Re: [Emc-users] Capto
and and... If the receiver shape is just scaled along its taper - then the work is done with the hal component.. But would we be that lucky? sam On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 6:46 PM andy pugh wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 at 00:36, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > https://www.youtube.com/shorts/23bEsKMNJH0 > > Indeed. Making Capto receivers would be an ideal way to show off with > LinuxCNC. We just need that pesky equation. > > -- > atp > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and > lunatics." > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Capto
On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 at 00:36, Sam Sokolik wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/shorts/23bEsKMNJH0 Indeed. Making Capto receivers would be an ideal way to show off with LinuxCNC. We just need that pesky equation. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Capto
Having a decently high count encoder on the spindle - you don't need a 'servo' spindle.. You can do fancy stuff like... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/23bEsKMNJH0 > In that event, stretch the definition of spindle to include drives > similar to the A drive on the G0704, or the B drive on my 6040. > > Those are both 3 phase stepper/servo's of 3nm power, both driving an > rvs30 series worm drive for a 5/1 reduction. These worms do have a half > degree of backlash that may not be wholly consistent, but I'm carving > buttress threads with them in synchronized motions, works fine. Top > speeds of something in the 400 rpm range. At a speed your Z drive can > track is a Sunday drive for that combo. > > We have the trig functions, and a simple multiply based on the > remainder(mod) could easily return a triangular shape if its a sine. I'm > positive I could come up with something on the 6040 doable with its 24k > rev spindle and a CBN wheel. Not fast mind you, but doable. CBN is > gawdawful $$$ and fragile in shapes and sizes I've found but it will > "get the job done". It is much like diamond but cuts HSS w/o destroying > both as there is no carbon in it. Leaves no wire edge to be easily > broken off and dulled, HSS is finished like a shaving mirror. All it > should take is somebody better at math than me. > > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Capto
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 at 13:19, Adam McLeod wrote: > > If > you search "capto iso polygon shank" in duckduckgo search engine right > now, you may find that there is a "preview" of that standard in a pdf > that probably has the details you're looking for near the top of the > search results. I have found all of part 2, and the first 5 pages of part 1. I think that the actual shape definition is in the second half of part 1. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Outside of machine limit bug?
> On 2 Jan 2024, at 20:10, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > > ? There should be a re-check box. I don’t understand why nobody else can see it. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Outside of machine limit bug?
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[Emc-users] Capto
And here is a Capto profile being ground; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALRAiiMxTnk Roland On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 at 18:02, gene heskett wrote: > On 1/2/24 08:17, Adam McLeod wrote: > > Fortunately, Sandvik standardized the Capto shank via ISO 26623. It is > > called a "Polygonal taper interface with flange contact surface". If > > you search "capto iso polygon shank" in duckduckgo search engine right > > now, you may find that there is a "preview" of that standard in a pdf > > that probably has the details you're looking for near the top of the > > search results. > > > > On 2024-01-01 9:04 p.m., Sam Sokolik wrote: > >> boy - there doesn't seem to be much info on that shape.. It does look > >> like > >> it could be machined/ground with spindle synced motion.. > >> > In that event, stretch the definition of spindle to include drives > similar to the A drive on the G0704, or the B drive on my 6040. > > Those are both 3 phase stepper/servo's of 3nm power, both driving an > rvs30 series worm drive for a 5/1 reduction. These worms do have a half > degree of backlash that may not be wholly consistent, but I'm carving > buttress threads with them in synchronized motions, works fine. Top > speeds of something in the 400 rpm range. At a speed your Z drive can > track is a Sunday drive for that combo. > > We have the trig functions, and a simple multiply based on the > remainder(mod) could easily return a triangular shape if its a sine. I'm > positive I could come up with something on the 6040 doable with its 24k > rev spindle and a CBN wheel. Not fast mind you, but doable. CBN is > gawdawful $$$ and fragile in shapes and sizes I've found but it will > "get the job done". It is much like diamond but cuts HSS w/o destroying > both as there is no carbon in it. Leaves no wire edge to be easily > broken off and dulled, HSS is finished like a shaving mirror. All it > should take is somebody better at math than me. > > > > > > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > Cheers, Gene Heskett. > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. > - Louis D. Brandeis > > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] PCIe parallel port card suggestion
