Re: [Emc-users] Hardware Question - Mesa

2012-10-26 Thread mark center
The 5i25 + 7i77 is as close to dead simple easy as my limited knowledge and
ability could imagine. All of my problems were user error. The combo-pak
comes with firmwares pre-loaded. The only feature I that would have helped
was better A/D input resolution and accuracy, but that is a rather odd need.

The IRC chat is spectacular for getting these going.  JThornton has a
web-page to help and one of the devs at Mesa is regularly available. I have
been super happy with mine.

Mark Center

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:51 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 25 October 2012 23:43, Gandjpappy gandjpa...@aol.com wrote:

  My question is on the Mesa boards.


 Don't forget to look at the Pico solutions too.
 http://www.pico-systems.com/motion.html

  My mill uses servos so it looks like a  5i25 and 7i77 would work but I
 read where someone was using a 5i20. Will they both do the job and if so
 what would be the advantage of one or the other?

 The 5i20 / 5i21 / 5i23 boards have more pins, so you can connect more
 daughter boards. They cost a bit more, and tend to be not as easy to
 wire.
 It's much easier to switch between firmwares and configs with those
 boards, as the firmware is reloaded every time LinuxCNC starts up.

 I think there are some firmwares that can't run on the *i25 boards.


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Re: [Emc-users] pncconf w/ 5i25 and single 7i77

2012-08-05 Thread mark center
I have been lurking on the list for about a month and had the same problem.
 But, I also needed to change the W2 jumper on my 5I25 to up which
is not the default setting, as per JT's instructions,
http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/configs/index.html.

Mark

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Re: [Emc-users] geographic map

2012-08-05 Thread mark center
http://www.imts.com/

I went to the one in 2002. It happens on even years at McCormick Plaza
in Chicago.
 2,000,000 squ. ft of mostly machine tools.
 I spent two full days and still didn't see everything.
 It is *the* Gran-daddy convention for machinists.
Odd years are WesTec in Los Angeles.

Mark

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 yesterday i checked the map as it became broken when we were hacked
 sometime before i joined. Im still kinda looking for someone in the
 upstate new york area to meet with to bounce ideas. also whats this
 imts?  and where is it? I als havent been able to get on  irc for
 abotu six months it says it times out any thoughts? I hope one day to
 cure my ignorance by recieving answered questions or finding the
 answers myself and maybe provide some one day :) thanx

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Re: [Emc-users] [OT] I wonder what lathe this is modelled on?

2012-07-25 Thread mark center
My guess would be a Colchester, fine old British iron. I have a
Monarch 18-CBB that looks similar without a tray top.

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/threads/40292-Identify-this-Colchester-Lathe

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 July 2012 15:53:49 andy pugh did opine:

 http://www.modvid.com.au/assets/images/anders_bike_shop03.jpg
 Looks like a nice 0.07 centre-height lathe.

 The full set is at :
 http://www.modvid.com.au/html/body_anders_bike_shop_details.html

 All I can say is WOW!  The detail is great.  I'll have to admit that
 amongst all the old Triumphs  Harley's  Beemer's, I half expected to see
 a prewar Indian Chief with its 4 cylinder inline engine, and possibly even
 an Ariel Square 4.  But even in our world of today, Jay Leno probably owns
 50% of the survivors in 2012.  Very few left IOW.  I rode a borrowed Chief
 in a veterans day parade once, with a square 4 in front of me.  I have
 never again seen both in the same year.  The Chief had a suicide clutch and
 was hell to control at sub idling speeds, but was also very quiet.  You
 could hear the Ariels mechanical noises a block away.  I was a bit green at
 biking then, back in the middle 50's, and didn't realize till 25 years
 later that that ride could and should have been in the history books, but
 it was just part of the glitz for a veterans day parade then.

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Re: [Emc-users] The screw works!

