Re: [Emc-users] Linux CAM.
I have recently been using rest machining to speed up some parts. One part I was working on, the first article came off at just over 5 hours run time. It had a lot of corers with 0.03" radius, so very small cutters were needed. Moving to larger cutters in the beginning for bulk material removal, then using progressively smaller cutters with "rest" to get the details done. I had to create some additional sketches to constrain the "rest" paths to certain areas of the part. Otherwise the path chosen by the Fusion tool would spend time cutting air. The part also had a bunch of drilled & tapped M2 holes. The LinuxCNC rigid tapping cycle worked wonderfully! I was in fear that when Autodesk picked up HSMWorks, shat they would not keep the Solidworks plugin available, but am glad they did. The high school Robotics team I still work with is still using Solidworks. --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com "Good enough is the enemy of excellence"author unknown On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 10:05 AM andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 17:43, Roland Jollivet > wrote: > > > > The problem with all the lower end CAM's is that they don't support Rest > > machining, > > Fusion CAM claims to, but I am frequently unconvinced by the results. > > -- > atp > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and > lunatics." > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linux CAM.
Andy, Are you confusing Inventor with Solidworks? Inventor is Autodesk's flagship CAD system and does use HSMworks for CAM. Then later the older version of HSM is moved over to Fusion 360. Inventor is Autodesk's competitor to DS Solidworks. They both seem to have two CAD products high and low AutoDesk's low is "Fusion 360" and their higher-end is "Inventor" DS low is "Solidworks and their high-end is "CATIA". Inventor and Solidworks seem to be roughly aligned. On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 9:33 AM andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 17:23, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > > I found this some years ago when I was looking around. Then found > > Fusion360. It was obviously better. Now it appears Solidworks is going > > to take its place. > > Both Fusion and Solidworks CAM seems to be basically HSMWorks. > > -- > atp > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and > lunatics." > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linux CAM.
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 17:43, Roland Jollivet wrote: > > The problem with all the lower end CAM's is that they don't support Rest > machining, Fusion CAM claims to, but I am frequently unconvinced by the results. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linux CAM.
I believe Solidworks either purchased or partnered with CamWorks to create Solidworks CAM. > On Sep 22, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Thaddeus Waldner wrote: > > HSMWorks started out as an add-on to Solidworks and Autodesk Inventor. > Autodesk purchased the company and integrated it into their Fusion 360, while > at the same time continued to sell it as a Solidworks add-on. > > Solidworks CAM is their (Dassault Group) own product. > >> On Sep 22, 2020, at 11:29 AM, andy pugh wrote: >> >> On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 17:23, Chris Albertson >> wrote: >> >>> I found this some years ago when I was looking around. Then found >>> Fusion360. It was obviously better. Now it appears Solidworks is going >>> to take its place. >> >> Both Fusion and Solidworks CAM seems to be basically HSMWorks. >> >> -- >> atp >> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is >> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and >> lunatics." >> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 >> >> >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Linux CAM.
The problem with all the lower end CAM's is that they don't support Rest machining, which makes them fairly useless if you're machining steel. DeskProto didn't either as far as I remember. Now it does, but don't know how good it is. Roland On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 13:59, andy pugh wrote: > Just spotted in a forum post: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLcOeH1CTMQ > > DeskProto now has a Linux version. > I have never used it, and I have no idea what the costs for the > paid-for versions are. > But it does appear to be a conventional application that won't > suddenly stop working on the whim of the publisher (like Fusion) > > -- > atp > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and > lunatics." > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linux CAM.
> -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 12:29 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linux CAM. > > On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 17:23, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > > I found this some years ago when I was looking around. Then found > > Fusion360. It was obviously better. Now it appears Solidworks is going > > to take its place. > > Both Fusion and Solidworks CAM seems to be basically HSMWorks. > > -- > atp Looking at their website (https://www.deskproto.com/order/prices.php) Deskproto appears to cost between 0 and ?995 depending on features and who purchases it. They have a "hobby" deal (something like the old Fusion hobby licence) that claims to be identical to their commercial version for 0 to ?248 for the multi-axis version. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linux CAM.
HSMWorks started out as an add-on to Solidworks and Autodesk Inventor. Autodesk purchased the company and integrated it into their Fusion 360, while at the same time continued to sell it as a Solidworks add-on. Solidworks CAM is their (Dassault Group) own product. > On Sep 22, 2020, at 11:29 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 17:23, Chris Albertson > wrote: > >> I found this some years ago when I was looking around. Then found >> Fusion360. It was obviously better. Now it appears Solidworks is going >> to take its place. > > Both Fusion and Solidworks CAM seems to be basically HSMWorks. > > -- > atp > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and > lunatics." > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linux CAM.
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 17:23, Chris Albertson wrote: > I found this some years ago when I was looking around. Then found > Fusion360. It was obviously better. Now it appears Solidworks is going > to take its place. Both Fusion and Solidworks CAM seems to be basically HSMWorks. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linux CAM.
THey offer several versions starting with a free version and going up to a multi-axis version that can fo 5-axis indexed milling. They price different from hobby and commercial use. The top-end hobby price is $250. But you get the most bast version free. The big limitation with this is they all accept STL files as input. But even so, the high-end version does things like pockets and drilling. I found this some years ago when I was looking around. Then found Fusion360. It was obviously better. Now it appears Solidworks is going to take its place. On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 4:59 AM andy pugh wrote: > Just spotted in a forum post: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLcOeH1CTMQ > > DeskProto now has a Linux version. > I have never used it, and I have no idea what the costs for the > paid-for versions are. > But it does appear to be a conventional application that won't > suddenly stop working on the whim of the publisher (like Fusion) > > -- > atp > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and > lunatics." > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linux CAM.
>Just spotted in a forum post: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLcOeH1CTMQ >DeskProto now has a Linux version. >I have never used it, and I have no idea what the costs for the >paid-for versions are. >But it does appear to be a conventional application that won't >suddenly stop working on the whim of the publisher (like Fusion) I *think* CamBam may also work on Linux http://www.cambam.info/ They list some of the various "gotchas" here: http://www.cambam.info/ref/ref.linux I have never used it, but it seems like the paid for version is $149 They have a fairly decent "try before you buy" policy. Martin ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Linux CAM.
Just spotted in a forum post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLcOeH1CTMQ DeskProto now has a Linux version. I have never used it, and I have no idea what the costs for the paid-for versions are. But it does appear to be a conventional application that won't suddenly stop working on the whim of the publisher (like Fusion) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
