Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 to Compact Flash
I like the Acronis idea if it would transfer all my settings and downloads, saving me trying to reconfigure Linux like I have it configured now. I haven't done that much but I'm still pretty much a Linux cluts, it feels very awkward. If you have a CF/IDE adapter, then you can simply configure your CF as a second HDD (probably hdb). Then you can simply copy the content from the main HDD (hda?) to hdb using dd as the command. This assumes your HDD doesn't have a larger capacity than 4G. Another way to do it, is copy the files themselves (be sure to retain permissions and ownerships), then put the CF as the main HDD, and boot a LiveCD. Once booted you need to rerun the boot manager, so it configures itself on the CF, and you should be set (more or less.. this is probably a more advanced way of doing things). Regards, Alex -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 to Compact Flash
Евгений Александрович pravi: I had to build EMC on Puppy linux to be able start EMC 2 from CF, USB Flash, DOM and another modules. I use Puppy because that OS work in RAM and write on disk only when I shutdown PC. Also I am looking for tinycore linux, but it is very difficult to start EMC on tinycore linux. Evgeny Can you make puppy distro with EMC2?! -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 to Compact Flash
How about slitaz, this 30Mb linux distro is amazing small and fast with uptodate programs, with kernel 2.6.30. 2010/4/14 Slavko Kocjancic esla...@gmail.com: Евгений Александрович pravi: I had to build EMC on Puppy linux to be able start EMC 2 from CF, USB Flash, DOM and another modules. I use Puppy because that OS work in RAM and write on disk only when I shutdown PC. Also I am looking for tinycore linux, but it is very difficult to start EMC on tinycore linux. Evgeny Can you make puppy distro with EMC2?! -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 to Compact Flash
How long does it take to boot off the USB stick drive? There is a how to on the wiki http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Install_To_CompactFlash I've always used CF to IDE or CF to Sata adapters for flash drive versions of Windows, but Linux is more forgiving from what I have seen than Windows. Windows requires the device to be a non-removable device before you can clone to it. (That is why putting Windows on a stick drive is more difficult, but not impossible - hacking required) I don't think that Acronis will write to a stick drive, at least not the version I have.. If you find differently, please let me know! Some CF to IDE and CF to Sata adapters can be run as a non removable device and some cannot. For Windows systems I have had good luck with Addonics adapters. Some of the available adapters are very cheaply constructed and simply don't work. You also need to use a CF card and adapter that is DMA capable. I was buying Transcend 133x CF cards a while ago for Windows systems and those have worked out fine. They were the lowest cost cards I could find at the time that supported DMA and they have proven to be reliable. One system has been running 24x7 for two years now. A windows system running on a CF card requires part of Windows embedded to get around the constant disk writes that windows makes to the drive - which will wear out a CF card eventually.. (how long.. hard to tell) Looks like Linux has similar issues with the swap file according to the wiki. With the cost of memory these days, I'd just stick in 2 gigs of ram and forget about it. Perhaps I need to try Alex's method of simply copying the contents from one drive to the next and rerunning the boot manager off a live CD that seems possibly easier.. or at least you don't need Acronis and a windows system to do it. Dave On 4/13/2010 8:10 PM, Matthew Ireland wrote: I've been using a 4Gb flash drive for six months now... it has worked perfectly as far as I'm able to tell. I am not well versed in performance issues and so I might miss them if they cropped up. Firefox is a dog, but then it always is... I always restart the computer before doing any cutting incase I've had a memory leak churning away. I am using an intel atom motherboard; once I figured out the BIOS settings it worked like any other machine. I put 2Gb Ram in it to diminish any need for swap space. So far I have been extremely pleased. the whole computer cost under $150 at Fry's. The flash stick cost $8. I did a fresh install to the stick, with minimal extra software. I am likewise interested in any technical considerations that this approach may entail. I feel like I'm getting away with something that shouldn't work. Would Acronis be suitable for cloning my flash stick? On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: You should also be able to use Acronis to clone the drive to the flash drive, however Acronis does not support the ext4 file system.But it will tell you that if you try and backup an ext4 file system with Acronis. Unless you try and restore stuff to the linux hard drive there is almost no way to corrupt the files on it with Acronis. Dave On 4/13/2010 5:49 PM, RogerN wrote: I'm interested in trying to run my EMC2 lathe from a CF card. I bought a 4Gb CF card, can I make an Acronis backup of my EMC2 hard drive and restore on the CF card? Or if I try to install from the Live CD will it let me select the USB CF drive and leave my working hard drive alone? I want to try it out on the CF card but I don't want it to destroy what works on my hard drive. Thanks! Roger Neal -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune
[Emc-users] EMC2 to Compact Flash
I'm interested in trying to run my EMC2 lathe from a CF card. I bought a 4Gb CF card, can I make an Acronis backup of my EMC2 hard drive and restore on the CF card? Or if I try to install from the Live CD will it let me select the USB CF drive and leave my working hard drive alone? I want to try it out on the CF card but I don't want it to destroy what works on my hard drive. Thanks! Roger Neal -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 to Compact Flash
If you use a CF to IDE adapter you can install EMC on it just like any other hard drive. There is some useful stuff on the wiki http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?Install_To_CompactFlash Les On 13/04/10 22:49, RogerN wrote: I'm interested in trying to run my EMC2 lathe from a CF card. I bought a 4Gb CF card, can I make an Acronis backup of my EMC2 hard drive and restore on the CF card? Or if I try to install from the Live CD will it let me select the USB CF drive and leave my working hard drive alone? I want to try it out on the CF card but I don't want it to destroy what works on my hard drive. Thanks! -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 to Compact Flash
