Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
On 7 December 2014 at 02:51, Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com wrote: I had ABS going and then I switched it over to scale like in the integrator manual. I can try and switch it back. I admit that I have never read the integrator manual, so I don't know what it says. However I suspect that it hasn't caught up with the fact that there are now direct ABS outputs for spindle speed from motion: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
Hi Jeremy. Does your VFD have a CW-CCW physical input to reverse the motor rotation ? If yes you should wire it and activate it related to the sign of motion.spindle-speed-out . Or if your VFD has a differential (+/-10Vdc) input you should use the motion.spindle-speed-out (scaled as needed) to activate the analog speed reference . Alex On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:02 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 December 2014 at 02:51, Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com wrote: I had ABS going and then I switched it over to scale like in the integrator manual. I can try and switch it back. I admit that I have never read the integrator manual, so I don't know what it says. However I suspect that it hasn't caught up with the fact that there are now direct ABS outputs for spindle speed from motion: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
loadrt scale count=1 addf scale.0 servo-thread setp scale.0.gain 0.002 net spindle-speed-scale motion.spindle-speed-out = scale.0.in net spindle-speed-DAC scale.0.out = your DAC pin name That's whats in the integrator manual. I started out with the abs I copied from a similar machine but then tried this and it worked.. I will finish the abs and report back. Should I look into adding my info, once complete, to wiki for others to use? My combination of setup and VFD are pretty common. Alex - I think it might. I currently have it hooked up CW on one pin and CCW on another. Let me see if I can switch that to a single pin. I am using the 0-10v pot on the VFD but it uses separate pins for the direction...which confuses me why it works one way perfectly and the other way is way off. Like you said I guess it's the negative. Once I get this figured out I want to tackle the MODBUS setup for mine too. Just figured this would be easier for now. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 5:22 AM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy. Does your VFD have a CW-CCW physical input to reverse the motor rotation ? If yes you should wire it and activate it related to the sign of motion.spindle-speed-out . Or if your VFD has a differential (+/-10Vdc) input you should use the motion.spindle-speed-out (scaled as needed) to activate the analog speed reference . Alex On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:02 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 December 2014 at 02:51, Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com wrote: I had ABS going and then I switched it over to scale like in the integrator manual. I can try and switch it back. I admit that I have never read the integrator manual, so I don't know what it says. However I suspect that it hasn't caught up with the fact that there are now direct ABS outputs for spindle speed from motion: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
The VFD I'm using uses three wire control - FWD, REV, RUN/STOP, where the MESA card is designed around FWD/REV and RUN/STOP two wire control, however the VFD can set inputs for active high or low operation so you can set FWD for active high, REV for active low and tie the two together to a single FWD/REV control signal. It's not entirely clear in the manual so it took a little bit to sort out but it works well. On the MESA card the enable output for the spindle is also the enable for the analog speed output so you can't use it as anything but an enable. --Original Mail-- From: Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 09:16:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output loadrt scale count=1 addf scale.0 servo-thread setp scale.0.gain 0.002 net spindle-speed-scale motion.spindle-speed-out = scale.0.in net spindle-speed-DAC scale.0.out = your DAC pin name That's whats in the integrator manual. I started out with the abs I copied from a similar machine but then tried this and it worked.. I will finish the abs and report back. Should I look into adding my info, once complete, to wiki for others to use? My combination of setup and VFD are pretty common. Alex - I think it might. I currently have it hooked up CW on one pin and CCW on another. Let me see if I can switch that to a single pin. I am using the 0-10v pot on the VFD but it uses separate pins for the direction...which confuses me why it works one way perfectly and the other way is way off. Like you said I guess it's the negative. Once I get this figured out I want to tackle the MODBUS setup for mine too. Just figured this would be easier for now. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 5:22 AM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy. Does your VFD have a CW-CCW physical input to reverse the motor rotation ? If yes you should wire it and activate it related to the sign of motion.spindle-speed-out . Or if your VFD has a differential (+/-10Vdc) input you should use the motion.spindle-speed-out (scaled as needed) to activate the analog speed reference . Alex On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:02 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 December 2014 at 02:51, Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com wrote: I had ABS going and then I switched it over to scale like in the integrator manual. I can try and switch it back. I admit that I have never read the integrator manual, so I don't know what it says. However I suspect that it hasn't caught up with the fact that there are now direct ABS outputs for spindle speed from motion: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE
Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
