Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/9/2012 10:09 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: I just took my first sip, but it hasn't reached my brain yet.:( But the status report was on the Mrs, not this stuff. Well, to save folks from too much reality, let me speak in hyperbole. This is the worst holiday season of our 45 years of marriage. Regards, Kent Sorry to hear that Kent. Holidays are always the worst times for health issues to pop up. Mark -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.comwrote: Well, to save folks from too much reality, let me speak in hyperbole. This is the worst holiday season of our 45 years of marriage. You are a good man and I hope and pray for strength of body and soul for you and your family. Regards, przemek -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
Yea, there is nothing intuitive about man pages... either you know the magic names or your lost. On 12/8/2012 4:14 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 12/08/2012 02:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the various first word of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc. This may not be intuitive or obvious, but loadrt, net, and friends are all handled by a command called halcmd, which does have a manpage. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On 09.12.12 05:31, John Thornton wrote: Yea, there is nothing intuitive about man pages... either you know the magic names or your lost. Probably the easiest way to make that connection for the user is to add a one-line manpage for each of loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc, along the lines of .so filename, as described in man zsoelim. I don't have LinuxCNC manpages on this host, but can demonstrate with another manpage and a fictitious new one, fred. The manpage file for gawk is: $ man -w gawk /usr/share/man/man1/gawk.1.gz so to redirect the new one to it: # echo .so man1/gawk.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/fred.1 Now: $ man fred throws up the gawk manpage. I'm fast catching up with Gene apropos forgettery skills, so might just whack them in on the other host. (So long as I remember to do that.) And, yes, I have the mandb manpage database gumpf here¹ too: $ file /var/cache/man/index.db /var/cache/man/index.db: GNU dbm 1.x or ndbm database, little endian But man is clever enough to snuffle about if what you ask for isn't in there. Erik ¹ $ more /etc/issue Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS \n \l -- The Kyoto Protocol, drafted in 1997, aimed to reduce the world's greenhouse gas emissions by around five per cent from 1990 levels by the end of 2012. Instead, global greenhouse gases have risen around 58 per cent in that time. - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-08/troubled-un-climate-talks-spill-over/4416696 -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net wrote: Probably the easiest way to make that connection for the user is to add a one-line manpage for each of loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc, along the lines of .so filename, as described in man zsoelim. I don't have LinuxCNC manpages on this host, but can demonstrate with another manpage and a fictitious new one, fred. The manpage file for gawk is: $ man -w gawk /usr/share/man/man1/gawk.1.gz so to redirect the new one to it: # echo .so man1/gawk.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/fred.1 Now: $ man fred throws up the gawk manpage. I'm fast catching up with Gene apropos forgettery skills, so might just whack them in on the other host. (So long as I remember to do that.) And, yes, I have the mandb manpage database gumpf here¹ too: $ file /var/cache/man/index.db /var/cache/man/index.db: GNU dbm 1.x or ndbm database, little endian But man is clever enough to snuffle about if what you ask for isn't in there. Erik ¹ $ more /etc/issue Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS \n \l To save space on the system and not duplicate files, perhaps it would be easier to: ln -s man1/gawk /usr/share/man/man1/fred.1 Mark -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On 09.12.12 08:34, Mark Wendt wrote: On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: # echo .so man1/gawk.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/fred.1 ... To save space on the system and not duplicate files, perhaps it would be easier to: ln -s man1/gawk /usr/share/man/man1/fred.1 One out of 3, I suspect, if it is assumed to be easier. :-) Neither method duplicates files, so there is no saving to be had there. And the symbolic link creates a _larger_ file than the groff redirection (.so): $ ln -s /usr/share/man/man1/gawk.1.gz ~/fred $ ls -l ~/fred lrwxrwxrwx 1 erik erik 29 2012-12-10 00:44 /home/erik/fred \ - /usr/share/man/man1/gawk.1.gz $ ll /usr/share/man/man1/fred.