You should also be able to use Acronis to clone the drive to the flash drive, however Acronis does not support the ext4 file system.But it will tell you that if you try and backup an ext4 file system with Acronis. Unless you try and restore stuff to the linux hard drive there is almost no way to corrupt the files on it with Acronis. Dave On 4/13/2010 5:49 PM, RogerN wrote: I'm interested in trying to run my EMC2 lathe from a CF card. I bought a 4Gb CF card, can I make an Acronis backup of my EMC2 hard drive and restore on the CF card? Or if I try to install from the Live CD will it let me select the USB CF drive and leave my working hard drive alone? I want to try it out on the CF card but I don't want it to destroy what works on my hard drive. Thanks! Roger Neal -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 to Compact Flash
I've been using a 4Gb flash drive for six months now... it has worked perfectly as far as I'm able to tell. I am not well versed in performance issues and so I might miss them if they cropped up. Firefox is a dog, but then it always is... I always restart the computer before doing any cutting incase I've had a memory leak churning away. I am using an intel atom motherboard; once I figured out the BIOS settings it worked like any other machine. I put 2Gb Ram in it to diminish any need for swap space. So far I have been extremely pleased. the whole computer cost under $150 at Fry's. The flash stick cost $8. I did a fresh install to the stick, with minimal extra software. I am likewise interested in any technical considerations that this approach may entail. I feel like I'm getting away with something that shouldn't work. Would Acronis be suitable for cloning my flash stick? On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: You should also be able to use Acronis to clone the drive to the flash drive, however Acronis does not support the ext4 file system.But it will tell you that if you try and backup an ext4 file system with Acronis. Unless you try and restore stuff to the linux hard drive there is almost no way to corrupt the files on it with Acronis. Dave On 4/13/2010 5:49 PM, RogerN wrote: I'm interested in trying to run my EMC2 lathe from a CF card. I bought a 4Gb CF card, can I make an Acronis backup of my EMC2 hard drive and restore on the CF card? Or if I try to install from the Live CD will it let me select the USB CF drive and leave my working hard drive alone? I want to try it out on the CF card but I don't want it to destroy what works on my hard drive. Thanks! Roger Neal -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 to Compact Flash
At work we use some Siemens software PLC's running on a PC using Windows XP embedded. I tried Acronis to create an image and tried to restore to a CF plugged into a USB card reader, it worked up to a point and then hung a while, then said it needed to reboot. I tried to format the CF using the command prompt, windows said the CF wasn't ready and needed to reboot, rebooting didn't change this. Using the CF on the Siemens MicroBox PC's gave me the idea of trying a CF on the EMC2 lathe I have. I don't know if the Acronis restore problem is due the USB and would not be a problem with a CF to IDE adapter or if it's something else. I am interested in trying to boot my laptop using an EMC2 live CD and then trying to install Linux on my CF in a USB card reader but It's been years since I installed EMC on my lathe PC and I'm not sure that EMC Live CD won't bother my hard drive. I like the Acronis idea if it would transfer all my settings and downloads, saving me trying to reconfigure Linux like I have it configured now. I haven't done that much but I'm still pretty much a Linux cluts, it feels very awkward. Roger Neal - Original Message - From: Matthew Ireland wyeh...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 to Compact Flash I've been using a 4Gb flash drive for six months now... it has worked perfectly as far as I'm able to tell. I am not well versed in performance issues and so I might miss them if they cropped up. Firefox is a dog, but then it always is... I always restart the computer before doing any cutting incase I've had a memory leak churning away. I am using an intel atom motherboard; once I figured out the BIOS settings it worked like any other machine. I put 2Gb Ram in it to diminish any need for swap space. So far I have been extremely pleased. the whole computer cost under $150 at Fry's. The flash stick cost $8. I did a fresh install to the stick, with minimal extra software. I am likewise interested in any technical considerations that this approach may entail. I feel like I'm getting away with something that shouldn't work. Would Acronis be suitable for cloning my flash stick? On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: You should also be able to use Acronis to clone the drive to the flash drive, however Acronis does not support the ext4 file system.But it will tell you that if you try and backup an ext4 file system with Acronis. Unless you try and restore stuff to the linux hard drive there is almost no way to corrupt the files on it with Acronis. Dave On 4/13/2010 5:49 PM, RogerN wrote: I'm interested in trying to run my EMC2 lathe from a CF card. I bought a 4Gb CF card, can I make an Acronis backup of my EMC2 hard drive and restore on the CF card? Or if I try to install from the Live CD will it let me select the USB CF drive and leave my working hard drive alone? I want to try it out on the CF card but I don't want it to destroy what works on my hard drive. Thanks! Roger Neal -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 to Compact Flash
I had to build EMC on Puppy linux to be able start EMC 2 from CF, USB Flash, DOM and another modules. I use Puppy because that OS work in RAM and write on disk only when I shutdown PC. Also I am looking for tinycore linux, but it is very difficult to start EMC on tinycore linux. Evgeny Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:49:47 -0500 письмо от RogerN re...@wildblue.net: I'm interested in trying to run my EMC2 lathe from a CF card. I bought a 4Gb CF card, can I make an Acronis backup of my EMC2 hard drive and restore on the CF card? Or if I try to install from the Live CD will it let me select the USB CF drive and leave my working hard drive alone? I want to try it out on the CF card but I don't want it to destroy what works on my hard drive. Thanks! Roger Neal -- Download Intel Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
