Re: [Emc-users] Pico Sytems UPC and a Hardinge CHNC

2012-01-24 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote:

 but I used the paradigm of a switch closure at the time I did the
 installation, after giving it more thought and referring to:
 http://pico-systems.com/images/univstep.png 

 it looks as if the inputs already go to an opto-isolator on the UPC
 anyway. It may be that a resistor (and a general purpose diode for
 reverse voltage protection) in series would work just fine. Limiting the
 current to the opto LED is the primary issue. The UPC and turret encoder
 12V supply grounds would need to be tied together in order to close the
 circuit. The logic sense may need attention too.
   
Yes, that is what I'd recommend.  I think only the diode is needed, the 
resistor is already
provided in the UPC board.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Pico Sytems UPC and a Hardinge CHNC

2012-01-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 12:26 -0600, Jon Elson wrote:
 Kirk Wallace wrote:
 
  but I used the paradigm of a switch closure at the time I did the
  installation, after giving it more thought and referring to:
  http://pico-systems.com/images/univstep.png 
 
  it looks as if the inputs already go to an opto-isolator on the UPC
  anyway. It may be that a resistor (and a general purpose diode for
  reverse voltage protection) in series would work just fine. Limiting the
  current to the opto LED is the primary issue. The UPC and turret encoder
  12V supply grounds would need to be tied together in order to close the
  circuit. The logic sense may need attention too.

 Yes, that is what I'd recommend.  I think only the diode is needed, the 
 resistor is already
 provided in the UPC board.
 
 Jon

Just in case, my guess is that the internal resistor was sized for
current limiting 5 Volts, so the current would go up by around 120%
without an external resistor, which is okay?
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[Emc-users] Pico Sytems UPC and a Hardinge CHNC

2012-01-23 Thread Ed
Someone out there probably has worked this out. Hardinge uses home and 
limit switches and the turret encoder that use a pullup to 12 Volts. The 
UPC uses isolated 5 Volts for the input ports.

  The big question is how did you interface these? Current limited 
opto-isolators come to mind, small signal relays may work if they are 
fast enough. Any other ideas? Many thanks to any that can help.

Ed.


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Re: [Emc-users] Pico Sytems UPC and a Hardinge CHNC

2012-01-23 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 20:55 -0500, Ed wrote:
 Someone out there probably has worked this out. Hardinge uses home and 
 limit switches and the turret encoder that use a pullup to 12 Volts. The 
 UPC uses isolated 5 Volts for the input ports.
 
   The big question is how did you interface these? Current limited 
 opto-isolators come to mind, small signal relays may work if they are 
 fast enough. Any other ideas? Many thanks to any that can help.
 
 Ed.

I use opto-isolators:
http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/00013-1a.jpg 
http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/ 

but I used the paradigm of a switch closure at the time I did the
installation, after giving it more thought and referring to:
http://pico-systems.com/images/univstep.png 

it looks as if the inputs already go to an opto-isolator on the UPC
anyway. It may be that a resistor (and a general purpose diode for
reverse voltage protection) in series would work just fine. Limiting the
current to the opto LED is the primary issue. The UPC and turret encoder
12V supply grounds would need to be tied together in order to close the
circuit. The logic sense may need attention too.
-- 
Kirk Wallace
http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/
http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html
California, USA


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