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19 2012-12-09 23:54 /usr/share/man/man1/fred.1 The symlink is about 50% larger, so we're going backwards fast with this saving. ;-) Erik -- At the moment Greenland is rising in some places by three centimeters per year, but the speed is accelerating. If the whole icelayer disappears, Greenland will rise by about one kilometer. - My translation of a paragraph in http://jyllands-posten.dk/nyviden/article4775333.ece Noticed a few earthquakes in recent years? -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net wrote: One out of 3, I suspect, if it is assumed to be easier. :-) Neither method duplicates files, so there is no saving to be had there. And the symbolic link creates a _larger_ file than the groff redirection (.so): $ ln -s /usr/share/man/man1/gawk.1.gz ~/fred $ ls -l ~/fred lrwxrwxrwx 1 erik erik 29 2012-12-10 00:44 /home/erik/fred \ - /usr/share/man/man1/gawk.1.gz $ ll /usr/share/man/man1/fred.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19 2012-12-09 23:54 /usr/share/man/man1/fred.1 The symlink is about 50% larger, so we're going backwards fast with this saving. ;-) Erik Ah, never mind. I didn't look close enough at your command line. I thought you were just copying the .gz file to another location. That's what I get by firing up the fingers while there's still too much blood in my caffeine stream. ;-) Mark -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On Sunday 09 December 2012 09:17:01 Erik Christiansen did opine: On 09.12.12 05:31, John Thornton wrote: Yea, there is nothing intuitive about man pages... either you know the magic names or your lost. Probably the easiest way to make that connection for the user is to add a one-line manpage for each of loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc, along the lines of .so filename, as described in man zsoelim. Now that seems like a worthwhile project. I don't have LinuxCNC manpages on this host, but can demonstrate with another manpage and a fictitious new one, fred. The manpage file for gawk is: $ man -w gawk /usr/share/man/man1/gawk.1.gz so to redirect the new one to it: # echo .so man1/gawk.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/fred.1 Now: $ man fred throws up the gawk manpage. I'm fast catching up with Gene apropos forgettery skills, so might just whack them in on the other host. (So long as I remember to do that.) I swear, its contagious, Erik. And, yes, I have the mandb manpage database gumpf hereآ¹ too: $ file /var/cache/man/index.db /var/cache/man/index.db: GNU dbm 1.x or ndbm database, little endian But man is clever enough to snuffle about if what you ask for isn't in there. Erik آ¹ $ more /etc/issue Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS \n \l Thanks Erik. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! The best thing about being bald is, that, when unexpected company arrives, all you have to do is straighten your tie. I was taught to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder to find any... -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On 09.12.12 09:14, Mark Wendt wrote: Ah, never mind. I didn't look close enough at your command line. I thought you were just copying the .gz file to another location. The nub of it is described (well, referenced in passing) in man zsoelim. The ability of manpages to source other files is provided there. The nuances are mostly implicit in the command line, but were described in the text of the post. That's what I get by firing up the fingers while there's still too much blood in my caffeine stream. ;-) :-) Erik -- Why manure crops grown for animal feed? Global food prices are soaring, and animal feed is no exception. Maggot cake could provide a high-protein food source for farm animals that is not only readily available, but recaptures nutrients in manure and other waste far more efficiently than existing methods. - http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21628923.600-extreme-recycling-turns-poo-into-food.html -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On 12/9/2012 6:31 AM, John Thornton wrote: Yea, there is nothing intuitive about man pages... either you know the magic names or your lost. Well, if you more or less know the subject, apropos usually helps. (But often gives too many false positives.) Ken On 12/8/2012 4:14 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: On 12/08/2012 02:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the various first word of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc. This may not be intuitive or obvious, but loadrt, net, and friends are all handled by a command called halcmd, which does have a manpage. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On 12/9/2012 9:14 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: That's what I get by firing up the fingers while there's still too much blood in my caffeine stream.;-) Different strokes for different folks. I'm old enough to need the caffeine just to make my fingers work. Some question whether it's making my brain work too. Regards, Kent -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/9/2012 9:14 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: That's what I get by firing up the fingers while there's still too much blood in my caffeine stream.;-) Different strokes for different folks. I'm old enough to need the caffeine just to make my fingers work. Some question whether it's making my brain work too. Regards, Kent The fingers flying, in my case, seem to be involuntary muscle movement, since the brain was obviously not functioning when I typed my reply to Eric. ;-) Mark -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On Sunday 09 December 2012 10:06:49 Kent A. Reed did opine: On 12/9/2012 9:14 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: That's what I get by firing up the fingers while there's still too much blood in my caffeine stream.;-) Different strokes for different folks. I'm old enough to need the caffeine just to make my fingers work. Some question whether it's making my brain work too. Regards, Kent I just took my first sip, but it hasn't reached my brain yet. :( But the status report was on the Mrs, not this stuff. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! Be it our wealth, our jobs, or even our homes; nothing is safe while the legislature is in session. I was taught to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder to find any... -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On 12/9/2012 10:09 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: I just took my first sip, but it hasn't reached my brain yet.:( But the status report was on the Mrs, not this stuff. Well, to save folks from too much reality, let me speak in hyperbole. This is the worst holiday season of our 45 years of marriage. Regards, Kent -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On Sunday 09 December 2012 19:41:08 Kent A. Reed did opine: On 12/9/2012 10:09 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: I just took my first sip, but it hasn't reached my brain yet.:( But the status report was on the Mrs, not this stuff. Well, to save folks from too much reality, let me speak in hyperbole. This is the worst holiday season of our 45 years of marriage. Regards, Kent Ouch, my sympathies, Kent. I believe your situation is far worse than mine was when my Annie died in late June '68. We had no warning that anything was amiss until the x-rays on the light panel gave us the death in 48 hours sentence. At that point I locked up and went into autopilot, doing what was expected, and today, 45 years later it all seems like a bad dream that just happened to be real. Worse yet, we buried her on our oldest child's 9th birthday. I thought I was protecting the kids, 6, 8 9 at the time, by not taking them to the hospital so they could see her, or to the funeral but to this day they've held that against me. I tried to have a birthday party, cake ice cream, the whole mary ann later that afternoon for Barbara, but it was the saddest birthday party ever, for all of us. Reality, when it set in as the rest of her family was clearing out, was a cast iron bitch. You it seems, are waiting for the other shoe to drop, and have to keep busy at something else to keep your sanity. So keeping busy is the best advice I can offer from my now ancient nearly worn out perch. I am doing it too, watching Dee's COPD slowly get worse. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! I am firm. You are obstinate. He is a pig-headed fool. -- Katharine Whitehorn I was taught to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder to find any... -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
Greetings; Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! You will attract cultured and artistic people to your home. I was taught to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder to find any... -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? hal by itself is not a command you would execute from the terminal. man hal otoh gives a general description of hal. so this is roughly OK I would say. halscope would be an example of a command that doesn't have a man-page afaik. AW -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On Saturday 08 December 2012 16:11:14 Anders Wallin did opine: Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? hal by itself is not a command you would execute from the terminal. man hal otoh gives a general description of hal. On your machines, but not on mine, and I do have the docs package installed. Example: gene@lathe:~/linuxcnc/configs/my-lathe$ man hal No manual entry for hal so this is roughly OK I would say. halscope would be an example of a command that doesn't have a man-page afaik. That in essence doesn't need much of a man page, its pretty intuitive. What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the various first word of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc. My machines have no such help file, so I have to go find the loose leaf binder that has what probably is dated content since I have not printed it in at least a year, and look it up. But then I only have perhaps 3 or 4 copies laying around, but which is the most recent? The title page may give the document version, but doesn't say clearly what version of linuxcnc it applies to. This at some point, needs to be gotten on the same page so I know when its time to walk over to the trash can and clean out that particular 3 ring binder. I guess I'm in rant mode today, but such roadblocks that disturb ones train of thought really do need a bit of demolition. ;-) Thanks Anders. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! The bigger the theory the better. I was taught to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder to find any... -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On 12/8/2012 4:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 08 December 2012 16:11:14 Anders Wallin did opine: Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? hal by itself is not a command you would execute from the terminal. man hal otoh gives a general description of hal. On your machines, but not on mine, and I do have the docs package installed. Example: gene@lathe:~/linuxcnc/configs/my-lathe$ man hal No manual entry for hal Be specific to be terrific! What revs of LinuxCNC are you two running? You may just be seeing differences in the docs included in some released version vs those in the master branch, for example. Regards, Kent -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On Saturday 08 December 2012 17:00:37 Kent A. Reed did opine: On 12/8/2012 4:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 08 December 2012 16:11:14 Anders Wallin did opine: Is this an oversight, or just considered as too big for a man page? hal by itself is not a command you would execute from the terminal. man hal otoh gives a general description of hal. On your machines, but not on mine, and I do have the docs package installed. Example: gene@lathe:~/linuxcnc/configs/my-lathe$ man hal No manual entry for hal Be specific to be terrific! What revs of LinuxCNC are you two running? 2.5.1-132+somehash number Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! You will be advanced socially, without any special effort on your part. I was taught to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder to find any... -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On 12/08/2012 02:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the various first word of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc. This may not be intuitive or obvious, but loadrt, net, and friends are all handled by a command called halcmd, which does have a manpage. -- Sebastian Kuzminsky -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On Saturday 08 December 2012 18:04:26 Sebastian Kuzminsky did opine: On 12/08/2012 02:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the various first word of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc. This may not be intuitive or obvious, 40 rogers on that! but loadrt, net, and friends are all handled by a command called halcmd, which does have a manpage. That is pretty much what I was looking for, Thanks Sebastion. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! They ought to make butt-flavored cat food. --Gallagher I was taught to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder to find any... -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On 8 December 2012 21:25, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the various first word of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc. man halcmd. OK, so you actually have to be psychic to guess that. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] missing man 9 hal
On Saturday 08 December 2012 18:47:46 andy pugh did opine: On 8 December 2012 21:25, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: What we need is a short man page that describes the syntax of the various first word of a line settings, loadrt, addf, setp, net, etc. man halcmd. OK, so you actually have to be psychic to guess that. Chuckle a VBG, Andy. I have in the past, been accused of similar attributes, like walking on water, and possibly psychic by those who will never have anything apart and spread all over the bench, but that was because I could do that stuff by rote, almost in my sleep having already done it many times. Familiarity with some of that stuff leads to wonderment if someone watching has never seen it before, when I reach over and pull a part out and warm up the iron while taking the last few screws out of a pcb cover, just because I already know to a 95% certainty, what part I am going to change before the pcb has been pulled put in a work holder on the bench. Camera lenses are a mystery to most, but I hired an assistant, quite a few years back to do some of the repetitive PM tasks, and as I was re-assembling a damaged lens from a news camera, he asked me how I could sit so low in that chair I replied huh? and he said how can you sit that low with cajones as obviously big as I had to have to do something like that. To me it was a shrug, having done it dozens of times before. But it does feel nice to be able to impress the frogs so easily. ;-) I have had a voltmeter probe in one hand since '47, a scope probe largely replaced it in '51, and a hot soldering tool in the other since late '47, but now the short term memory is going to hell in a hand basket. So I have to print this stuff if I want to re-study it tomorrow while standing in my shop in front of the machine in 40F weather. Sad state of affairs to me, and I thank all of you for tolerating it. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! Keep emotionally active. Cater to your favorite neurosis. I was taught to respect my elders, but its getting harder and harder to find any... -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