Hi Jeremy. If your VFD has the Modbus Port on board (rs232 or rs485?) I suggest to you to try the *mb2hal* component (the description and the how to are on the Wiki). I've tested the Modbus protocol using the TCP/IP (ethernet) and seems to work just fine so the serial communication should be fine too. Can you detail the Brand and the product code of your VFD ? Alex On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:35 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: The VFD I'm using uses three wire control - FWD, REV, RUN/STOP, where the MESA card is designed around FWD/REV and RUN/STOP two wire control, however the VFD can set inputs for active high or low operation so you can set FWD for active high, REV for active low and tie the two together to a single FWD/REV control signal. It's not entirely clear in the manual so it took a little bit to sort out but it works well. On the MESA card the enable output for the spindle is also the enable for the analog speed output so you can't use it as anything but an enable. --Original Mail-- From: Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 09:16:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output loadrt scale count=1 addf scale.0 servo-thread setp scale.0.gain 0.002 net spindle-speed-scale motion.spindle-speed-out = scale.0.in net spindle-speed-DAC scale.0.out = your DAC pin name That's whats in the integrator manual. I started out with the abs I copied from a similar machine but then tried this and it worked.. I will finish the abs and report back. Should I look into adding my info, once complete, to wiki for others to use? My combination of setup and VFD are pretty common. Alex - I think it might. I currently have it hooked up CW on one pin and CCW on another. Let me see if I can switch that to a single pin. I am using the 0-10v pot on the VFD but it uses separate pins for the direction...which confuses me why it works one way perfectly and the other way is way off. Like you said I guess it's the negative. Once I get this figured out I want to tackle the MODBUS setup for mine too. Just figured this would be easier for now. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 5:22 AM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy. Does your VFD have a CW-CCW physical input to reverse the motor rotation ? If yes you should wire it and activate it related to the sign of motion.spindle-speed-out . Or if your VFD has a differential (+/-10Vdc) input you should use the motion.spindle-speed-out (scaled as needed) to activate the analog speed reference . Alex On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:02 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 December 2014 at 02:51, Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com wrote: I had ABS going and then I switched it over to scale like in the integrator manual. I can try and switch it back. I admit that I have never read the integrator manual, so I don't know what it says. However I suspect that it hasn't caught up with the fact that there are now direct ABS outputs for spindle speed from motion: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
Hitahci WJ200-22 I looked into modbus earlier in the week and am going to go that route eventually. Just wanted to get it online now so I can run some other tests and what not. If I remember correctly my VFD does have an ethernet port. I was thinking serial but if the ethernet works just as well that would be awesome. Maybe I will look into that a little further today. It wasn't hard to get it running this way that's why I chose this route for the time being. The manual for the VFD is a little confusing. I feel like it explains one thing on one pages and something totally different on the next one. Was originally trying to do the 3 wire but found out this way to be alittle easier. Obviously needs some tweaking. Would liek to finish it up though and add to the wiki for others to see and then do the MODBUS. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:16 AM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy. If your VFD has the Modbus Port on board (rs232 or rs485?) I suggest to you to try the *mb2hal* component (the description and the how to are on the Wiki). I've tested the Modbus protocol using the TCP/IP (ethernet) and seems to work just fine so the serial communication should be fine too. Can you detail the Brand and the product code of your VFD ? Alex On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:35 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: The VFD I'm using uses three wire control - FWD, REV, RUN/STOP, where the MESA card is designed around FWD/REV and RUN/STOP two wire control, however the VFD can set inputs for active high or low operation so you can set FWD for active high, REV for active low and tie the two together to a single FWD/REV control signal. It's not entirely clear in the manual so it took a little bit to sort out but it works well. On the MESA card the enable output for the spindle is also the enable for the analog speed output so you can't use it as anything but an enable. --Original Mail-- From: Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 09:16:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output loadrt scale count=1 addf scale.0 servo-thread setp scale.0.gain 0.002 net spindle-speed-scale motion.spindle-speed-out = scale.0.in net spindle-speed-DAC scale.0.out = your DAC pin name That's whats in the integrator manual. I started out with the abs I copied from a similar machine but then tried this and it worked.. I will finish the abs and report back. Should I look into adding my info, once complete, to wiki for others to use? My combination of setup and VFD are pretty common. Alex - I think it might. I currently have it hooked up CW on one pin and CCW on another. Let me see if I can switch that to a single pin. I am using the 0-10v pot on the VFD but it uses separate pins for the direction...which confuses me why it works one way perfectly and the other way is way off. Like you said I guess it's the negative. Once I get this figured out I want to tackle the MODBUS setup for mine too. Just figured this would be easier for now. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 5:22 AM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy. Does your VFD have a CW-CCW physical input to reverse the motor rotation ? If yes you should wire it and activate it related to the sign of motion.spindle-speed-out . Or if your VFD has a differential (+/-10Vdc) input you should use the motion.spindle-speed-out (scaled as needed) to activate the analog speed reference . Alex On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:02 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 December 2014 at 02:51, Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com wrote: I had ABS going and then I switched it over to scale like in the integrator manual. I can try and switch it back. I admit that I have never read the integrator manual, so I don't know what it says. However I suspect that it hasn't caught up with the fact that there are now direct ABS outputs for spindle speed from motion: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
Oh and mine does have support in the newer version for the modbus. Just have to configure everything properly. Going to look into the ethernet side of things. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com wrote: Hitahci WJ200-22 I looked into modbus earlier in the week and am going to go that route eventually. Just wanted to get it online now so I can run some other tests and what not. If I remember correctly my VFD does have an ethernet port. I was thinking serial but if the ethernet works just as well that would be awesome. Maybe I will look into that a little further today. It wasn't hard to get it running this way that's why I chose this route for the time being. The manual for the VFD is a little confusing. I feel like it explains one thing on one pages and something totally different on the next one. Was originally trying to do the 3 wire but found out this way to be alittle easier. Obviously needs some tweaking. Would liek to finish it up though and add to the wiki for others to see and then do the MODBUS. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:16 AM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy. If your VFD has the Modbus Port on board (rs232 or rs485?) I suggest to you to try the *mb2hal* component (the description and the how to are on the Wiki). I've tested the Modbus protocol using the TCP/IP (ethernet) and seems to work just fine so the serial communication should be fine too. Can you detail the Brand and the product code of your VFD ? Alex On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 3:35 PM, p...@wpnet.us wrote: The VFD I'm using uses three wire control - FWD, REV, RUN/STOP, where the MESA card is designed around FWD/REV and RUN/STOP two wire control, however the VFD can set inputs for active high or low operation so you can set FWD for active high, REV for active low and tie the two together to a single FWD/REV control signal. It's not entirely clear in the manual so it took a little bit to sort out but it works well. On the MESA card the enable output for the spindle is also the enable for the analog speed output so you can't use it as anything but an enable. --Original Mail-- From: Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 09:16:53 -0500 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output loadrt scale count=1 addf scale.0 servo-thread setp scale.0.gain 0.002 net spindle-speed-scale motion.spindle-speed-out = scale.0.in net spindle-speed-DAC scale.0.out = your DAC pin name That's whats in the integrator manual. I started out with the abs I copied from a similar machine but then tried this and it worked.. I will finish the abs and report back. Should I look into adding my info, once complete, to wiki for others to use? My combination of setup and VFD are pretty common. Alex - I think it might. I currently have it hooked up CW on one pin and CCW on another. Let me see if I can switch that to a single pin. I am using the 0-10v pot on the VFD but it uses separate pins for the direction...which confuses me why it works one way perfectly and the other way is way off. Like you said I guess it's the negative. Once I get this figured out I want to tackle the MODBUS setup for mine too. Just figured this would be easier for now. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 5:22 AM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy. Does your VFD have a CW-CCW physical input to reverse the motor rotation ? If yes you should wire it and activate it related to the sign of motion.spindle-speed-out . Or if your VFD has a differential (+/-10Vdc) input you should use the motion.spindle-speed-out (scaled as needed) to activate the analog speed reference . Alex On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:02 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 December 2014 at 02:51, Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com wrote: I had ABS going and then I switched it over to scale like in the integrator manual. I can try and switch it back. I admit that I have never read the integrator manual, so I don't know what it says. However I suspect that it hasn't caught up with the fact that there are now direct ABS outputs for spindle speed from motion: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140
Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
