Re: [Emc-users] The future of LinuxCNC mailing lists andbug tracking
While I am sure that you guys are more than capable of running the server outside of Sourceforge, what always concerns me in situations like this is the dependency on certain people to do certain things without a solid backup plan. If plan A is to have person X run and administer the server, what happens if person X becomes unavailable (let your imagination run wild. ) ? What is plan B? And where does that leave the server/s and all of the people who depend on it. As it is now - there is equal access to the webserver for all board members. That means each of us has the same powers to adjust things given the need. That access (involving ssh to the server) allows us to do things that aren't already available through standard tools: - for the webpage we do most administration through the web interface (the administrators who can do that are not limited to the board members, there are a couple more with the same access rights,) Very seldom there is a need to query/modify the database or hack on the code directly). We have devided our attention amongst different areas of services, but that doesn't mean if one goes away, that others couldn't fit the empty shoes. The same will be true for mailinglists and bugtracker. I have to answer this kind of question all of the time for my customers. (And some of them have zero tact, so I frequently get to reflect on my age and health.. ;-) ) And it's quite a pertinent question to ask. Hopefully I addressed your concearns. Regards, Alex I trust you guys will make a good decision. The adds don't bother me. But the possible vulnerabilities do. Thanks for asking for input. :-) Dave -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The future of LinuxCNC mailing lists andbug tracking
Thanks Alex for the clarifications.. We have devided our attention amongst different areas of services, but that doesn't mean if one goes away, that others couldn't fit the empty shoes. It sounds like you guys have contingency plans in place. Just an aside... but what is going on with Sourceforge? I just got on there and the adds are extreme! I thought they had adds before, but nothing like what I saw yesterday! It is really distracting. Dave On 2/22/2012 5:53 AM, Alex Joni wrote: While I am sure that you guys are more than capable of running the server outside of Sourceforge, what always concerns me in situations like this is the dependency on certain people to do certain things without a solid backup plan. If plan A is to have person X run and administer the server, what happens if person X becomes unavailable (let your imagination run wild. ) ? What is plan B? And where does that leave the server/s and all of the people who depend on it. As it is now - there is equal access to the webserver for all board members. That means each of us has the same powers to adjust things given the need. That access (involving ssh to the server) allows us to do things that aren't already available through standard tools: - for the webpage we do most administration through the web interface (the administrators who can do that are not limited to the board members, there are a couple more with the same access rights,) Very seldom there is a need to query/modify the database or hack on the code directly). We have devided our attention amongst different areas of services, but that doesn't mean if one goes away, that others couldn't fit the empty shoes. The same will be true for mailinglists and bugtracker. I have to answer this kind of question all of the time for my customers. (And some of them have zero tact, so I frequently get to reflect on my age and health.. ;-) ) And it's quite a pertinent question to ask. Hopefully I addressed your concearns. Regards, Alex I trust you guys will make a good decision. The adds don't bother me. But the possible vulnerabilities do. Thanks for asking for input. :-) Dave -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The future of LinuxCNC mailing lists andbug tracking
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: Thanks Alex for the clarifications.. We have devided our attention amongst different areas of services, but that doesn't mean if one goes away, that others couldn't fit the empty shoes. It sounds like you guys have contingency plans in place. Just an aside... but what is going on with Sourceforge? I just got on there and the adds are extreme! I thought they had adds before, but nothing like what I saw yesterday! It is really distracting. consider installing Adblock Plus in your Firefox and block doubleclick.net(and a few others) j. Dave On 2/22/2012 5:53 AM, Alex Joni wrote: While I am sure that you guys are more than capable of running the server outside of Sourceforge, what always concerns me in situations like this is the dependency on certain people to do certain things without a solid backup plan. If plan A is to have person X run and administer the server, what happens if person X becomes unavailable (let your imagination run wild. ) ? What is plan B? And where does that leave the server/s and all of the people who depend on it. As it is now - there is equal access to the webserver for all board members. That means each of us has the same powers to adjust things given the need. That access (involving ssh to the server) allows us to do things that aren't already available through standard tools: - for the webpage we do most administration through the web interface (the administrators who can do that are not limited to the board members, there are a couple more with the same access rights,) Very seldom there is a need to query/modify the database or hack on the code directly). We have devided our attention amongst different areas of services, but that doesn't mean if one goes away, that others couldn't fit the empty shoes. The same will be true for mailinglists and bugtracker. I have to answer this kind of question all of the time for my customers. (And some of them have zero tact, so I frequently get to reflect on my age and health.. ;-) ) And it's quite a pertinent question to ask. Hopefully I addressed your concearns. Regards, Alex I trust you guys will make a good decision. The adds don't bother me. But the possible vulnerabilities do. Thanks for asking for input. :-) Dave -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The future of LinuxCNC mailing lists andbug tracking
Gosh, I didn't realize that my ancient solution, Cookie Cop on Windows, was actually working so well. I never realized that SourceForge was loaded with ads until this discussion prompted me to turn it off temporarily. Steve Stallings -Original Message- snip I thought they had adds before, but nothing like what I saw yesterday! It is really distracting. consider installing Adblock Plus in your Firefox and block doubleclick.net(and a few others) j. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The future of LinuxCNC mailing lists andbug tracking
On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 09:42 -0500, Dave wrote: Thanks Alex for the clarifications.. We have devided our attention amongst different areas of services, but that doesn't mean if one goes away, that others couldn't fit the empty shoes. It sounds like you guys have contingency plans in place. Just an aside... but what is going on with Sourceforge? I just got on there and the adds are extreme! Now that the subject of organization is coming up, I've started to think more about some vague feelings that have bothered me for a while. In trying to resolve these thoughts, it came to mind, other than the obvious software bit, what is LinuxCNC? -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html California, USA -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] The future of LinuxCNC mailing lists andbug tracking
I have an extensive HOSTS file loaded into my main windows box but I got onto Sourceforge with a freshly loaded Ubuntu system and WOW! what have they done? I think they have sold their souls to Google adds or similar.That is sad. They should change their name to AddSource. :-( Dave On 2/22/2012 10:52 AM, Steve Stallings wrote: Gosh, I didn't realize that my ancient solution, Cookie Cop on Windows, was actually working so well. I never realized that SourceForge was loaded with ads until this discussion prompted me to turn it off temporarily. Steve Stallings -Original Message- snip I thought they had adds before, but nothing like what I saw yesterday! It is really distracting. consider installing Adblock Plus in your Firefox and block doubleclick.net(and a few others) j. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