Meant to say; The onboard (built in) parallel port of a mother board isn't a PCI device so lspci -v won't show anything about it. This command should show your built in parallel port address. cat /proc/ioports | grep parport Todd Zuercher P. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 -Original Message- From: Todd Zuercher Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2024 11:04 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PCIe parallel port card suggestion [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. The onboard (built in) parallel port of a mother board isn't a PCI device so won't show anything about it. This command should show your built in parallel port address. cat /proc/ioports | grep parport Todd Zuercher P. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 -Original Message- From: Tomaz T. Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2024 8:16 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PCIe parallel port card suggestion [You don't often get email from tomaz_...@hotmail.com. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. >But; why doesn't the onboard port work? It really would be expected to. lspci - did not return any useful information about onboard lpt dmesg did: [5.032598] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver [5.036312] parport_pc 00:01: reported by Plug and Play ACPI [5.036380] parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 5 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP] [5.140591] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). anyway, then I tried to run Lcnc (2.9.2): Note: Using POSIX realtime PPMC: bus 0 epp_dir = 0 PPMC: bus 1 epp_dir = 0 PPMC: bus 2 epp_dir = 0 PPMC: checking EPP bus 0 at port 0378 PPMC: slot 0: ID code: 54 Univ. PWM Controller PPMC: exporting UxC digital inputs PPMC: exporting UxC digital outputs PPMC: exporting PWM generators PPMC: exporting encoder pins / params read cache bitmap: 7fff write cache bitmap: f0ff2000 PPMC: slot 2: ID code: 43 Univ. Stepper Controller PPMC: exporting UxC digital inputs PPMC: exporting UxC digital outputs PPMC: slave UxC addr 26 PPMC: slave UxC # 8 PPMC: exporting step generators PPMC: exporting encoder pins / params read cache bitmap: 7fff write cache bitmap: a000 BUT there is no position feedback from any encoder! PS. Wiring is OK as machine works on Lcnc 2.7 (on different/older computer). ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] PCIe parallel port card suggestion
The onboard (built in) parallel port of a mother board isn't a PCI device so won't show anything about it. This command should show your built in parallel port address. cat /proc/ioports | grep parport Todd Zuercher P. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 -Original Message- From: Tomaz T. Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2024 8:16 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PCIe parallel port card suggestion [You don't often get email from tomaz_...@hotmail.com. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. >But; why doesn't the onboard port work? It really would be expected to. lspci - did not return any useful information about onboard lpt dmesg did: [5.032598] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver [5.036312] parport_pc 00:01: reported by Plug and Play ACPI [5.036380] parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 5 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP] [5.140591] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). anyway, then I tried to run Lcnc (2.9.2): Note: Using POSIX realtime PPMC: bus 0 epp_dir = 0 PPMC: bus 1 epp_dir = 0 PPMC: bus 2 epp_dir = 0 PPMC: checking EPP bus 0 at port 0378 PPMC: slot 0: ID code: 54 Univ. PWM Controller PPMC: exporting UxC digital inputs PPMC: exporting UxC digital outputs PPMC: exporting PWM generators PPMC: exporting encoder pins / params read cache bitmap: 7fff write cache bitmap: f0ff2000 PPMC: slot 2: ID code: 43 Univ. Stepper Controller PPMC: exporting UxC digital inputs PPMC: exporting UxC digital outputs PPMC: slave UxC addr 26 PPMC: slave UxC # 8 PPMC: exporting step generators PPMC: exporting encoder pins / params read cache bitmap: 7fff write cache bitmap: a000 BUT there is no position feedback from any encoder! PS. Wiring is OK as machine works on Lcnc 2.7 (on different/older computer). ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Capto
