Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: A bit OT: Looking for pinout for a Chinese Scale reader head

2022-05-10 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 10:20 AM gene heskett  wrote:

> On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 08:49:57 EDT Mark Wendt wrote:
> [...]
> > Gene,
> >
> > If you'd seen the really cheesy cable connector that goes into the old
> > style Chinese scales, the mini USB connector it a vast improvement.
> > The nice thing about the cable into the scales is they rarely get
> > disconnected so once in place, there's virtually no wear and tear on
> > the connectors.
> >
> > Mark
>
> Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about data connectors on consumer
> grade cameras even if they do cost in the $400 range.
>
> That said, if you ever find a cable that plugs a $30 caliper into a usb
> port, I wouldn't mind seeing the url for it. I've a short one I'd like to
> fix to the barrel of my Sheldon's tailstock. It would make a nice
> calibrator for the z axis on my 6040 too.
>
> Take care & stay well.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
>

It's just a mini USB cable bought at a local computer shop.  I don't think
they make the old style cables any more with the four sprung strips, and it
seems the new Chinese scales come with the minu USB port.

Mark

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Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: A bit OT: Looking for pinout for a Chinese Scale reader head

2022-05-10 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 08:49:57 EDT Mark Wendt wrote:
[...] 
> Gene,
> 
> If you'd seen the really cheesy cable connector that goes into the old
> style Chinese scales, the mini USB connector it a vast improvement. 
> The nice thing about the cable into the scales is they rarely get
> disconnected so once in place, there's virtually no wear and tear on
> the connectors.
> 
> Mark

Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about data connectors on consumer 
grade cameras even if they do cost in the $400 range.
 
That said, if you ever find a cable that plugs a $30 caliper into a usb 
port, I wouldn't mind seeing the url for it. I've a short one I'd like to 
fix to the barrel of my Sheldon's tailstock. It would make a nice 
calibrator for the z axis on my 6040 too.

Take care & stay well.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis





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Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: A bit OT: Looking for pinout for a Chinese Scale reader head

2022-05-10 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 8:28 AM gene heskett  wrote:

>
> > No worries.  The DRO puts out 1.5VDC through the Vpos and Vneg lines.
> > I'm not plugging the scale into a PC or anything like that.  The scale
> > is plugged into the DRO-350.  All I'm trying to do is cobble a cable to
> > go from the DRO to new scale which has the mini USB connector on it
> > rather than the old four strip connector in it.  I'm figuring the mini
> > USB will probably be a much better connection than the old one could
> > ever be.
> >
> > Mark
>
> Thats debatable Mark. I have an older Nikon D-100 Coolpix camera with one
> of the many variations of the mini-usb socket, and discovered quite early
> in its history that If I wanted to get pix out of it with digikam, that
> it had to be standing on the face of its lens with the data cable hanging
> straight down off the edge of the desktop if I wanted a connection.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
>

Gene,

If you'd seen the really cheesy cable connector that goes into the old
style Chinese scales, the mini USB connector it a vast improvement.  The
nice thing about the cable into the scales is they rarely get disconnected
so once in place, there's virtually no wear and tear on the connectors.

Mark

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Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: A bit OT: Looking for pinout for a Chinese Scale reader head

2022-05-10 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, 10 May 2022 04:56:40 EDT Mark wrote:
> On 5/9/22 05:38, andy pugh wrote:
> > In the application you describe I would rather expect the USB to act
> > as a battery replacement. Though USB is 5V and the reader heads use a
> > 1.5V battery, so this might be a dangerous assumption.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The scales can be powered through the data cable.  This would be
> > useful in many fixed installations.
> > 
> > However, they do not like 5V. I experimented and things went wrong
> > (no
> > smoke, but all LCD elements turned on) at 2.1V.
> > 
> > So, don't plug the USB into a USB socket without doing some careful
> > tests with a current-limited variable power supply first.
> > 
> > This probably isn't relevant to this query, but there are
> > 3D-printable
> > connector designs: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2477494 as an
> > example.
> > 
> > In a bit of a coincidence, CTC just spammed me with an email
> > informing
> > me that they have 50% off digital scales, code DS2022
> > 
> > https://www.ctctools.biz/digital-scales-dro/
> 
> No worries.  The DRO puts out 1.5VDC through the Vpos and Vneg lines. 
> I'm not plugging the scale into a PC or anything like that.  The scale
> is plugged into the DRO-350.  All I'm trying to do is cobble a cable to
> go from the DRO to new scale which has the mini USB connector on it
> rather than the old four strip connector in it.  I'm figuring the mini
> USB will probably be a much better connection than the old one could
> ever be.
> 
> Mark
 
Thats debatable Mark. I have an older Nikon D-100 Coolpix camera with one 
of the many variations of the mini-usb socket, and discovered quite early 
in its history that If I wanted to get pix out of it with digikam, that 
it had to be standing on the face of its lens with the data cable hanging 
straight down off the edge of the desktop if I wanted a connection.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
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 - Louis D. Brandeis





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Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: A bit OT: Looking for pinout for a Chinese Scale reader head

2022-05-10 Thread Mark

On 5/9/22 05:38, andy pugh wrote:

In the application you describe I would rather expect the USB to act
as a battery replacement. Though USB is 5V and the reader heads use a
1.5V battery, so this might be a dangerous assumption.



The scales can be powered through the data cable.  This would be
useful in many fixed installations.

However, they do not like 5V. I experimented and things went wrong (no
smoke, but all LCD elements turned on) at 2.1V.

So, don't plug the USB into a USB socket without doing some careful
tests with a current-limited variable power supply first.

This probably isn't relevant to this query, but there are 3D-printable
connector designs: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2477494 as an
example.

In a bit of a coincidence, CTC just spammed me with an email informing
me that they have 50% off digital scales, code DS2022

https://www.ctctools.biz/digital-scales-dro/


No worries.  The DRO puts out 1.5VDC through the Vpos and Vneg lines.  
I'm not plugging the scale into a PC or anything like that.  The scale 
is plugged into the DRO-350.  All I'm trying to do is cobble a cable to 
go from the DRO to new scale which has the mini USB connector on it 
rather than the old four strip connector in it.  I'm figuring the mini 
USB will probably be a much better connection than the old one could 
ever be.


Mark



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[Emc-users] Fwd: A bit OT: Looking for pinout for a Chinese Scale reader head

2022-05-09 Thread andy pugh
In the application you describe I would rather expect the USB to act
as a battery replacement. Though USB is 5V and the reader heads use a
1.5V battery, so this might be a dangerous assumption.



The scales can be powered through the data cable.  This would be
useful in many fixed installations.

However, they do not like 5V. I experimented and things went wrong (no
smoke, but all LCD elements turned on) at 2.1V.

So, don't plug the USB into a USB socket without doing some careful
tests with a current-limited variable power supply first.

This probably isn't relevant to this query, but there are 3D-printable
connector designs: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2477494 as an
example.

In a bit of a coincidence, CTC just spammed me with an email informing
me that they have 50% off digital scales, code DS2022

https://www.ctctools.biz/digital-scales-dro/

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