Re: [Emc-users] Heekscad question

2011-03-04 Thread Kyle Kerr
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:16 PM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
 On Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:14:12 pm Kyle Kerr did opine:

 Another option to look at/fool around with is Google sketchup. I am
 having no troubles running it in wine. There is even a plugin to
 output gcode called phlatboyz.

 Kyle

 That must be in a newer version than the last one I had installed, about a
 year ago, but its undo didn't, and I got tired of filling up my hard drive
 with workaround saves.  Has that been addressed?

 Thanks Kyle.

From what little experience I have had with it, everything seems to
function, but, it can be unstable at times. It saves regularly, so,
when you restart the program you are pretty much back to where you
were when it crashed. The instability is not limited to an issue with
running in wine either.

I hope that helps with your choice.

Kyle

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Re: [Emc-users] Heekscad question

2011-03-03 Thread Kyle Kerr
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:12 PM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
 On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 10:07:57 pm andy pugh did opine:

 On 1 March 2011 20:19, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  What I want is to mark all the dimensions on the printout so I don't
  have to pencil them in,

 Does Heekscad do 2D drawing? I am only really familiar with Alibre and
 Autodesk Inventor, but with those once you have the 3D model, you then
 go to a separate part of the software where you create 2D
 manufacturing drawings (potentially auto-dimensioned)

 Not sure, 2.5D maybe, I was making cubes viewed headon so they were
 rectangles.  But I was disappointed when I tried to print what I had built
 and got a blank sheet of paper instead.  But I believe its full 3d for the
 wire frames, you can wave them around in 3d space and see it all, like
 Lightwave on the amiga was 15 years ago.

Another option to look at/fool around with is Google sketchup. I am
having no troubles running it in wine. There is even a plugin to
output gcode called phlatboyz.

Kyle

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Re: [Emc-users] Heekscad question

2011-03-03 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:14:12 pm Kyle Kerr did opine:

 On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:12 PM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 10:07:57 pm andy pugh did opine:
  On 1 March 2011 20:19, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
   What I want is to mark all the dimensions on the printout so I
   don't have to pencil them in,
  
  Does Heekscad do 2D drawing? I am only really familiar with Alibre
  and Autodesk Inventor, but with those once you have the 3D model,
  you then go to a separate part of the software where you create 2D
  manufacturing drawings (potentially auto-dimensioned)
  
  Not sure, 2.5D maybe, I was making cubes viewed headon so they were
  rectangles. �But I was disappointed when I tried to print what I had
  built and got a blank sheet of paper instead. �But I believe its full
  3d for the wire frames, you can wave them around in 3d space and see
  it all, like Lightwave on the amiga was 15 years ago.
 
 Another option to look at/fool around with is Google sketchup. I am
 having no troubles running it in wine. There is even a plugin to
 output gcode called phlatboyz.
 
 Kyle

That must be in a newer version than the last one I had installed, about a 
year ago, but its undo didn't, and I got tired of filling up my hard drive 
with workaround saves.  Has that been addressed?

Thanks Kyle.

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[Emc-users] Heekscad question

2011-03-02 Thread gene heskett
Greetings everybody;

Fooling around (I think thats what some folks would call it :) with 
heekscad, I have some solids laid out as if I'm looking down at the top of 
a piece of furnitures corner post, depicting how the tenons are going to 
meet inside the leg.  3 questions for those more fam with heekscad than I 
obviously am.

1) How can I switch on a dimension mark that looks like this:
   |---1.45---|

2) And, force the dimension figure printed to be some arbitrary scale, like 
8 squares of the background grid = 1.00

What I want is to mark all the dimensions on the printout so I don't have 
to pencil them in, if I can...
3) print the result, I'm getting instant feeds of blank paper.

Am I missing a paid plugin or ???

I can of course take a snapshot of the screen and presumably print that, 
but sheesh, that seems like the hard way, and I may as well just plot the 
thing on 10x10 graph paper.

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Re: [Emc-users] Heekscad question

2011-03-02 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:19 PM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 Greetings everybody;

 Fooling around (I think thats what some folks would call it :) with
 heekscad, I have some solids laid out as if I'm looking down at the top of
 a piece of furnitures corner post, depicting how the tenons are going to
 meet inside the leg.  3 questions for those more fam with heekscad than I
 obviously am.

