its safe to turn on another SSR that 
shorts the 50 ohm. I now do the same thing with a 70 ohm 50 watt 
resistor to soften the switchers inrush. The pwm-servo current limits at 
around 18 amps if the motor gets hung, and a NEC legal 20 amp breaker in 
that slot of the service stays up. The whole thing works so silently and 
well that my only clue the motor is about to stall, is the squeak of the 
iron in the motor when that 18 amp limit kicks in. No slowdown or other 
change in the sound of its running prior to that point, and I'm getting 
at least 3.5 horses out of it. For close to a decade now. Why I haven't 
chewed up the gears in the mill head is beyond me, the gears are nylon!


That controller is a 4 quadrant controller. And I enjoy doing tricks in 
hal, one of which is the use of a mux-4, which if it doing 3000 revs I 
can reach up and turn the gears shift knob, which untally's the gear its 
in which brings the motor down to about 30 rpm before I can tyurn the 
knob another 10 degrees, so I can switch gears while its running at full 
song but while I'm turning the gear shift knob its just creeping, too 
slow to hurt anything the other gear meshes perfectly without me having 
to grb the spindle and turn it till the gears engage, then in the last 
degree to the stop, the tally switch for that gear closes and 150 
milliseconds later the spindle is turning 1500 revs in low gear.
Similar hal trickery also allows the spindle to reverse when rigid 
tapping in under 400 

Re: [Emc-users] PCIe parallel port card suggestion

2024-01-01 Thread Tomaz T .
Thank you for suggestion 7I92TH is now actual version I guess?
I'm using Universal PWM Controller from Pico, this should work OK together?

 
>I'd be more inclined to change over to the MESA 7i92H and get two parallel
>port cards with all the high end capabilities of that product for smoother
>stepping etc.  I did and haven't looked back.
>John



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Re: [Emc-users] PCIe parallel port card suggestion

2024-01-01 Thread John Dammeyer
I'd be more inclined to change over to the MESA 7i92H and get two parallel
port cards with all the high end capabilities of that product for smoother
stepping etc.  I did and haven't looked back.
John


> -Original Message-
> From: Tomaz T. [mailto:tomaz_...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: January 1, 2024 10:47 AM
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Emc-users] PCIe parallel port card suggestion
> 
> As I had to change computer with a newer one, and onboard parallel port
> isn't working, I need PCI express parallel port card.
> Which chipset or brand is verified to work well with lcnc?
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[Emc-users] PCIe parallel port card suggestion

2024-01-01 Thread Tomaz T .
As I had to change computer with a newer one, and onboard parallel port isn't 
working, I need PCI express parallel port card.
Which chipset or brand is verified to work well with lcnc?

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[Emc-users] Capto

2024-01-01 Thread andy pugh
Does anyone have the dimensions and profile specification for the capto system?
I think that it has a 1.4 degree taper (though I don't know if that is
included angle or half-angle) but the triangle shape is harder to
find.

I am curious whether it can be machined with spindle synched offsets
using LinuxCNC.

-- 
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912


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Re: [Emc-users] Damaged an SSR

2024-01-01 Thread Alan Condit via Emc-users
Hi Gene,
I had already tested my Router (also a Hitachi mv12) in a different circuit and 
knew it was working. The SSR that went bye-bye was one that I bought several 
years ago (used on EBay). So, after your reply, I checked the signal from the 
7i76e to the SSR and (thank goodness) it was good. So I just went ahead and 
replaced the SSR with a new one. Now everything is working.
This SSR is just controlling a line outlet. I had been using the old one for 
sometime without any problems. I have never tripped a breaker. The line into 
the cabinet feeds an SE600-48v switcher, a small 5v supply, a small 24v supply 
and the SSR controlled line outlet.
Thanks,
Alan

> From: gene heskett 
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Damaged an SSR
> Date: December 31, 2023 at 1:42:07 PM CST
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> 
> 
> On 12/31/23 12:50, condit.alan--- via Emc-users wrote:
>> I was using an SSR to turn on the spindle on my PCBMill. By mistake I 
>> reached over and turned off the switch on the router while it was turned on. 
>> When I tried to turn it back on, it no longer worked. I am hoping that I 
>> just blew out the SSR and not the 7i76e. I have a spare SSR. Is there any 
>> precaution I should take for the future?
> The only scenario I can imagine is only valid if the router has a soft start 
> circuit like a hitachi mv12 has.  Turning it back on before it got stopped 
> might damage that circuit in the router.  Does it work from its own switch if 
> plugged straight into the line?
> 
> I use big HoymC or Crydom SSR's all over the place but I also trigger them 
> on-off in sequence from timers in my .hal files.  Usually in an attempt to 
> start motor supplies which if just slammed with a mechanical switch, will 
> instantly clear a 30 amp breaker from the turn on in-rush, so when I do an 
> on, they get power for the first 4 seconds thru a 50 ohm 200 watt resistor 
> that a second SSR shorts out 4 seconds later after the filters are pretty 
> well charged. With the motor itself limited to about 2x nameplate FLA, I can 
> run my cnc'd G0704 on a legal for 10 gauge wire, 20 amp breaker.  At turn off 
> I throw the big resistor back in series for a second then drop the other SSR 
> to turn it all off. Been doing that w/o any SSR failures I caused for about a 
> decade. Had a nearby lightning strike blow one of then to the permanently on 
> state, the only failure I've had.
> 
> Does it still work if plugged in direct?  And if the SSR is switching a 
> duplex does a test lamp work plugged in beside the router?
> 
>> Alan
>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Cheers, Gene Heskett.


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