2012-07-23 Thread mark center
I use 0 to 5 degree rake and 2 to 3 degrees absolute flank clearance.
The compound angle, viewed orthogonal to side view, is about 10 to 15
degrees. The spiral effect (lead angle) causes entering side to be
more acute than exit. Nothing is really terribly critical as long as a
cutting flank does not rub against either side of the thread flank.
Ridiculously acute appearing tool angles will cause less problems than
angles that would appear correct for turning, they just wear faster.
You might only be able to thread ten or fifteen parts before you need
to resharpen. The lead angle is a function of lead, diameter, and
whether internal/external.
I have a parting tool that I have threaded several times on a manual
South Bend Big 10 (and now a Monarch 10EE)

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
 To Andy  Steve;

 I made another of the dual thread screws yesterday, and can report that it
 seems to work well.  However it seems that I must have a flexibility
 problem in using a cutoff knife sharpened with a 60 degree V and a slight
 (10 degree?) hook though.  Or it doesn't have sufficient 'heel' clearance
 and is being pushed until there is a supporting thread on both sides of the
 tooth.

 The entrance thread, even though the starting point of the fwd cutting
 stroke is well off the end of the workpiece, I am getting a 'first thread
 is bigger' effect, about 15 thou bigger TBE!  This was very obvious when I
 cut the 10-32 thread, slightly less so when I cut the 7mmx1.00, but
 required I trim about 2/3rds of the first thread off with a dremel diamond
 wheel.

 Two things became obvious, one being that I have no way to actually measure
 the pitch diameter of a thread in progress, and because of the fat end
 thread syndrome, it doesn't seem practical to try and use the matching
 threading die as an am I done test gage.  That, and the die I have seems
 to have several thou of thread clearance, so a hole tapped with the tap, is
 a pretty sloppy fit on a screw made by the matching die.  I like my threads
 to fit better than that.

 How much of a heel clearance angle do you folks use when sharpening a
 single tooth, and how much 'hook' on the top face?

 I want to make a jig for this as setting up the rotary table on the mill,
 and tipping it fwd to get the heel clearance angle seems to work but is a
 setup PIMA due to the tables motor hitting the heads gearbox.

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Re: [Emc-users] long set screw

2012-07-16 Thread mark center
I had a job making hex adjusters for camshaft timing pulley's for
Cloyes gear. I needed to make about 2000 a week. First, I tried
broaching. It was labor intensive and expensive because broaches kept
breaking. I devised a roto-broaching tool. An axial hex cutter mounted
in bearings angled about 5 degree from centerline. I hated that job.
It sucked all my fun for a couple of years making less than minimum
wage. It was an education.

Mark Center

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
 Gene Heskett wrote:
 All of which proves that without us makers, the rest of the world will
 descend into the stone age in 200 years.  They may anyway, but thats
 another thread in history's endless loop. :(

 200 years?  Come on, it wouldn't take TWO years for everything to come
 to a stop!

 Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Plasma

2012-07-02 Thread mark center
Vibration consideration and rigidity are usually more limiting factors
in machining than HP. For example, a standard Bridgeport style mill
has a 1.5 hp motor. Most formulas give ambitious speed/feed/DOC vs hp
based on perfect stability. The forces required to cut are small
compared to the forces ensure smooth motion (up milling vs. climb
milling)
Consider a design approach based on experience (look at what someone
has done that works) rather than deterministic choice (formulas).

Mark Center

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/7/2 Daniel Rogge dro...@tormach.com:

 I was testing in Aluminum, but I think that for a given spindle HP your 
 results would be similar in other materials.  If you're on an open loop 
 machine it's preferable to size the motors such that you stall the spindle 
 before stalling an axis motor because it's often an easier failure mode to 
 detect.


 For X and Y I am looking only at servos. For speed, precision and
 reliability. For Z axis and for rotary joints I probably will have
 steppers.


 If you're only using small end mills, then the max axis force required is 
 simply just a bit more than the force required to snap the end mill.  I 
 would think that a 6mm end mill wouldn't be capable of delivering 1.5 HP to 
 a workpiece.


 So that means that machine would get all the 6 mm or even 8 end mill
 is capable of? That sound nice!

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