Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: [EMC Support Forum Forum] Re:10.04 live cd no Realtime (Installing EMC)
Alex, That works once you've installed the OS and EMC2. I had the problem running it from the live CD, with no way of adding qualifiers to the boot. Perhaps on the next release, or update that could be added as a default to the /etc/default/grub file? Or will that break other installs? Mark On 09/14/2010 04:10 PM, Alex Joni wrote: It's not APIC, but LAPIC (Local APIC) that's the troublesome thingie. There are some (older?) BIOS'es that apparently don't enable it by default, so the user has to enable lapic at boot time (kernel param). There have been quite a few messages how to fix this. But here it goes again: in /etc/default/grub, change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash lapic and then run update-grub and reboot This only works if your system _does_ have an LAPIC. If you get the error message: [ 0.080250] Local APIC not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation. then you are out of luck, and you need a non-SMP RTAI install (hardy 8.04 for example). Regards, Alex -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: [EMC Support Forum Forum] Re:10.04 live cd no Realtime (Installing EMC)
You should be able to edit the grub line even for the LiveCD. At the beginning of the boot there's a keyboard symbol on the screen, if you press any key you get a boot menu. There is an option there to edit boot params (F6 or so, iirc). All you need to do is add lapic to the boot line. I am not sure it's a good idea adding lapic for all PC's, this is only usefull for older machines without SMP I think. Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: [EMC Support Forum Forum] Re:10.04 live cd no Realtime (Installing EMC) Alex, That works once you've installed the OS and EMC2. I had the problem running it from the live CD, with no way of adding qualifiers to the boot. Perhaps on the next release, or update that could be added as a default to the /etc/default/grub file? Or will that break other installs? Mark On 09/14/2010 04:10 PM, Alex Joni wrote: It's not APIC, but LAPIC (Local APIC) that's the troublesome thingie. There are some (older?) BIOS'es that apparently don't enable it by default, so the user has to enable lapic at boot time (kernel param). There have been quite a few messages how to fix this. But here it goes again: in /etc/default/grub, change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash lapic and then run update-grub and reboot This only works if your system _does_ have an LAPIC. If you get the error message: [ 0.080250] Local APIC not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation. then you are out of luck, and you need a non-SMP RTAI install (hardy 8.04 for example). Regards, Alex -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: [EMC Support Forum Forum] Re:10.04 live cd no Realtime (Installing EMC)
Ah, I was wondering what those two little doohickeys were when it started booting to the CD-ROM... Thanks! Mark On 09/15/2010 06:00 AM, Alex Joni wrote: You should be able to edit the grub line even for the LiveCD. At the beginning of the boot there's a keyboard symbol on the screen, if you press any key you get a boot menu. There is an option there to edit boot params (F6 or so, iirc). All you need to do is add lapic to the boot line. I am not sure it's a good idea adding lapic for all PC's, this is only usefull for older machines without SMP I think. Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: [EMC Support Forum Forum] Re:10.04 live cd no Realtime (Installing EMC) Alex, That works once you've installed the OS and EMC2. I had the problem running it from the live CD, with no way of adding qualifiers to the boot. Perhaps on the next release, or update that could be added as a default to the /etc/default/grub file? Or will that break other installs? Mark On 09/14/2010 04:10 PM, Alex Joni wrote: It's not APIC, but LAPIC (Local APIC) that's the troublesome thingie. There are some (older?) BIOS'es that apparently don't enable it by default, so the user has to enable lapic at boot time (kernel param). There have been quite a few messages how to fix this. But here it goes again: in /etc/default/grub, change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash lapic and then run update-grub and reboot This only works if your system _does_ have an LAPIC. If you get the error message: [ 0.080250] Local APIC not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation. then you are out of luck, and you need a non-SMP RTAI install (hardy 8.04 for example). Regards, Alex -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Fwd: [EMC Support Forum Forum] Re:10.04 live cd no Realtime (Installing EMC)
Any ideas about APIC support dependency? -- Forwarded message -- Well, yes .. .that was one of my issues !! I did try switching the APIC option in within my BIOS and I came up with a whole different set of errors, that said about the same thing. the out put ended with: RTAI[hal]:ERROR, LOCAL APIC CONFIGURED BUT NOT AVAILABLE/ENABLED Yesterday, I did some experimenting and a good bit of google research and one promising thing i found was this site: http://www.network-crawler.de/index.php/RTAI --which notes that if i get this error, then I will have to recompile. I have not idea what exactly i would recompile or how to do it, so please, if anyone knows, spell it out to me (i am really bad at Linux stuff). The computer that I am trying to install 10.04 onto is a neoware e100 thin client, with a VIA processor. Although it is x86 compliant, some earlier versions were made without support for APIC. This can be found by typing $ 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and looking at the flags section. Well, lucky me, my processor does not support APIC, however my BIOS does not seem to know (or care). I am pretty sure that no APIC support on the process is my issue here, and this has absolutely nothing to do with 10.04. --Moderators, if you want to two and put in a new thread, feel free. -- So, at this point I have two questions: 1 - Does EMC2 require APIC support to run ? 2 - How would I go about configuring EMC2 to run with out APIC support ? Any help is greatly appreciated!! Thanks in advance. - -- atp -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: [EMC Support Forum Forum] Re:10.04 live cd no Realtime (Installing EMC)
It's not APIC, but LAPIC (Local APIC) that's the troublesome thingie. There are some (older?) BIOS'es that apparently don't enable it by default, so the user has to enable lapic at boot time (kernel param). There have been quite a few messages how to fix this. But here it goes again: in /etc/default/grub, change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash lapic and then run update-grub and reboot This only works if your system _does_ have an LAPIC. If you get the error message: [ 0.080250] Local APIC not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation. then you are out of luck, and you need a non-SMP RTAI install (hardy 8.04 for example). Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: Andy Pugh a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:24 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Fwd: [EMC Support Forum Forum] Re:10.04 live cd no Realtime (Installing EMC) Any ideas about APIC support dependency? -- Forwarded message -- Well, yes .. .that was one of my issues !! I did try switching the APIC option in within my BIOS and I came up with a whole different set of errors, that said about the same thing. the out put ended with: RTAI[hal]:ERROR, LOCAL APIC CONFIGURED BUT NOT AVAILABLE/ENABLED Yesterday, I did some experimenting and a good bit of google research and one promising thing i found was this site: http://www.network-crawler.de/index.php/RTAI --which notes that if i get this error, then I will have to recompile. I have not idea what exactly i would recompile or how to do it, so please, if anyone knows, spell it out to me (i am really bad at Linux stuff). The computer that I am trying to install 10.04 onto is a neoware e100 thin client, with a VIA processor. Although it is x86 compliant, some earlier versions were made without support for APIC. This can be found by typing $ 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and looking at the flags section. Well, lucky me, my processor does not support APIC, however my BIOS does not seem to know (or care). I am pretty sure that no APIC support on the process is my issue here, and this has absolutely nothing to do with 10.04. --Moderators, if you want to two and put in a new thread, feel free. -- So, at this point I have two questions: 1 - Does EMC2 require APIC support to run ? 2 - How would I go about configuring EMC2 to run with out APIC support ? Any help is greatly appreciated!! Thanks in advance. - -- atp -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3134 - Release Date: 09/14/10 09:35:00 -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
