Gene, Chris, Milosz and everybody who has tried to help,

I took the power supply out of the controller cabinet and set it up on the 
bench. I used a small screw driver to turn the fan a few times, then I turned 
it on and the fan ran. Like Milosz said it was loud. I turned it off and turned 
it back on again and the fan ran, Great problem fixed (yeah, right). I put it 
back in the cabinet and turned it on (silence). So I will take it back out of 
the cabinet and see if I can get it to run and start reliably after a period of 
rest. Otherwise it looks like replacing the fan is the answer.

Thanks all,
Alan

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>   1. Re: Meanwell SE600-48 Power Supply (Gene Heskett)
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> From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Meanwell SE600-48 Power Supply
> Date: July 18, 2021 at 6:59:05 PM CDT
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> On Friday 16 July 2021 15:33:23 Alan Condit wrote:
> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> The unit doesn’t seem to be warm.
>> I adjusted the voltage down to 42 volts, to provide some headroom. I
>> am using KL5056 stepper drivers and they say max 50 volts. There is
>> definitely power to the fan because if I try to turn it it snaps back
>> to the fixed position. The voltage is rock steady at 42 volts.
>> 
>> I wonder if it is just the fan or fan controller that is bad.
>> 
>> I bought the power supply a year or so ago but this is the first time
>> I have applied power to it. Maybe I will have to open it up and see if
>> I could replace the fan.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
> That rather sounds like a good idea, Alan. From your description it 
> sounds like the motors own hal effect commutation circuit has died. That 
> is typically buried someplace in the motor, so if it has voltage, but is 
> not running, and the motor itself may be hot, its probably time for a 
> new fan.  Call it infant mortality.
> 
>>> From: Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Meanwell SE600-48 Power Supply
>>> Date: July 15, 2021 at 12:21:10 PM CDT
>>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
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>>> 
>>> If you place your hand on the power supply and feel no heat, then
>>> I'd expect the fan to be off.
>>> 
>>> I some a good size power resistors mounted to a heat sink with a fan
>>> that I used for testing power supplies.  Testing with no dummy load
>>> is not very meaningful.   The load is set up so it can be quickly
>>> rewired with resistors in series or parallel in different ways using
>>> a terminal block.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 9:19 AM Alan Condit <condit.a...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>>>> I am building a new controller cabinet. I installed a Meanwell
>>>> SE600-48 power supply. When I turn on the power supply the fan
>>>> doesn’t turn on. If I leave the power supply on for a little while
>>>> I hear an intermittent clicking (like a relay) but no fan. Does it
>>>> have some kind of temperature control on the fan? Is it not turning
>>>> on because I currently have virtually no load on the power supply?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alan
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> From: Andy Pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar
> Date: July 18, 2021 at 7:00:27 PM CDT
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>> On 19 Jul 2021, at 00:39, John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com> wrote:
>> 
>> case though is there a way to limit the distance the butterfly turns?
> 
> Have you considered a disc spring setup instead?  The one on my mill has 
> worked well. 
> 
> Otherwise: maybe you could have a plain section above the thread for the nut 
> to run in to, and then a cap to stop it all disassembling. 
> You might want a spring to re-engage the nut with the thread. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "John Dammeyer" <jo...@autoartisans.com>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar
> Date: July 18, 2021 at 7:38:32 PM CDT
> To: "'Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\)'" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
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> 
> Hi Andy,
>> From: Andy Pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com]
> The disk spring setup would be great if the only thing I used was TT Tooling. 
>  But if I remove the R8 3/4" flat top collet and insert my 3/4" R8 drill 
> chuck the springs seem like they'd be an issue. The air cylinder to push on 
> the spring washers now has to be moved out of the way. How tight is tight?
> 
> I had thought of using a stepper motor and 100:1 planetary drive which are 
> available for about $60.  Pretty easy to engage air cylinder to push socket 
> onto draw bar.  Then turn 200 turns to unwind draw bar two turns.  To tighten 
> turn two rotations.   The torque multiplier is more than enough to create the 
> 12 to 18 inch lbs required.
> 
> If I want to remove the collet then run it 12 rotations.   I think even a 
> 50:1 with 150 oz-in motor will work.
> 
> And I have an extra stepgen available on the MESA.  
> 
> But I already have the butterfly wrench, air cylinder, electric valves, 
> regulators etc.  All but the mechanical hardware.  For that I'm busy changing 
> the 2D drawings into 3D Parametric so I can use LCNC to make them.
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Jul 2021, at 00:39, John Dammeyer < <mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com> 
>>> jo...@autoartisans.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> case though is there a way to limit the distance the butterfly turns?
>> 
>> Have you considered a disc spring setup instead?  The one on my mill has 
>> worked well.
>> 
>> Otherwise: maybe you could have a plain section above the thread for the nut 
>> to run in to, and then a cap to stop it all
>> disassembling.
>> You might want a spring to re-engage the nut with the thread.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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