 1) How can I switch on a dimension mark that looks like this:
   |---1.45---|

 2) And, force the dimension figure printed to be some arbitrary scale, like
 8 squares of the background grid = 1.00

 What I want is to mark all the dimensions on the printout so I don't have
 to pencil them in, if I can...
 3) print the result, I'm getting instant feeds of blank paper.


Don't know about heekscad, but for 2D drawing that you might use for an
assembly, I'd use another free CAD program, Qcad. In Qcad you draw the
dimension like any other feature on the drawing, anchoring the first and
second point to the part features, and placing the label in freehand mode. I
like to put dimensions in their own separate drawing layer. As to the scale,
it's a general property of the particular drawing, together with the
measurement units, and the output format of the dimension numbers
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Re: [Emc-users] Heekscad question

2011-03-02 Thread andy pugh
On 1 March 2011 20:19, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 What I want is to mark all the dimensions on the printout so I don't have
 to pencil them in,

Does Heekscad do 2D drawing? I am only really familiar with Alibre and
Autodesk Inventor, but with those once you have the 3D model, you then
go to a separate part of the software where you create 2D
manufacturing drawings (potentially auto-dimensioned)

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Re: [Emc-users] Heekscad question

2011-03-02 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 09:42:07 pm Przemek Klosowski did opine:

 On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:19 PM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  Greetings everybody;
  
  Fooling around (I think thats what some folks would call it :) with
  heekscad, I have some solids laid out as if I'm looking down at the
  top of a piece of furnitures corner post, depicting how the tenons
  are going to meet inside the leg.  3 questions for those more fam
  with heekscad than I obviously am.
  
  1) How can I switch on a dimension mark that looks like this:
|---1.45---|
  
  2) And, force the dimension figure printed to be some arbitrary scale,
  like 8 squares of the background grid = 1.00
  
  What I want is to mark all the dimensions on the printout so I don't
  have to pencil them in, if I can...
  3) print the result, I'm getting instant feeds of blank paper.
 
 Don't know about heekscad, but for 2D drawing that you might use for an
 assembly, I'd use another free CAD program, Qcad. In Qcad you draw the
 dimension like any other feature on the drawing, anchoring the first and
 second point to the part features, and placing the label in freehand
 mode. I like to put dimensions in their own separate drawing layer. As
 to the scale, it's a general property of the particular drawing,
 together with the measurement units, and the output format of the
 dimension numbers

I wound up doing it more or less by the grid, without adding any 
dimensions, then ksnapshoted the screen and printed that, which I penciled 
in some dimensions, enough to mill 8 mortises in 2 legs  get one side 
frame cut and test assembled.  But that taught me 2 things, one, don't 
believe the chisel width as stated on the package, a 3/8 wide Stanley 
turned out to be about .435 wide!  Where I was raised, 3/8=.375, when 
did that change?

About 4 hours trying to trim it precisely but no way to grab that tapered 
shank in my milling vice so I had to grind and hone. PIMA

Two, change the blade on my table saw, its an ATB, and I found an ATBF 
wearing a CMT label that will go on it before I try to cut another tenon.

Next time I'll try Qcad, but I hope its UI has improved since the last time 
I needed a whole bottle of naproxin sodium by the time I'd restarted it 6 
or 7 times  never did get anything worth printing.  That was maybe 2 years 
back up the log, so hopefully its more stable now.  I just ran it for about 
10 minutes, trying to get the feel and it didn't crash or freeze, so there 
may be hope.

Thank you Przemek.

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Re: [Emc-users] Heekscad question

2011-03-02 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 10:07:57 pm andy pugh did opine:

 On 1 March 2011 20:19, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  What I want is to mark all the dimensions on the printout so I don't
  have to pencil them in,
 
 Does Heekscad do 2D drawing? I am only really familiar with Alibre and
 Autodesk Inventor, but with those once you have the 3D model, you then
 go to a separate part of the software where you create 2D
 manufacturing drawings (potentially auto-dimensioned)

Not sure, 2.5D maybe, I was making cubes viewed headon so they were 
rectangles.  But I was disappointed when I tried to print what I had built 
and got a blank sheet of paper instead.  But I believe its full 3d for the 
wire frames, you can wave them around in 3d space and see it all, like 
Lightwave on the amiga was 15 years ago.

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