On 1/2/24 08:17, Adam McLeod wrote: Fortunately, Sandvik standardized the Capto shank via ISO 26623. It is called a "Polygonal taper interface with flange contact surface". If you search "capto iso polygon shank" in duckduckgo search engine right now, you may find that there is a "preview" of that standard in a pdf that probably has the details you're looking for near the top of the search results. On 2024-01-01 9:04 p.m., Sam Sokolik wrote: boy - there doesn't seem to be much info on that shape.. It does look like it could be machined/ground with spindle synced motion.. In that event, stretch the definition of spindle to include drives similar to the A drive on the G0704, or the B drive on my 6040. Those are both 3 phase stepper/servo's of 3nm power, both driving an rvs30 series worm drive for a 5/1 reduction. These worms do have a half degree of backlash that may not be wholly consistent, but I'm carving buttress threads with them in synchronized motions, works fine. Top speeds of something in the 400 rpm range. At a speed your Z drive can track is a Sunday drive for that combo. We have the trig functions, and a simple multiply based on the remainder(mod) could easily return a triangular shape if its a sine. I'm positive I could come up with something on the 6040 doable with its 24k rev spindle and a CBN wheel. Not fast mind you, but doable. CBN is gawdawful $$$ and fragile in shapes and sizes I've found but it will "get the job done". It is much like diamond but cuts HSS w/o destroying both as there is no carbon in it. Leaves no wire edge to be easily broken off and dulled, HSS is finished like a shaving mirror. All it should take is somebody better at math than me. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Capto
Sorry, I meant to include the actual angle: 1°26'21" +/-25" On 2024-01-02 8:03 a.m., Adam McLeod wrote: Fortunately, Sandvik standardized the Capto shank via ISO 26623. It is called a "Polygonal taper interface with flange contact surface". If you search "capto iso polygon shank" in duckduckgo search engine right now, you may find that there is a "preview" of that standard in a pdf that probably has the details you're looking for near the top of the search results. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Capto
Fortunately, Sandvik standardized the Capto shank via ISO 26623. It is called a "Polygonal taper interface with flange contact surface". If you search "capto iso polygon shank" in duckduckgo search engine right now, you may find that there is a "preview" of that standard in a pdf that probably has the details you're looking for near the top of the search results. On 2024-01-01 9:04 p.m., Sam Sokolik wrote: boy - there doesn't seem to be much info on that shape.. It does look like it could be machined/ground with spindle synced motion.. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] PCIe parallel port card suggestion
>But; why doesn’t the onboard port work? It really would be expected to. lspci - did not return any useful information about onboard lpt dmesg did: [5.032598] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver [5.036312] parport_pc 00:01: reported by Plug and Play ACPI [5.036380] parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 5 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP] [5.140591] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). anyway, then I tried to run Lcnc (2.9.2): Note: Using POSIX realtime PPMC: bus 0 epp_dir = 0 PPMC: bus 1 epp_dir = 0 PPMC: bus 2 epp_dir = 0 PPMC: checking EPP bus 0 at port 0378 PPMC: slot 0: ID code: 54 Univ. PWM Controller PPMC: exporting UxC digital inputs PPMC: exporting UxC digital outputs PPMC: exporting PWM generators PPMC: exporting encoder pins / params read cache bitmap: 7fff write cache bitmap: f0ff2000 PPMC: slot 2: ID code: 43 Univ. Stepper Controller PPMC: exporting UxC digital inputs PPMC: exporting UxC digital outputs PPMC: slave UxC addr 26 PPMC: slave UxC # 8 PPMC: exporting step generators PPMC: exporting encoder pins / params read cache bitmap: 7fff write cache bitmap: a000 BUT there is no position feedback from any encoder! PS. Wiring is OK as machine works on Lcnc 2.7 (on different/older computer). ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Outside of machine limit bug?
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Re: [Emc-users] PCIe parallel port card suggestion
> On 1 Jan 2024, at 19:50, Tomaz T. wrote: > > I'm using Universal PWM Controller from Pico, this should work OK together? No, that requires an actual EPP parallel port. The Mesa card would replace the PPMC board. But; why doesn’t the onboard port work? It really would be expected to. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