On Sun, 7 Dec 2014, Jeremy Jones wrote: Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 09:16:53 -0500 From: Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output loadrt scale count=1 addf scale.0 servo-thread setp scale.0.gain 0.002 net spindle-speed-scale motion.spindle-speed-out = scale.0.in net spindle-speed-DAC scale.0.out = your DAC pin name Motion (as of 2.6 I believe) now has an absolute pin: motion.spindle-speed-out-abs So its simpler now, Also if the VFD has a accurate analog input so you dont need to add an offset, the scale component is not needed either and motions spindle speed pin can be directly connected to the 7I76 spinout hal pin: net spindlerpm motion.spindle-speed-out-abs = hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinout The scale is set with hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinout-scalemax and bounds are set with hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinout-maxlim and hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinout-minlim so for example with a 6000 RPM maximum spindle speed you would: setp hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinout-scalemax 6000 setp hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinout-maxlim 6000 setp hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.spinout-minlim 0 That's whats in the integrator manual. I started out with the abs I copied from a similar machine but then tried this and it worked.. I will finish the abs and report back. Should I look into adding my info, once complete, to wiki for others to use? My combination of setup and VFD are pretty common. Alex - I think it might. I currently have it hooked up CW on one pin and CCW on another. Let me see if I can switch that to a single pin. I am using the 0-10v pot on the VFD but it uses separate pins for the direction...which confuses me why it works one way perfectly and the other way is way off. Like you said I guess it's the negative. Once I get this figured out I want to tackle the MODBUS setup for mine too. Just figured this would be easier for now. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 5:22 AM, alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy. Does your VFD have a CW-CCW physical input to reverse the motor rotation ? If yes you should wire it and activate it related to the sign of motion.spindle-speed-out . Or if your VFD has a differential (+/-10Vdc) input you should use the motion.spindle-speed-out (scaled as needed) to activate the analog speed reference . Alex On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:02 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 December 2014 at 02:51, Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com wrote: I had ABS going and then I switched it over to scale like in the integrator manual. I can try and switch it back. I admit that I have never read the integrator manual, so I don't know what it says. However I suspect that it hasn't caught up with the fact that there are now direct ABS outputs for spindle speed from motion: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/motion.9.html -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny
[Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
Trying to get the spindle running. What should I be seeing on the spin enable aand direction outputs voltage wise? Not getting anywhere with this and I see no change in voltage even though it shows them active in Hal. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
On Sat, 6 Dec 2014, Jeremy Jones wrote: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 14:18:40 -0500 From: Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output Trying to get the spindle running. What should I be seeing on the spin enable aand direction outputs voltage wise? Not getting anywhere with this and I see no change in voltage even though it shows them active in Hal. The direction and enable outputs are not voltage sources but rather switches so you will not see any change unless you use a Ohmmeter across the pins. if your VFD needs inputs pulled to ground, you wire like this: ENA+ -- VFD INPUT ENA- -- VFD GROUND/COMMON If you VFD needs to have inputs pulled up, you wire like this ENA+ VFD +COMMON ENA- VFD INPUT Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
OK got it. Was a little confused there. Guess I was used to wiring up the i /o's. On Dec 6, 2014 2:35 PM, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 2014, Jeremy Jones wrote: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 14:18:40 -0500 From: Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output Trying to get the spindle running. What should I be seeing on the spin enable aand direction outputs voltage wise? Not getting anywhere with this and I see no change in voltage even though it shows them active in Hal. The direction and enable outputs are not voltage sources but rather switches so you will not see any change unless you use a Ohmmeter across the pins. if your VFD needs inputs pulled to ground, you wire like this: ENA+ -- VFD INPUT ENA- -- VFD GROUND/COMMON If you VFD needs to have inputs pulled up, you wire like this ENA+ VFD +COMMON ENA- VFD INPUT Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
OK I got it working and I got the speeds calibrated. Any reason why when I go ccw may speeds are way off? Doubt I will ever go that direction so its not a big deal but it doesn't make any sense. On Dec 6, 2014 2:35 PM, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 2014, Jeremy Jones wrote: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 14:18:40 -0500 From: Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output Trying to get the spindle running. What should I be seeing on the spin enable aand direction outputs voltage wise? Not getting anywhere with this and I see no change in voltage even though it shows them active in Hal. The direction and enable outputs are not voltage sources but rather switches so you will not see any change unless you use a Ohmmeter across the pins. if your VFD needs inputs pulled to ground, you wire like this: ENA+ -- VFD INPUT ENA- -- VFD GROUND/COMMON If you VFD needs to have inputs pulled up, you wire like this ENA+ VFD +COMMON ENA- VFD INPUT Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
On 6 December 2014 at 21:06, Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com wrote: Any reason why when I go ccw may speeds are way off? That's normally due to using spindle-speed not spindle-speed-abs. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 7i76 spindle output
I had ABS going and then I switched it over to scale like in the integrator manual. I can try and switch it back. On Dec 6, 2014 6:14 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 December 2014 at 21:06, Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com wrote: Any reason why when I go ccw may speeds are way off? That's normally due to using spindle-speed not spindle-speed-abs. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
