Re: [Emc-users] VFD causing limits to trip. Huh?

2015-03-06 Thread Watier Yves
Hi Russel,

I got exactly the same troubles describes with the VFDs creating a lot
of perturbation. Aspiration was also making perturbation for me.
Thankfully at my work place we have experts on EMI and Stephen advices
are what you need to follow.

In my case, to solve it I had to shield the cable between the VFD and
the spindle and physically separate them (away from the cable chain in
my case).

Limits and touch probes are now with shielded cables and ferrites.
Also Shields are touching the metallic part of the connectors so as to
be linked to the electronic rack.

Between electronic rack, VFD generator and the machine I have metallic
braids (flat and large). Linking the axis together with this braids
might have helped also (and not relaying on the balls from the guiding
rails).

I also have a metallic plate which shield the control computer from the VFD.

Good luck solving this, sometimes it work for 20 minutes without
tripping a limit, but there is hope even with Chinese parts, now, for
me the setup is reliable.

Cheers,

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2015-03-06 13:36 GMT+01:00 Stephen Dubovsky smdubov...@gmail.com:
 EMI.  VFDs generate lots of it. You're likely getting lots of noise coupled 
 into your limit switch cabling.  Shield the vfd wires if possible. Running in 
 a shielded single cable is probably best. Separate the motor and switch 
 cables as much as possible too.

 On March 6, 2015 6:56:08 AM EST, russ...@lls.lls.com wrote:

I've just fitted one of them there 'Chinese' 2.2kW watercooled motors
with a Huanyang VFD as a second spindle on my mill.

Last night doing some pocketing, when the cutter got into the 'meat' of
the cut (6mm carbide 2 flute, 3mm DOC), Linuxcnc (v2.6.7) tripped with
Axis 2 limit switch.

This was unexpected as I was nowhere near the Z-axis limit switches so
I
checked the connections and started the job again  and it did
exactly the same thing again in the same place!

Just for fun, I reduced the DOC, tried again and the same thing
happened
in the same place (about 20 seconds into the job).  H

The VFD is 1 foot away from the limit switch wiring, and the connection
from the VFD to the motor is shielded and grounded at the VFD end.  I'm
controlling the VFD with hy_vfd over RS485.

The limit switches (normal microswitches bolted to the column) are
wired
to a Mesa 7i76 with 12V field power and have not played up before.

I did an 'air-cut' and that ran well past the place it was consistently
failing.

I commented out:

#net both-home-z =  axis.2.home-sw-in
#net both-home-z =  axis.2.neg-lim-sw-in
#net both-home-z =  axis.2.pos-lim-sw-in

in my Mill.hal file and the job ran to the end.  Axis 0 and 1 limits
were left unchanged.

I ran out of time to experiment much further but I'm struggling to see
how the VFD could trip a simple limit switch when it's getting a bit
loaded up (the spindle was only pulling ~1amp according to hy_vfd and
it's rated for 8).

I don't think it was simple vibration as I'd been fly cutting with my
normal spindle shortly before and that didn't trip anything.

Any ideas what might cause this?

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[Emc-users] Two motors - Same axis - different microstepping modes.

2014-01-07 Thread Watier Yves
Hi all,

Today I'm wondering if it is possible to have two different output
pins (for step pulses) controlling two different motors for the same
axis with different microstepping values.

The (silly) idea would be to add a second motor on my X axis, but
unfortunately, a different motor with a different pulley size linked
to the leadscrew.

Also this could be something useful for people having double but
different leadscrew, two motors withe different pulleys size etc ...

Is there any common notation for this ? X'  ? Did I miss something
obvious for configuring lcnc ?

A example of configuration would be perfect, but at least the
confirmation that it is possible would be great.

Cheers,
Yves

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Re: [Emc-users] 3d scanner

2013-06-12 Thread Watier Yves
HI,

My 2ct, when I tried 2 years ago to have a reliable 3d scanner for
cheap, I tried the line laser option, cost nothing (a laser line is 5$
on ebay, and I recycle a good webcam).
My conclusion were that the raw scan need a lot of cleaning before
having anything useful for milling.
Maybe it improved in the meantime, but it seems to be challenging to
have something useful with this technology.

Also, the laser will hate having dust in the air ... so for on the fly
correction of the tool path ...

Cheers,

Yves,

2013/6/12 Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com:
 --- On Tue, 6/11/13, a k pccncmach...@gmail.com wrote:

 i want to talk about 3d laser scanner.
 this is new technology that can be add to EMC2
 Big picture is to generate intelligent milling machine
 machine tool.
 With 3d scanner machine tool can see inspect part that it
 cutting, analyze make correction and recut,

 Look up DAVID laser scanner.

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